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  • blk5tar5
    Pro
    • Nov 2014
    • 809

    #1

    2K17 Peer to Peer Server or Dedicated Server

    OS users lately I noticed 2K been having issues connecting games / lag/ odd stuff going on lately in the games.

    Last night for example i was playing against a user who pick NYK and i was using the T-Wolves. After 4-5 min during the 1st quarter of the game I call timeout to make changes to the line up i get "waiting for opponent". I get the win when you check the results but overall i get the lost in my overall record.

    Do you think 2K should have dedicated servers or will they continue to use peer to peer?
  • Breakstarter
    Rookie
    • Jan 2016
    • 419

    #2
    Re: 2K17 Peer to Peer Server or Dedicated Server

    Dedicated servers? Ummm I'm pretty sure at this point 2k16 is running on dedicated servers. What else could they be sharing their servers with? Maybe it was your opponents connection. Do you understand how many people play 2k on a daily basis on ps4, Xbox one and pc? I do think have the numbers but I'm sure altogether it's close to about the six figure range....that's too many people online at the same time NOT to be running on dedicated servers. Idk really I'm just sharing my thoughts.

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    • blk5tar5
      Pro
      • Nov 2014
      • 809

      #3
      Re: 2K17 Peer to Peer Server or Dedicated Server

      Originally posted by Breakstarter
      Dedicated servers? Ummm I'm pretty sure at this point 2k16 is running on dedicated servers. What else could they be sharing their servers with? Maybe it was your opponents connection. Do you understand how many people play 2k on a daily basis on ps4, Xbox one and pc? I do think have the numbers but I'm sure altogether it's close to about the six figure range....that's too many people online at the same time NOT to be running on dedicated servers. Idk really I'm just sharing my thoughts.
      Hey that's what this forum is all about and yes i know there's a lot of users playing 2K. But base your information i got a example from another person and he use COD as an example now the figure would be greater for 2K i'm just curious how are they able to do this?

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      How much does it actually cost a company to run dedicated servers on a game as large as COD?

      so I was wondering, how much does it actually cost annually for a company to run full fledged dedicated servers for all users that play? any insight would be appreciated as i am very curious.

      The cost can vary a lot, and it also depends on how it's done.

      If you host the servers "in house," then you're responsible for buying and maintaining the machines. That means hardware, backbone connections, bandwidth, support team, repair costs, electricity, etc.

      There's also the matter of having multiple connections to internet providers (we're talking backbone providers like Level 3 and Cogent, not last-mile providers like Comcast or Time Warner) in case one of them goes out or a line gets cut. Backup power in case of public power loss. And multiple physical locations around the globe to host local servers so everyone can play with a reasonable ping.

      Then there's the option of paying someone else to manage all of that and just rent a group of servers from various locations.

      I rent a cheap server from a colocation facility (~USD$66/month, paid annually), and I can host three maybe four copies of a Killing Floor server on it. Depending on how a game and server is made, a single machine could host many more.

      Thus, renting a quality server costs a thousand a year or more, depending on the quality of the server. And usually has a "startup cost" because they have to buy the hardware and don't want you renting it for one month and dropping it, sticking them with the hardware cost.

      Let's say a USD$1500/year server can host 12 copies of a game server.

      Steam Stats http://store.steampowered.com/stats says there are about 7000 people playing Evolve right now. Five players a game, that's 1400 copies that need hosting. 12 copies per machine, that's about 115 servers. At L$1500/yr, that's $172,500 per year. Plus any fees (generally several hundred each) for renting a new server. And it's likely they need to keep more than that available so people can still play at peak hours, even though in the off hours and a month from now that number of servers required is gonna go down.
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      • Black Bruce Wayne
        MVP
        • Aug 2015
        • 1459

        #4
        Re: 2K17 Peer to Peer Server or Dedicated Server

        Originally posted by blk5tar5
        Hey that's what this forum is all about and yes i know there's a lot of users playing 2K. But base your information i got a example from another person and he use COD as an example now the figure would be greater for 2K i'm just curious how are they able to do this?

        ************
        How much does it actually cost a company to run dedicated servers on a game as large as COD?

        so I was wondering, how much does it actually cost annually for a company to run full fledged dedicated servers for all users that play? any insight would be appreciated as i am very curious.

        The cost can vary a lot, and it also depends on how it's done.

        If you host the servers "in house," then you're responsible for buying and maintaining the machines. That means hardware, backbone connections, bandwidth, support team, repair costs, electricity, etc.

        There's also the matter of having multiple connections to internet providers (we're talking backbone providers like Level 3 and Cogent, not last-mile providers like Comcast or Time Warner) in case one of them goes out or a line gets cut. Backup power in case of public power loss. And multiple physical locations around the globe to host local servers so everyone can play with a reasonable ping.

        Then there's the option of paying someone else to manage all of that and just rent a group of servers from various locations.

        I rent a cheap server from a colocation facility (~USD$66/month, paid annually), and I can host three maybe four copies of a Killing Floor server on it. Depending on how a game and server is made, a single machine could host many more.

        Thus, renting a quality server costs a thousand a year or more, depending on the quality of the server. And usually has a "startup cost" because they have to buy the hardware and don't want you renting it for one month and dropping it, sticking them with the hardware cost.

        Let's say a USD$1500/year server can host 12 copies of a game server.

        Steam Stats http://store.steampowered.com/stats says there are about 7000 people playing Evolve right now. Five players a game, that's 1400 copies that need hosting. 12 copies per machine, that's about 115 servers. At L$1500/yr, that's $172,500 per year. Plus any fees (generally several hundred each) for renting a new server. And it's likely they need to keep more than that available so people can still play at peak hours, even though in the off hours and a month from now that number of servers required is gonna go down.
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        You are forgetting that Battlefield lets you rent servers,,,

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        • blk5tar5
          Pro
          • Nov 2014
          • 809

          #5
          Re: 2K17 Peer to Peer Server or Dedicated Server

          thanks!! never knew that. Well again I hope 2K looks on going forward on making the network flawless for all the users who play.

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          • Dyslexicphish
            Rookie
            • Mar 2007
            • 263

            #6
            Re: 2K17 Peer to Peer Server or Dedicated Server

            I'm positive that 2k uses servers owned by their parent company Take Two Interactive.

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            • vetmin
              Pro
              • Sep 2019
              • 955

              #7
              Re: 2K17 Peer to Peer Server or Dedicated Server

              Operation Sports is apparently having some sort of issue with ChatGPT-ish bots signing up and replying to random threads...? I've seen this several times now.
              Last edited by mestevo; 11-29-2024, 06:28 PM.

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              • mestevo
                Gooney Goo Goo
                • Apr 2010
                • 19556

                #8
                Re: 2K17 Peer to Peer Server or Dedicated Server

                Yeah, it happens. Please report them, don't quote them, as you can help spread links that are deceptively embedded, as well as help their messaging (irrelevant or otherwise) get indexed by search engines.

                Thanks!

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