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  • MontanaMan
    MVP
    • Oct 2014
    • 1160

    #16
    Re: No more random animation dice rolls plz...

    Originally posted by DakkoN
    Press left on the shot stick (or towards the off ball hand if your dunk hand is set to either).. I've been blocked from behind maybe once with those dunks.. It's when I try to get flashy and press right or down, or use square, that gets blocked.

    Take an hour and go through your dunk packages individually and cut out ones with unfavorable animations.. When I get blocked now it's my own fault.
    This helps, but it still happens for me.

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    • Dirt DiverX
      Rookie
      • Jan 2004
      • 203

      #17
      Re: No more random animation dice rolls plz...

      I have switched almost strictly to Pro Am after getting sick of the HoF nonsense. I know in Pro Am there have been times when my player would go for a block or run on his own with no input from me. The animation system in 2k definitely needs work. The dude who initially posted nailed it, there are times where the game simply will not let you score- blown dunks, blown layups, release on the line all missing. It's frustrating and wouldn't be tolerated in say FIFA and would certainly be ripped apart if it happened in Madden.

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      • Rashad19
        Pro
        • May 2008
        • 525

        #18
        Re: No more random animation dice rolls plz...

        I'm totally on the opposite end of the original posters argument here. I love the random animations and various sequences of gameplay 2K offers right now. After playing this game for almost a year I'm still seeing different animations and scenarios play out. To me this keeps the game from being stale and makes me think through various scenarios to avoid unfavorable potential outcomes.

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        • CujoMatty
          Member of Rush Nation
          • Oct 2007
          • 5444

          #19
          Re: No more random animation dice rolls plz...

          Originally posted by Rashad19
          I'm totally on the opposite end of the original posters argument here. I love the random animations and various sequences of gameplay 2K offers right now. After playing this game for almost a year I'm still seeing different animations and scenarios play out. To me this keeps the game from being stale and makes me think through various scenarios to avoid unfavorable potential outcomes.
          I agree the sheer number of animations and different outcomes are impressive but I'm with the OP in the fact that I've never played a game that disregards human input as much as the 2k series. Numerous times every game the computer either chooses an inappropriate animation or even worse doesn't do anything. The latter drives me nuts and happens every game. I don't know how many 24 second or 3 second violations I've gotten because I'm hammering on my controller and nothing happens. Love the game but it does need work in this area.
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          • psydefx
            Banned
            • Oct 2015
            • 370

            #20
            Re: No more random animation dice rolls plz...

            Originally posted by Rashad19
            I'm totally on the opposite end of the original posters argument here. I love the random animations and various sequences of gameplay 2K offers right now. After playing this game for almost a year I'm still seeing different animations and scenarios play out. To me this keeps the game from being stale and makes me think through various scenarios to avoid unfavorable potential outcomes.
            you're not getting it. animations should fundamentally fit the given situation. today my player did a double clutch layup with no one within three feet of him and almost missed.

            this game needs a big time fundamental tune-up.

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            • ILLSmak
              MVP
              • Sep 2008
              • 2397

              #21
              Re: No more random animation dice rolls plz...

              Originally posted by CM Hooe
              If you get rid of randomness in a sports game, you must also assume at least one of the following:
              I think his mistake might have been saying random and dice rolls. To me, that's not what he meant. Maybe he did, but what I understood was that he is saying get rid of the fact that certain animations are more powerful than others and triggering them is the key to winning.

              His belief that you can't choose which animation you get, to me, is untrue in most cases. You can choose it enough to win. However, getting the animation by going out of your way to get the animation opposed to actually playing bball... is a different story.

              TBH, I'd love to see the buttons used more once the actual animation starts. I know that sounds v weird and like a few really strange games in history where you have to input button strings to succeed.

              However, the stick in 2k is super ambiguous. Plus, you never really know. It could just be like well maybe I wasn't doing what I should have been on the stick. Where as, if it was like press square then circle after starting your step animation if you want to do a double clutch reverse lay up, it would be much better.

              Then we get into the issue where, again, 2k doesn't have a step branch animation. Their animations are start to finish, so you just gotta hope you were standing in the right spot and holding the stick in the right direction when you tried to do whatever you wanted.

              I don't use non-icon pass very often, either (again buttons!), and it's because of how unreliable the stick is. I have 2k conspiracy theories that they def DO keep the games close on purpose on higher difficulties and I've seen enough 2k to know when a crazy 3 is gonna drop if I don't block it, just by the way it unfolds, but I mean, the ball going where you don't want it to in directional passing is due to the stick and probably some input lag or input recognition.

              Just my 2c.

              -Smak

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              • apollooff320
                Banned
                • Oct 2007
                • 1456

                #22
                Re: No more random animation dice rolls plz...

                Would love to have full control of what I'm doing while dribbling like past games. This year you do a cross over and end up doing a behind the back dribble. Each year we are losing more and more control of the game because of the animations. When I pump fake with my man he he get his man up in the air I want to run around him and dunk the ball....but 2K makes me jump into him to draw a foul. I don't want to be at the foul line when it's a horrible FT shooter.

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                • Rashad19
                  Pro
                  • May 2008
                  • 525

                  #23
                  Re: No more random animation dice rolls plz...

                  Originally posted by CujoMatty
                  I agree the sheer number of animations and different outcomes are impressive but I'm with the OP in the fact that I've never played a game that disregards human input as much as the 2k series. Numerous times every game the computer either chooses an inappropriate animation or even worse doesn't do anything. The latter drives me nuts and happens every game. I don't know how many 24 second or 3 second violations I've gotten because I'm hammering on my controller and nothing happens. Love the game but it does need work in this area.


                  Understood. The delayed responses to input controls is frustrating at times. I guess I've learned to adjust my game to help make it less maddening to me. With the main adjustment being slowing down my game a bit to let those animations play out and give me the outcome I like or in some instances don't like. To me if gives the game life and a different feel. For others it leaves them feeling out of control and frustrated so I get it. I guess in the end I honestly just enjoy my 2K16 sim experience so some of the warts of the game don't annoy me as much.

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