2K17 Shooting

[Mintsa]

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Anyone that adapted and used the shot stick from day one. This ain't no big deal. We just keep doing what we've been doing.

But all of you button shooters.........well.......LOL. Its time for a change boys, it's 2016 !!!

[ksuttonjr76]

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This is very similar to on ball defense. You got a bigger boost or defensive impact if you played on ball defense yourself then letting the CPU do it for you. Now that one shooting is harder than the button press the boost is greater for using the harder shooting control. If I had to guess it would be like at like 3-5% boost.

The one thing I like about "forcing" people to use the shot stick is that it allows for human error to be a genuine factor kinda like how it is on the defensive end. Although I understand where button users are coming from, however you could completely master a player's shooting animation with the button. As a result, some players were able to shoot above their rating.

With the shot stick being the primary scoring mechanic, it widens the gap between skilled and casual players. I like it.

[ksuttonjr76]

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Bad idea imo. I use the button. Anyone who plays online knows that the input lag and sensitivity of the stick makes it vastly inferior.

Probably won't matter as the boost you get from using a laggy overly sensitive stick will probably just match a nerfed button anyway.

Actually, I always felt this was one of biggest untruth when it came to NBA 2K. The shot stick is really a great feature, and it's not impacted by input lag like some people think it is. Truth be told, if you have input lag for the stick then you got input lag for the button too. Period.

[Mintsa]

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KSutt........spittin truth right now.

I agree 100 % on all points.

[Crunky]

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If I had my way I would make shooting exclusive to the button and open up the shot stick for more maneuvers or moves like passing and more advanced dribbling moves.

[Rip4ever]

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Actually, I always felt this was one of biggest untruth when it came to NBA 2K. The shot stick is really a great feature, and it's not impacted by input lag like some people think it is. Truth be told, if you have input lag for the stick then you got input lag for the button too. Period.

It isn't controller lag it is user lag. I can press and/or release a 2mm button quicker than moving a stick 8-10mm. When you are well into your 50s user lag is the bottleneck.

[thedream2k16]

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After viewing the video again, they mention having "Certain advantages" when using the stick. Don't exactly know if that means the shots will have a boost. Any ideas?

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Certain moves on offense will be unavailable to button shooters more than likely

[Pokes404]

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My assumption for how this will work is:

Button:
+ Don't have to worry about accuracy on the stick during the shot.
- Smaller "sweet spot" on the meter

Stick:
+ Larger "sweet spot"
- Have to worry about pulling the stick back accurately

[Gramps91]

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If I had my way I would make shooting exclusive to the button and open up the shot stick for more maneuvers or moves like passing and more advanced dribbling moves.

This. I love using the sticks for advanced dribbling moves. Hate using it for shooting.

[ksuttonjr76]

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If I had my way I would make shooting exclusive to the button and open up the shot stick for more maneuvers or moves like passing and more advanced dribbling moves.

Not sure how many more advanced dribbling moves are left to put on the right stick.

[VinsanityLives]

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Bad idea imo. I use the button. Anyone who plays online knows that the input lag and sensitivity of the stick makes it vastly inferior.

Probably won't matter as the boost you get from using a laggy overly sensitive stick will probably just match a nerfed button anyway.

Well, if you have input lag for the stick, you'll have it for every button..

I'm one that rips A LOT on 2k, mostly because the way they've acted the past few years...Input Lag used to be my #1 complaint constantly and how they'd ignore it. It single handedly ruined the game for me, one who was no longer in college (holy **** life moves fast) and played 90℅ online vs others. I hated hated input lag.. you CANT play any sports game, reliant on reaction, with INPUT LAG. They had it so bad too. The worst. They told me it was my connection. My fault, this that. Ronnie response to community 'my connection at the 2k studio is just fine' (idiot)

That said..

They quietly did fix it sometime last year. They did it quietly, not to admit it. But I was truly shocked at how much it improved by the beginning of 2016. I'd say it's 95℅ gone if you use a direct Ethernet cable to your internet. The delay is almost completely gone. The sad thing tho is by the time it was fixed in 16, the game itself wasn't that fun anymore imo..

Sorry for the long posts today.
Had a lot of coffee.

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[Gramps91]

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Not sure how many more advanced dribbling moves are left to put on the right stick.

Sometimes the problem I have is that I try to do a dribbling move and I'll hold the stick down to long and end up shooting when I don't want to. This is why I prefer to use the stick for dribbling moves and use the button to shoot. I feel like they're putting to much on the stick and I don't like to use it to shoot in the first place.

[ILLSmak]

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I've read a couple of articles about 2k17, and they talk about shooting with the right stick and how you have to pull it straight back to get your shot on target, compared to this year where you could pull the right stick on an angle and your shot would still be on target as long as you timed the release.

My question is "What if you mainly use the button to shoot?". In 2k16 I shot nearly all of my jump shots with the button, only using the stick around the hoop, to finnish with the hand I wanted to avoid the block for example.
Since they have made shooting with the stick more difficult , I am wondering how will the shooting with the button be different, any ideas?

I remember suggesting that a few years ago. Kinda funny when stuff you suggested gets in the game, even if it's by complete luck. That's a huge step to making the game harder/ higher skill cap.

Next they need to come up with a way to make passing more dynamic.

-Smak

[ksuttonjr76]

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Sometimes the problem I have is that I try to do a dribbling move and I'll hold the stick down to long and end up shooting when I don't want to. This is why I prefer to use the stick for dribbling moves and use the button to shoot. I feel like they're putting to much on the stick and I don't like to use it to shoot in the first place.

Ah. I see. I don't recall ever having that problem before myself, but you should be making quick moves on the right stick.

[Rip4ever]

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Sometimes the problem I have is that I try to do a dribbling move and I'll hold the stick down to long and end up shooting when I don't want to. This is why I prefer to use the stick for dribbling moves and use the button to shoot. I feel like they're putting to much on the stick and I don't like to use it to shoot in the first place.

This, I've been known to attempt a crossover bringing the ball up court and end up heaving the ball like the clock was about to expire. Got me benched a few times before I quit even attempting it.