Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

[A6_Foul_Out]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

The best OV IMO, to be rated higher than that a player would need to be in the top ten in basically every statistical measurement on both offense and defense in the league for that year. To get a 99 you would need to be in the top three.

It is also important to take that information into context. ie. Contested Rebounds vs. Uncontested rebounds etc.

[E The Rhymer]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

LeBron and MJ are better and more complete players imo.

Kobe and Kareem aren't complete players to you?

[Gosens6]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

Kobe and Kareem aren't complete players to you?

I'm assuming he's going to go with the ol passing and defense, defense

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[Mbunn1993]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

I'm assuming he's going to go with the ol passing and defense, defense

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Anyone who says Kobe wasn't a great defender or passer doesn't know what they're talking about. The dude only made like 12 all NBA defensive teams, 9 of them first team. And averaged 4.7 APG for his career, a whopping .6 less then MJ

[SpeedyClaxton]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

Athletically he had strength, speed, leaping ability, explosion, and durability.

Kobe in his prime was athletic and had leaping ability like few of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYiHvMuYJ44

Right here on this dunk you can see flashes of MJ and how he copied his movement and especially in-air.

[slimdagreat]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

I always looked at the ratings as a comparative tool. The 99 rating means you are the best in that category in the league.


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[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

99 doesn't mean a complete player to me. For instance, Tom Brady should be a 99 in Madden. Does that mean he's a complete QB with mobile ability?

Barry Bonds should be considered a 99 during his historic Giants years. Was he a good defender? Not when he ballooned.

[SpeedyClaxton]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

It just don't make logical sense because let's say game have 30 attributes for each player. So player X would need to have at least 75% of those ratings at 99 to be 99 OVR.

I can't really see a player that can be top rebounder, 3 point shooter, midrange, shooter, defender plus athletic and all that in one player, such player doesn't exist. As soon as player X have one flaw in his game he automatically can't be 99.

2K needs more strict ratings especially when it comes to OVR and better rating system for all attributes.

I'd say like this
40-55 for benchwarmers
55-65 for weaker role players
65-70 for average role players
70-75 for very productive role players (ala Crawford, Iggy and such)
75-85 for all star caliber players
85-90 for superstar players

I just can't see players above 95..doesn't make sense from sim perspective at all.

[GradyMac]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

Such a dumb post.

No please, let's not use context when analyzing stats. Anything but that!

I said he was third among point guards in RPG. The position you play is extremely relevant to how good you are in a facet of basketball. Dear Lord. I shouldn't even need type that out.

It isn't "context" it is "qualifying."

You can't give Curry a high rebounding rating because he is a good rebounder for his size. You have to compare him to ALL players without qualification.

[Mauer4MVP]

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It isn't "context" it is "qualifying."

You can't give Curry a high rebounding rating because he is a good rebounder for his size. You have to compare him to ALL players without qualification.

No it is context. I never said give him a high rebounding so you're putting words in my mouth.

All I was stating is that for the point guard position and his size, he's actually a good rebounder.

Perfect example, do you think people would say Wiggins is such an awful defender if he were 6'1 and played pg instead of having insane athleticism, good height, and playing SF? No.

You're putting words into my posts that just aren't there. Do I think he should have a solid rebounding rating? Yes, but not a great one. We were past the point of discussing ratings a long time ago. We were discussing Curry's perceived lack of being well-rounded.

[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

It just don't make logical sense because let's say game have 30 attributes for each player. So player X would need to have at least 75% of those ratings at 99 to be 99 OVR.

I can't really see a player that can be top rebounder, 3 point shooter, midrange, shooter, defender plus athletic and all that in one player, such player doesn't exist. As soon as player X have one flaw in his game he automatically can't be 99.

2K needs more strict ratings especially when it comes to OVR and better rating system for all attributes.

I'd say like this
40-55 for benchwarmers
55-65 for weaker role players
65-70 for average role players
70-75 for very productive role players (ala Crawford, Iggy and such)
75-85 for all star caliber players
85-90 for superstar players

I just can't see players above 95..doesn't make sense from sim perspective at all.

Those are just numbers. What is truly is important is the value 2k actually gives to those ratings (e.g. does 99 3pt mean Curry makes 99% of his threes? And what is the difference between 99 and 90?).

If that makes sense.

[GradyMac]

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No it is context. I never said give him a high rebounding so you're putting words in my mouth.

All I was stating is that for the point guard position and his size, he's actually a good rebounder.

Perfect example, do you think people would say Wiggins is such an awful defender if he were 6'1 and played pg instead of having insane athleticism, good height, and playing SF? No.

You're putting words into my posts that just aren't there. Do I think he should have a solid rebounding rating? Yes, but not a great one. We were past the point of discussing ratings a long time ago. We were discussing Curry's perceived lack of being well-rounded.

Curry is not a good rebounder; unless you qualify it, period.

"Well rounded?" so you are in a "should curry be higher than a 99" thread arguing that the TWO time MVP is "well rounded." God what a waste of time.

I am done.

[GisherJohn24]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

They should do overall defense and offense separate. Because of Currys shooting, he should be about a 110 rating for offense and a 85-90 for defense.

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[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

Curry is not a good rebounder; unless you qualify it, period.

"Well rounded?" so you are in a "should curry be higher than a 99" thread arguing that the TWO time MVP is "well rounded." God what a waste of time.

I am done.

LOL. Thank goodness. Sorry you weren't able to comprehend the posts in this thread.

[PhiPsi1]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

In all honesty....If the dev team could just get 'virtual' Steph to play even remotely like 'real-life' Steph....then all would be right with this world.