Some Potential Damages in NBA 2K Tattoo Lawsuit Have Been Dismissed

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  • sane478
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    • Oct 2014
    • 79

    #16
    Re: Some Potential Damages in NBA 2K Tattoo Lawsuit Have Been Dismissed

    Originally posted by Trackball
    Look, guys, I totally get the desire for visual authenticity. I get it.



    But if minor visual details like tattoos are going to result in lawsuits like this, then it's not really worth putting them in the game, is it?



    I'd much rather have an inkless game that plays awesome than a visually-perfect game that plays like Superman 64.


    I think we all feel the same way as you just stating how stupid it is.


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    • ksteward84
      Rookie
      • Aug 2014
      • 312

      #17
      Re: Some Potential Damages in NBA 2K Tattoo Lawsuit Have Been Dismissed

      An interesting part is that WWE 2K is usually super detailed about tattoos (or I'm just not paying close enough attention)
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      • mcpats
        Rookie
        • Aug 2010
        • 104

        #18
        How is 2k liable and not the players and/or players union. Isn't that point of purchasing the rights from a union? You can recreate the player's likeness whether it's hairstyle, freckles, scars, or tattoos. Isn't it up to the players and the union to let 2k know if there are any specific barriers to recreating said players? I think it falls on the players and their representatives to present a 'clean' license to their business partner

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        • badazzleroybrown
          Rookie
          • May 2013
          • 223

          #19
          any pro athlete just needs to make up a form that states that they have all rights to the art work
          or if it is not a original then that they have the right for it to be used. i just see it as a bunch of nobody tattoo artists trying to get something for nothing. next it will be the people who make the ink saying they are being infringed upon
          does this stuff ever end

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          • ChaseB
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            • Oct 2003
            • 9843

            #20
            I feel like a lot of the "this is stupid" comments come from a place of wanting the video game to be authentic rather than disagreeing with the thought process. Which, hey, that's fine, but at least just be up front about that.
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            • BluFu
              MVP
              • May 2012
              • 3596

              #21
              Re: Some Potential Damages in NBA 2K Tattoo Lawsuit Have Been Dismissed

              Originally posted by ChaseB
              I feel like a lot of the "this is stupid" comments come from a place of wanting the video game to be authentic rather than disagreeing with the thought process. Which, hey, that's fine, but at least just be up front about that.
              Forgive me, but I'm genuinely confused as to how tattoo artists can literally own a part of someone's body.

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #22
                Re: Some Potential Damages in NBA 2K Tattoo Lawsuit Have Been Dismissed

                Originally posted by BluFu
                Forgive me, but I'm genuinely confused as to how tattoo artists can literally own a part of someone's body.
                They don't own the body part. They own the art on the body part.
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                • juicey79
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 403

                  #23
                  Bottom line why allow yourself to be someone's personal canvas if you can't own the right to something you paid for. It's very silly in my opinion.

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                  • mcpats
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 104

                    #24
                    Sure they own the art, meaning other artists can't steal that design and use it on their own clients. It also means 2k can't take a specific tattoo off LeBron and make it available for your MyPlayer or your center court logo, which they do not do. However, a person's pigment is part of their likeness, whether it's their natural born color or if it's been electively altered (i.e. tattoo).

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                    • Phreezy P
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 3219

                      #25
                      Re: Some Potential Damages in NBA 2K Tattoo Lawsuit Have Been Dismissed

                      I'm just hoping they don't get affected by this for future releases. Hopefully they find a way to get in contact with some tattoo parlors to make sure they aren't infringing upon anything. I just hope they don't go the Madden route and clear all the tattoos out the game.
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                      • bigdipper88
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 191

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Junior Moe
                        Wow! That's a good point. I wonder if I got Mickey Mouse tatted on my arm could Disney sue the tattoo artist. That's interesting...
                        CM Punk never had his Pepsi or Cobra Commander tats in wrestling games, so I can see where that comes into play

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                        • wallofhate
                          Pro
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 654

                          #27
                          It's both for me. It bugs me that it threatens the authenticity but I can't lie it also bothers me that this is even a thing. I find it stupid for coming from tattoo artist of all ppl who for the money will tattoo anything. I get the scenario of a graphics designer creating something of a painter creating something and someone uses their creation likeness to profit but this is more of a stretch imo. Taking advantage of the system is legal but a waste of time and money and a get cash quick angle. Even the tattoo artist that was suing the hangover movie I thought was dumb too.

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                          • CaseIH
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 3945

                            #28
                            Re: Some Potential Damages in NBA 2K Tattoo Lawsuit Have Been Dismissed

                            Originally posted by Vni
                            Shouldn't tattoos become the player's property ? I don't really get it. It's on their body, most likely they've decided what they wanted to draw on their body, I don't get why do the tattoo artists own them.

                            Yep, thats my feeling as well. Glad 2k won this argument, always someone out there trying to get a free handout, it seems to be the New American way, rather than working hard for it and earning it.
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                            • nuckles2k2
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 1922

                              #29
                              Re: Some Potential Damages in NBA 2K Tattoo Lawsuit Have Been Dismissed

                              Originally posted by mcpats
                              Sure they own the art, meaning other artists can't steal that design and use it on their own clients. It also means 2k can't take a specific tattoo off LeBron and make it available for your MyPlayer or your center court logo, which they do not do. However, a person's pigment is part of their likeness, whether it's their natural born color or if it's been electively altered (i.e. tattoo).
                              They also can't package it in something that they monetarily gain from. No it's not called Tats 2K16, but they're still in the game, a game that's not free.

                              That's just how licensing goes.

                              If I don't license my code in a way where someone else can take it and use it in a commercial product -- but they do anyway, no matter how small...they're stealing. I didn't give them permission to use this when they make a single cent. So don't do it. Use something else, or get permission.

                              I can see both side of this argument. It does seem kind of petty tho. Where were they all those years ago?

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                              • Junior Moe
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 3856

                                #30
                                Re: Some Potential Damages in NBA 2K Tattoo Lawsuit Have Been Dismissed

                                Originally posted by bigdipper88
                                CM Punk never had his Pepsi or Cobra Commander tats in wrestling games, so I can see where that comes into play
                                Hopefully 2K and others go that route and just alter the designs that way they're clear of lawsuits and we still get to keep the semblance of realism.

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