Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

[SuperSeahawks]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

Well if MJ isn't above a 99 overall, I don't see why Curry should be IMO.

[SpeedyClaxton]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater than an 99 Overall Rating?

Definitely something to consider but he'd likely be fine. Most of his scoring comes from outside the paint and hand-checking was really to impede progress to the basket. That's still a part of his game, but he'd probably just get more screens or shots off-ball.

Also, people like to think that things weren't called fouls back in the day but Jordan did average over 10 free throw attempts in his back to back 35 ppg plus seasons.

I can tell you that at least 1 of those 10 averaged fouls back then would be straight flagrant nowadays, refs just don't allow physical game and players with nimble movement just use that to score more, like Harden. Game just became too soft overall, no real rivalries, no real trashtalk everything is just too friendly. Missing old rivalries that were borderline hate & aggresive.

PS: You know league became too soft when Villanueva commenting on Westbrook & Payne was considered 'trash talk' lol.

[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

Couldn't you also argue that hand checking helped Jordan be a great defender? And sure that may be true. I guess I'm just saying I doubt Jordan would average many more free throw attempts.

Also, let's not pretend there weren't rules that benefitted Jordan. He was great in post ups and in that era, rules made it tough to defend the catch. It was either completely double team or let them go one on one.

[jfsolo]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

I thought OS was above "click bait" pieces. This just isn't an intellectually honest question, it's totally farcical.

[dxyyz1]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater than an 99 Overall Rating?

I don't know how you can argue his season was better when Jordan won MVP and DPOY, something only Hakeem has also done. Obviously this debate is going nowhere. Curry is God-like on offense but he's average on defense. End of discussion.

Im sure if DPOY existed before 1982 im sure there would be more than just Hakeem and Jordan. DPOY shouldnt be used comparing season it just handicaps anyone who played before the 80s.

[iloveosalot]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater than an 99 Overall Rating?

No you're right. There are so many people that have average 30 a game with a TS% over .660 or a 50/45/90 slash line with good defense and 5 rebounds, 6.7 assists, and 2 steals per game.



Oh wait, it's just Steph Curry.

Jordan averaged 37ppg one year and was not a dominating outside threat. He drove and finished over, around, and through people constantly in a league with much bigger and stronger defenders than curry has.

That's a much bigger accomplishment and also he has 6 rings and steph has 1.

[BA2929]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater than an 99 Overall Rating?

Not at all. He's a legendary player, future HOFer and probably the best player in the league right now. But if 2K is sticking to it's policy of ratings, Curry is not in the conversation of thee best player of all time. Sorry.

He's the best shooter of all time and it isn't even close.

In a lot of basketball circles, that puts him in the running for best player of all time.

[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater than an 99 Overall Rating?

Jordan averaged 37ppg one year and was not a dominating outside threat. He drove and finished over, around, and through people constantly in a league with much bigger and stronger defenders than curry has.

That's a much bigger accomplishment and also he has 6 rings and steph has 1.

We'll you're talking about career. We're talking about at their peak. Two completely different things.

And yeah Jordan was a great scorer. Curry is still a much more efficient player in terms of scoring (which should blow Jordan supporters' minds considering how efficient he was).

And again, I can't emphasize how pointless saying Jordan didn't shoot threes is. Does that make it more impressive in in a way? Sure. I'd you want to think so. But Curry shooting so many and making so many threes is a much better thing. You really. Any even argue that. 45 3pt% is 1.35 points per attempt. 51% 2pt is 1.02

[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

I'm not even arguing that Curry should be greater than 99 so I sincerely apologize for steering the point of the thread in the wrong discussion.

But people that laugh at the notion that Curry right now is as good as peak Jordan, Wilt, or Bird or any other legend really need to do some studying. It's a fact that he had one of the best season ever.

I think he should be a 99 along with Jordan.

[RyanFitzmagic]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater than an 99 Overall Rating?

We'll you're talking about career. We're talking about at their peak. Two completely different things.

EXACTLY.

People are really up in arms but have no idea what they're talking about.

Curry just had one of the best seasons ever. It's reflected in the 400 threes he made, his ridiculously high 66% true shooting while averaging 30, and his team winning 73 games. He's at a level no player has ever unarguably exceeded. 99 overall is fine, but these arguments are pointless anyway.

I thought Sim Nation was supposed to be about realism? Well then who gives a **** about the numerical ratings as long as the players perform to their ability?

[SpeedyClaxton]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

GS are just fine without Curry, as it have been seen during Playoffs. Trailblazers beaten them in regular season when Curry was healthy so it's not valid to say they are much weaker team without him, with this being said...

Imagine Bulls without Jordan tho ^^ best case scenario they would win 1 championship and that's big maybe because of strong Jazz, Houston and other teams.

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

They need a "shooting range" tendency or attribute...whichever you want to do. They need to have a cap for some position types "power post players" or "slashers"...and then for Curry his needs to be unlimited.

[jcmreds]

If prime MJ played in today's soft *** NBA he would average 45 and shoot 60%.

[RyanFitzmagic]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

They need a "shooting range" tendency or attribute...whichever you want to do.

No, they don't. They have the Limitless Range badge for that.

This is what people don't get. OVERALL RATING ISN'T THE ONLY INDICATOR OF HOW GOOD A PLAYER IS.

Player A: 98 overall, 50 badges
Player B: 99 overall, 20 badges

Player A is OBVIOUSLY better.

[Mauer4MVP]

Re: Does Steph Curry Justify Greater Than an 99 Overall Rating?

If prime MJ played in today's soft *** NBA he would average 45 and shoot 60%.

You have literally no evidence to support this claim.