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  • hesko
    Pro
    • Jan 2012
    • 536

    #61
    Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

    Originally posted by 23
    What I do think is that the way its been handled marketing wise has caused a divide at least until we get some actual real meat of whats going on with the game.

    I also think they need to cool that hype stuff down and focus. It could have very well started the beginning of the end of that nonsense.

    This right here.

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    • MarkWilliam
      72-10
      • Oct 2012
      • 2325

      #62
      Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

      Originally posted by WISports
      I definitely buy the game, and enjoy it for the most part.

      But to me, realism just adds to the experience. And players looking like themselves is a huge part of that.

      I have said that the lighting looks much better this year, just going off of what we've seen so far.

      But these player models being off is inexcusable IMO. It really is.

      They CAN make players arms/legs the same thickness as their real life counterparts. Nobody will convince me of otherwise. Yet they don't. Why?

      Stuff like the arm sleeve. You can't tell me they can't make it longer, like they are in real life.

      Jimmy Butler's body looks NOTHING like him. Again, why? NBA friggin' Live did a much better job at this. That says a lot.
      I hear you. I dunno if I'd go as far as to call it "inexcusable" but I understand it may annoy you more personally.

      I do WISH they could find the "happy medium" though.

      Saying that, I think KD is a bit too thin in the arms, Butler definitely too bulky. Dennis a little thin etc. etc. but I can't help but wonder, if there are 500 players in the game, maybe a good % of them are closer than these guys.

      Perfection is not very reasonable to demand. But I sometimes think about how things that were once good, got worse (off topic - MJ's face). To me, this applies to some of the body issues.

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      • JKSportsGamer1984
        MVP
        • May 2014
        • 1414

        #63
        How can 2K not see that his arms are way too skinny? Where's the muscle definition?

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        • axamboutme96
          Rookie
          • Sep 2012
          • 8

          #64
          Originally posted by WISports
          I'll re-post what I posted in another thread, since this thread is about this specific pic.



          There's just so much wrong.

          They have his face too fat.

          They have his arms too skinny.

          They have ZERO muscle definition.

          They have his arms disproportionate. His arms above his elbow look way too long. What's going on there?

          The sleeve doesn't go high enough on his bicep.

          The sleeve should reach his wrist, but nope!

          This is just sad and quite frankly unacceptable. With all the work 2K puts into these games, it's sad that they don't hold the art dept. accountable for this garbage. Where's some of these guys' pride?
          I feel you on everything but I'd focus on the issues with these player models first before the sleeves and other accessories. I've been a Hawks season ticket holder the past couple of years and I gotta say this body on Dennis is downright disrespectful. Let's put it this way, Dennis is 6'1 170-175 lbs, which is lightweight forsure but in this screen he's built like my 15 year old brother who's also 6'1 but he's 145 lbs! I can tell they're trying but it gets to the point where trying isn't good enough when you're supposed to be putting out a top notch product. Some people may not find this to be a big issue but if the games focus is creating an immersive simulation (someone could mistake the game being played on broadcast for an actual live game) then they NEED to do a better job on some of this art. The only person in the league I can think of who's as slim as these KD/Schroeder screenshots is MAYBE Ingram. If they do Giannis like this... (*sigh) do better 2k. Please.

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          • axamboutme96
            Rookie
            • Sep 2012
            • 8

            #65
            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            Schroeder is too dark in the game and as a member of the Brownskin Coalition, I'm offended by this picture and will seriously consider passing up this year if he looks like this in the game.
            Dennis black as midnight in real life fam...

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            • Irkentier
              Rookie
              • Aug 2016
              • 10

              #66
              Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

              Man, seeing that face from 2k16 and the comparison of the screenshot and real life this seems like a massive downgrade.

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              • Crunky
                MVP
                • May 2009
                • 1170

                #67
                Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

                I can only imagine how Giannis is going to look, if they mess him up they should officially delay the game and yes it is that serious.

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                • Smirkin Dirk
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 5170

                  #68
                  Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

                  Originally posted by Crunky
                  I can only imagine how Giannis is going to look, if they mess him up they should officially delay the game and yes it is that serious.
                  No, it's not a serious point.
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                  • Crunky
                    MVP
                    • May 2009
                    • 1170

                    #69
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

                    Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
                    No, it's not a serious point.
                    For you it may not be but for me this stuff kills the immersion especially when 2k got bodytypes correct before.

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                    • Crunky
                      MVP
                      • May 2009
                      • 1170

                      #70
                      Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

                      I say this on every picture thread but its true, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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                      • youvalss
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                        • Feb 2007
                        • 16596

                        #71
                        Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

                        Looks ok, other than those arms. He would not be able to wear those sleeves, they would be too loose. He looks like he's 140 lbs. (looking at the arms, though his body model may not be proportional to the arms).
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                        • WISports
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 2058

                          #72
                          Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

                          Originally posted by Crunky
                          I can only imagine how Giannis is going to look, if they mess him up they should officially delay the game and yes it is that serious.
                          Lord be with me...

                          Giannis arms are ripped, but has those skinny legs. I bet there's a 1% chance they get this right. Along with his hair and skin tone, which were off last year.

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                          • MarkWilliam
                            72-10
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 2325

                            #73
                            Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

                            Originally posted by WISports
                            Lord be with me...

                            Giannis arms are ripped, but has those skinny legs. I bet there's a 1% chance they get this right. Along with his hair and skin tone, which were off last year.

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                            • Jrocc23
                              MVP
                              • May 2010
                              • 3206

                              #74
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

                              Mannnn, what the hell is going on w/ 2K art department? I've never been the one to be anal about graphics and even avoided some of the super critical threads because it's starts making you notice those super small things that might end up irking you down the road. But these screenshots of these players models has been terrible body wise.



                              Then you have Ronnie and Czar laughing like we have the issue and it blows my mind that they can look at these models and say "Nailed it". It's ridiculous. Yes, Czar the screens at first players were too big and yes now they are skinny.



                              Man, I just don't understand it? This dude has no type of muscle definition or anything. Not a game breaker but I hope they can fix this stuff before 2K17 releases.


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                              • MarkWilliam
                                72-10
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 2325

                                #75
                                Re: NBA 2K17 Screenshot - Dennis Schröder

                                The devs work hard, I mean incredibly hard. And I would NEVER dispute that and 100% appreciate it.

                                When it comes to looking at what's in front of us, we have an obligation to give feedback in the name of improvement.

                                I for one am willing to call an apple an apple. Kevin Durant to me was fine (arm thickness). Just had square shoulders which was NOT natural.

                                Now to attempt to improve it, it appears the issue was misdiagnosed and they've made him skinnier. Not where the problem was.

                                As a result, we have the above.

                                Can we live with it? Sure. But can we have an opinion on it? Absolutely! And the day the 2K community stops voicing their opinion is the day the game STOPS IMPROVING. I have bought every game since 2K6 and when its no longer about the community voicing their issues in the name of improvement is the day I stop purchasing.

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