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  • Mauer4MVP
    MVP
    • Mar 2010
    • 2407

    #631
    Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

    Originally posted by Crunky
    Just think about how cell phones work nowadays you download a app than the app comes out with new features but you have to upgrade to the new iPhone, android to get it and you upgrade. Just think in business terms 2k is in bed with ps4 and Xbox One this is all a plan to upgrade consoles, Easports is involved also.
    That isn't always just so they can add incentive to upgrade though. Sometimes that's due to how rapidly technology is advAncing right now and how much the consumer is demanding it be upgrading.

    Trust me, they wouldn't be be putting out annual improvements if the consumer wasn't demanding it. Just like this would be solved if 2k went every other year. It'd fix a ton of these issues, but we wouldn't like it.

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    • Vni
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2011
      • 14831

      #632
      Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

      Originally posted by Crunky
      You guys have to think in business terms 2k is in bed with ps4 and Xbox One so their screwing up player models up on purpose on the current consoles so when the ps4 neo and Xbox Scorpio come out people will be like wow look at the graphical jump from the current consoles. Player Models will be on point, player detail, photorealistic faces, you got to be a fool to not think 2k holding back graphically, people would jump at the opportunity to abandon the current consoles and game to upgrade to ps4 Neo and Xbox One since it is a cartoon direction 2k is heading in, for photorealistic graphics knowing we had that already in 2k14.
      Lol do you actually believe that ? Everytime they add something they have to sacrifice something else as shown by 2K15 and 2K16 compared to 2K14. Theses consoles are giving all they've got especially since they want to maintain 60 fps wich they just are barely able to do.

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      • ksuttonjr76
        All Star
        • Nov 2004
        • 8662

        #633
        Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

        Originally posted by WISports
        These player models are so terrible, the only thing I can think of is they're doing this on purpose, so next year they can tout "all new, more realistic player models".


        That's the only conclusion I can come to, because there's no way their art department can be this incompetent. And if they are, then whoever is in charge of the bodies needs to be fired.

        Come on, Man! If you can do better, then I would highly recommend putting in a job application. Otherwise, you got to chill with this talk every chance you get. Heaven forbid if they "mess up" the Bucks. We might have to talk you away from a ledge somewhere.

        It could be as easy they got to who they had time to get to this year, and they'll get to more in NBA 2K18. There have been improvements in the player models which should CLEARLY indicate that they're working on them. There have been improvements in the arena lighting which should CLEARLY indicate they're working on them.

        At this point, you just need to decide whether or not you're going to skip 2K17 due to the player models.

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        • Luke Skywalker
          Pro
          • Dec 2014
          • 917

          #634
          Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

          Marquesse Chriss has Hassan Whiteside's cyber face 😶

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          • GradyMac
            Rookie
            • Nov 2012
            • 421

            #635
            Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

            Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
            Come on, Man! If you can do better, then I would highly recommend putting in a job application. Otherwise, you got to chill with this talk every chance you get. Heaven forbid if they "mess up" the Bucks. We might have to talk you away from a ledge somewhere.

            It could be as easy they got to who they had time to get to this year, and they'll get to more in NBA 2K18. There have been improvements in the player models which should CLEARLY indicate that they're working on them. There have been improvements in the arena lighting which should CLEARLY indicate they're working on them.

            At this point, you just need to decide whether or not you're going to skip 2K17 due to the player models.
            I agree, some people remind me of that South Park episode where Stan only sees the bad in things and everything looks like crap.

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            • Crunky
              MVP
              • May 2009
              • 1170

              #636
              Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

              I'm going to put it in simple terms so you guy can understand me better, 2k is in a position where they don't have to give major improvements especially correct player models. Just think if 2k gave us everything we wanted player models and modes what would give us the reason to update. For example I purchased WWE 2k16 as a casual gamer I downloaded over 300 Created Wrestlers that are more detailed than the on disc models do you think I'm going to upgrade to WWE 2k17 knowing I got the roster I wanted, heck no let me remind you I'm a casual gamer. Just put that into perspective if NBA 2k gave us similar abilities to update our created players like WWE 2k there will be casual NBA 2k gamers satisfied with that current game and not want to upgrade, that's bad for business. You have the best game developers in NBA 2k you telling me they can't get a player model correct, no they can its just bad for business. Watch when Neo and Scorpio come out how player models are correct on one system and not the other, just watch and everybody going willfully upgrade consoles because they don't think.

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              • gabri3l3
                Pro
                • Mar 2009
                • 582

                #637
                Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

                Originally posted by Crunky
                I'm going to put it in simple terms so you guy can understand me better, 2k is in a position where they don't have to give major improvements especially correct player models. Just think if 2k gave us everything we wanted player models and modes what would give us the reason to update. For example I purchased WWE 2k16 as a casual gamer I downloaded over 300 Created Wrestlers that are more detailed than the on disc models do you think I'm going to upgrade to WWE 2k17 knowing I got the roster I wanted, heck no let me remind you I'm a casual gamer. Just put that into perspective if NBA 2k gave us similar abilities to update our created players like WWE 2k there will be casual NBA 2k gamers satisfied with that current game and not want to upgrade, that's bad for business. You have the best game developers in NBA 2k you telling me they can't get a player model correct, no they can its just bad for business. Watch when Neo and Scorpio come out how player models are correct on one system and not the other, just watch and everybody going willfully upgrade consoles because they don't think.
                Best post I've read on OS in a while. I've been thinking the exact same things for a while. That's real talk and makes perfect sense.
                -XBOX LIVE: gz18

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                • J_Posse
                  Greatness Personified
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 11252

                  #638
                  Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

                  Originally posted by WISports
                  These player models are so terrible, the only thing I can think of is they're doing this on purpose, so next year they can tout "all new, more realistic player models".


                  That's the only conclusion I can come to, because there's no way their art department can be this incompetent. And if they are, then whoever is in charge of the bodies needs to be fired.

                  See, I'm down with them making the appropriate changes and all, but this is when you start to go beyond just being constructive.

                  No one needs to lose their job or is "incompetent," but they do need to add more body types, fix the one's that look bad and such.

                  It sucks to say this, but people need to realize that this is a video game on a one-year development cycle so things will be missed. And I'm saying all that knowing damn well that most of the accessories issues (which I care about) won't be addressed. That's life.....

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                  Last edited by J_Posse; 08-28-2016, 01:03 PM.
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                  • ksuttonjr76
                    All Star
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 8662

                    #639
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

                    Originally posted by Crunky
                    I'm going to put it in simple terms so you guy can understand me better, 2k is in a position where they don't have to give major improvements especially correct player models. Just think if 2k gave us everything we wanted player models and modes what would give us the reason to update. For example I purchased WWE 2k16 as a casual gamer I downloaded over 300 Created Wrestlers that are more detailed than the on disc models do you think I'm going to upgrade to WWE 2k17 knowing I got the roster I wanted, heck no let me remind you I'm a casual gamer. Just put that into perspective if NBA 2k gave us similar abilities to update our created players like WWE 2k there will be casual NBA 2k gamers satisfied with that current game and not want to upgrade, that's bad for business. You have the best game developers in NBA 2k you telling me they can't get a player model correct, no they can its just bad for business. Watch when Neo and Scorpio come out how player models are correct on one system and not the other, just watch and everybody going willfully upgrade consoles because they don't think.
                    Oh damn. You actually believed what you posted earlier.

                    Let's put some perspective on this. First off, it's a short development cycle. They only have so much time and resources to fix old stuff and give gamers something new.

                    Second, the Neo and Scorpio are capable of delivering more "power" to the graphics due to the hardware. If the player models are better on the new systems, it's due to the hardware simply being able to handle it. It's not, because 2K Sports was holding back on the quality of their product. What company does that???

                    Lastly, a large group of people are going to buy the game every year on the simple premise that 2K Sports turns off the server on the previous title. Unless you're a die hard offline gamer, people are going to want to play the newest roster and continue playing My Park.
                    Last edited by ksuttonjr76; 08-28-2016, 12:58 PM.

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                    • WISports
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 2058

                      #640
                      Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

                      Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                      Come on, Man! If you can do better, then I would highly recommend putting in a job application. Otherwise, you got to chill with this talk every chance you get. Heaven forbid if they "mess up" the Bucks. We might have to talk you away from a ledge somewhere.

                      It could be as easy they got to who they had time to get to this year, and they'll get to more in NBA 2K18. There have been improvements in the player models which should CLEARLY indicate that they're working on them. There have been improvements in the arena lighting which should CLEARLY indicate they're working on them.

                      At this point, you just need to decide whether or not you're going to skip 2K17 due to the player models.
                      That's all excuses.

                      Many player models have seemed to have gotten worse. Period. Lets not act like they didn't have time to make Player X's arms bigger, etc. That's just ridiculous. It's called not having attention to detail. And it shouldn't be hard.

                      And trust me, I already saw the pic where they had the Bucks uniforms messed up...same as last year. But I guess I'll just assume they didn't have time to fix the colors.

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                      • Gilley
                        Pro
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 634

                        #641
                        Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

                        Yay. Now we're creating conspiracies.
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                        • Vni
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 14831

                          #642
                          Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

                          All you're gonna get with the new PS4 is better anti aliasing, better framerate maybe a better resolution and that's about it. Game will look sharper, and will be smoother. Other than that it will be the exact same game.

                          But honestly even if they could (wich they canno't in such a short cyle) they would have no interest in releasing the perfect (authentic NBA sounds, 100% accurate body models, authentic arena specific lighting etc etc) basketball game this year. That's why I'am doubtful we're getting great sound effects this year, they haven't emphasized that at all.
                          Last edited by Vni; 08-28-2016, 01:05 PM.

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                          • J_Posse
                            Greatness Personified
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 11252

                            #643
                            Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

                            Originally posted by gabri3l3
                            Best post I've read on OS in a while. I've been thinking the exact same things for a while. That's real talk and makes perfect sense.
                            That is a completely ludicrous post that you quoted, Gab.

                            They have financial and time constraints that limit what can be added and fixed. People need to realize that these are video games that involve a ton of programming and other technical stuff that takes large amounts of time. Fixing one thing could in fact screw up some other aspect of the game.

                            They have come a long way since last gen alone visually, but clearly the community doesn't want them to "rest on their laurels," but people need to also understand that they are human and changes/improvements take time.



                            from Spurs Nation/Bills Backer HQ
                            Last edited by J_Posse; 08-28-2016, 01:07 PM.
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                            • Vni
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 14831

                              #644
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

                              Originally posted by WISports
                              That's all excuses.

                              Many player models have seemed to have gotten worse. Period. Lets not act like they didn't have time to make Player X's arms bigger, etc. That's just ridiculous. It's called not having attention to detail. And it shouldn't be hard.

                              And trust me, I already saw the pic where they had the Bucks uniforms messed up...same as last year. But I guess I'll just assume they didn't have time to fix the colors.
                              Yeah body models could be accurate, it doesn't need more ressources. This one's on the art team nothing or nobody else. I'am definately good with what they've done this year though as I'am not super into that.

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                              • WISports
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 2058

                                #645
                                Re: NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

                                Originally posted by J_Posse
                                Fixing one thing could in fact screw up some other aspect of the game.
                                So, 2K gave Seth Curry a crazy skinny frame in 2K17. Do you think had they given him a bigger body (like in real life) it would mess up other aspects of the game? Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. How come giving him a super skinny body doesn't mess with other aspects of the game?

                                Messing with frame rates, textures...stuff like that...that can affect other things.

                                How were they able to add a face mask and new hair on D-Rose last year.... in a PATCH?? That didn't screw up the game.

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