Where the heck is the mid-range game in 2k16?

[Trackball]

Re: Where the heck is the mid-range game in 2k16?

Give it up, the Warriors 73 win season was a waste

Better luck next year!

I'm not a Warriors fan. I'm giving credit where credit is due. 73.

Are you saying the regular season doesn't matter? Then why have it at all?

(the mods are going to put the hammer down soon, I just know it)

[acetheredcomet]

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I play the 4 and 5 position a lot with my buddies online and it is terrible when they diminish the role that the mid range played. yes it is technically the most ineffective shot between the layup and the 3, but it has a role.


3 pro am game straight I hit all of my open mid range shots, last game I played, I missed 4 straight except for my single 3 and few dunks. I can understand missing my contested shots but an open mid range? tell that to Dirk, Melo, LA, or KD.

[Roger_Black]

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I'm not a Warriors fan. I'm giving credit where credit is due. 73.

Are you saying the regular season doesn't matter? Then why have it at all?

(the mods are going to put the hammer down soon, I just know it)

No. Pretty sure he's saying that BRAGGING about winning 73 games by shooting nothing but layups & 3-pointers... while losing the NBA Title (in spectacular fashion) to a team that took more sensible, midrange shots.... is a SURE FIRE WAY of becoming a record-breaking 'laughing stock' that will be remembered more as a 'punchline'....... than for the 73 wins.

Midrange shooting is still important to the game.

The 'Elite' teams might ignore it...
But the 'Champion' teams embrace it.

For some, that's the whole difference between just being 'Elite'.... and being a 'Champion'.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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From my experience I hit more success hitting pull up threes than pull up midrange . Close range shots (freethrow line and under) fall at the highest rate though even contested.

[Mauer4MVP]

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No. Pretty sure he's saying that BRAGGING about winning 73 games by shooting nothing but layups & 3-pointers... while losing the NBA Title (in spectacular fashion) to a team that took more sensible, midrange shots.... is a SURE FIRE WAY of becoming a record-breaking 'laughing stock' that will be remembered more as a 'punchline'....... than for the 73 wins.

Midrange shooting is still important to the game.

The 'Elite' teams might ignore it...
But the 'Champion' teams embrace it.

And therein lies the difference between just being 'Elite'.... and being a 'Champion'.

That'd be valid if the Warriors didn't win the championship in 2015. Or the Spurs in 2014 with their elite 3 point shooting over another mid-range shooting team.

[Roger_Black]

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That'd be valid if the Warriors didn't win the championship in 2015. Or the Spurs in 2014 with their elite 3 point shooting over another mid-range shooting team.

Didn't the VERY SAME Spurs team lose the Championship to the (midrange shooting) Miami Heat just a year earlier in 2013??

Anyways, the Spurs are not a good team to use to support your position because..... they are led by Tim Duncan.... whose whole game is HOF worthy 'midrange excellence'. He's arguably the best midrange / bankshot artist the league has ever seen.

Some of us try not ignore the last 40-50 years of NBA titles just because the Warriors won 1 single championship.

The midrange game (in general) is still very important.

The teams who choose to ignore it.... usually end up losing to the teams that do not ignore it.

[Mauer4MVP]

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Didn't the VERY SAME Spurs team lose the Championship to the (midrange shooting) Miami Heat just a year earlier in 2013??

Anyways, the Spurs are not a good team to use for you analogy because they are led by Tim Duncan.... whose whole game is HOF worthy 'midrange excellence'.

Some of us try not ignore the last 40-50 years of NBA titles just because the Warriors won 1 single championship.

Actually that 2012-2013 Heat team was the second best 3 point shooting team that year lol. In 2013-2014 they fell to 12th.

The 2013-2014 Spurs were not led by Tim Duncan. I'm sorry if you think that.

And no we shouldn't ignore the last 40-50 years. But teams are finally realizing the value in the 3 point shot (which is just mind-boggling that it took this long 3>2).

[daveberg]

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I'm an old head so pretty much live for the mid range game.

Absolutely money with MJ.

In fact, i have more trouble getting 3's to drop than hitting mid range.

Currently in the playoffs with the 98 Bulls and can't hit squat with Kerr from the outside - all good looks. Just hitting Jordan on the triangle and getting him to sink mid range pull ups or his classic fadeaway jumpers.

Mid range isn't dead so long as you find the right guys for the job.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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I'm an old head so pretty much live for the mid range game.

Absolutely money with MJ.

In fact, i have more trouble getting 3's to drop than hitting mid range.

Currently in the playoffs with the 98 Bulls and can't hit squat with Kerr from the outside - all good looks. Just hitting Jordan on the triangle and getting him to sink mid range pull ups or his classic fadeaway jumpers.

Mid range isn't dead so long as you find the right guys for the job.

I think MJ's midrange is much higher than his three.

[Roger_Black]

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Actually that 2012-2013 Heat team was the second best 3 point shooting team that year lol. In 2013-2014 they fell to 12th.

The 2013-2014 Spurs were not led by Tim Duncan. I'm sorry if you think that.

And no we shouldn't ignore the last 40-50 years. But teams are finally realizing the value in the 3 point shot (which is just mind-boggling that it took this long 3>2).

Tim Duncan LED the Spurs in SCORING during the 2013 Finals when they lost to Miami. (18.3 ppg)

And Danny Green had set the record (26) for most 3-point field goals MADE in the same NBA Finals series, when they lost to Miami.

Not sure what you are saying.

If you think the (1st ballot) Hall of Famer (Tim Duncan) who leads his team in scoring during the 2013 NBA Finals... WAS NOT... the 'leader of the Spurs'.... but some OTHER guy was (who might not even make it to the Hall of Fame) OVER Tim Duncan... then we can stop this convo right here.

I won't waste any more time on nonsense.

[Mauer4MVP]

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Tim Duncan LED the Spurs in SCORING during the 2013 Finals when they lost to Miami. (18.3 ppg)

And Danny Green had set the record (26) for most 3-point field goals MADE in the same NBA Finals series, when they lost to Miami.

Not sure what you are saying.

If you think the (1st ballot) Hall of Famer (Tim Duncan) who leads his team in scoring during the 2013 NBA Finals... WAS NOT... the 'leader of the Spurs'.... but some OTHER guy was (who might not even make it to the Hall of Fame) OVER Tim Duncan... then we can stop this convo right here.

I won't waste any more time on nonsense.

That's fine that he led them in scoring. The Spurs were a collection of talent by then without one true star leading the way. He had a great series no doubt, but Leonard and Green did as well.

It's fine if you can't admit you're wrong. I'm done.

[daveberg]

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I think MJ's midrange is much higher than his three.

Standard, brother. Jordan's mid range is killer.

I don't take many three's with MJ - try to keep it as realistic as possible. Leave the treys to Kerr, Kukoc and Pip - though can't seem to hit the side of a barn with them at the moment, which is odd, as the game tends to favour treys and layups over everything else.

Prob just my wonky timing.

[Nevertheles109]

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I love that people say it doesn't exist anymore.... hahaha... Did you watch the finals?....jk

But really to say it doesn't exist is BS. CP3, Kyrie, Dirk, LMA and a few others make their living in the med range. You can't get that with these players. This game just doesn't let you get into those areas.

Jeebs, I disagree.

The three is MUCH easier to master, because its typically a spot up opportunity or open.

With the mid-range/post-up game, it takes craftiness. With LMA, I dominate the mid-range game. Same with Melo, Uncle Drew and CP3. Your window is much smaller and it takes more than pressing the button and knowing the players shot release.

[Roger_Black]

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That's fine that he led them in scoring. The Spurs were a collection of talent by then without one true star leading the way. He had a great series no doubt, but Leonard and Green did as well.

It's fine if you can't admit you're wrong. I'm done.

“The Spurs were a collection of talent by then without one true star leading the way????” - lmaoooo

You cannot be serious. Stop it. Just stop.

• First of all, Tim Duncan is a 15x time All-Star….
  
• Second of all, Danny Green has NEVER been an All-Star since he got drafted in 2009. Not once. Ever.
  
• Third of all, Kawhi Leonard got drafted in summer 2011, right before the NBA lockout.

The 161-day lockout began on July 1, 2011 and ended on December 8, 2011.

It delayed the start of the 2011–12 regular season from November 1 to December 25, and it reduced the regular season from 82 to 66 games.

When the lockout ended, Leonard signed with the Spurs.

After the ‘short’ 2012 season…. then the Spurs went to the Finals the very next year, in the 2013 season.


So who was the ‘one true star’ of the Spurs during that time? Do tell.

I’ll give you a hint…. the ‘ONE TRUE STAR’ of the Spurs… was not the Rookie who just played his very first (lockout shortened) NBA season…. and it was definitely not the guy who NEVER appeared in an All-Star game.

That ‘collection of talent’ (as you called it) was assembled to help their number #1 ’Franchise Player’ (named Tim Duncan) reach the Finals again.

Tim Duncan was the 'one true star' on the Spurs. Point Blank.
He was 'The Franchise' for almost 2 decades.

Leonard & Green having ‘one good series’ does NOT replace the previous 15-16 years of (HOF worthy / ALL-STAR level) accomplishments that Tim Duncan had…. before EITHER ONE OF THEM were on the team.

Unbelievable how you just DIMINISHED Tim Duncan’s whole career and relegated him to ‘sidekick’ status… then tried to claim victory.

That’s utterly ridiculous.

Obviously, you are not watching the SAME NBA as the rest of us, if you think that Tim Duncan was not 'the one true star' of the team back then.

[Ice Money]

Re: Where the heck is the mid-range game in 2k16?

Mid range is accessible if you learn to use post properly and run plays to screen your shooter open. If he has dead eye or corner specialist know when to shoot for higher percentages.