NBA 2K17 Player Ratings & Screenshots (More Added as They Are Revealed)

[Gosens6]

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When we still can't put a headband on players on the Neo and Scorpio, I'm going to die laughing remembering some of the ludicrous things said in this thread

[ForeverVersatile]

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Who's making excuses ? I understand body models accuracy are important to some of you but relax, wow. Some guys are a little off and that's to be expected. Man first world problems at it's finest.

There are too many different conversations mixed up in here anyway.

Why are you telling me to relax? I'm not cursing or saying anyone need to be fired or anything like that. I understand some you just want to play the game and probably don't care. I care how the game looks first before anything else. What's the point of a face scan while the body is totally off?


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[gabri3l3]

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FTR, I think the 2K guys do a great job and overall I love these games. I actually enjoy NBA 2K over Madden and MLB The Show.

I just have issue with the art department. I have issue with the inaccuracies that should be an easy fix.

Making players' arms/legs at least close to what they should look like should not be this hard. Getting uniform colors correct should not be that hard. Same with court colors/shades.

These are the type of things that cause people to make the 'lazy' and 'lacking attention to detail' comments. And I think it's warranted in this instance.

Absolutely. We are talking about things that any PC modder can get right in a day of work. These are paid professionals and shoulder size, uniform colors ecc... don't require any technical advancements.

That's why I'm supporting the idea that is not in their best interest from a business perspective to "give the best" now. Every year they obviously need "new" features to sell the game. I think its easy as that.

[Sinner]

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Question here, how many of you are not going to buy the game because many of the player models are so off? I'm not saying it isn't a big deal cause they are wrong. I miss many of the problems many of you catch or just look over it as long as the core game play is good and I'm having fun and I myself think those player models aren't good and need changing so I'm actually just curious.

I do think though to say the art team doesn't know anatomy or is incompetent is pretty absurd. The way the animation/game moves you would have to know a little something about anatomy....yes I know the Art department does the skin and "maybe" not the animation or "skeleton" but to put what we see on that and not have it look all stupid while in motion you HAVE to know something about anatomy and can't be incompetent.

I myself draw but do not know all the little things about animation so asking a question here for those who do know. I play in broadcast view which is a little further back than this picture so from that angle the model doesn't look as bad and you would not see all the muscle definition.



That you would need as you bring the camera closer and play in a more zoomed in view or definitely in replays. Obviously they can't have 2 different player models for everybody in the game I am assuming that would be a camera view thing? So how difficult would it be to have something in the game that registers the closer you bring the camera view the more muscle definition you would see? Essentially the model would be changing as you get closer so how difficult is this to do?

Again I think they need to do something to change them and this isn't an excuse...either way I will enjoy the hell out of the game as always

[WISports]

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What's the point of a face scan while the body is totally off?

I find it interesting that 2K was pimping the whole body-scanning thing last year, then the game came out and we could all see that either a) it failed miserably or b) they never even did it.

I find it even more weird that they never discussed it or acknowledged it after the release. I'm just curious what happened.

But like you said, it's odd that they put so much effort into the faces, but yet the bodies get no love. Hopefully for 2K18 they focus on bodies AND uniform sizes.

[Crunky]

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What ever happened to that clip they showed of Harrison Barnes, the wrinkle on his elbows a small clip they showed. Did they just abandoned all of it or was it all fake cgi to create hype.

[Vni]

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Why are you telling me to relax? I'm not cursing or saying anyone need to be fired or anything like that. I understand some you just want to play the game and probably don't care. I care how the game looks first before anything else. What's the point of a face scan while the body is totally off?


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Cause you jump into a conversation talking about an entirely different thing and claiming we are making excuses. I was just refuting the fact that 2K is holding out on features because of the soon to be PS4 neo wich is completely ridiculous.

Some bodies are off anybody can see that, allright, it's ok. No need to make up conspiracy theories or act like 2K is disrespecting you or something. They can improve them if it's not this year they will keep on improving them. But let's not act like they are completely horrible either and most of them are actually pretty good.

[ksuttonjr76]

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Absolutely. We are talking about things that any PC modder can get right in a day of work. These are paid professionals and shoulder size, uniform colors ecc... don't require any technical advancements.

That's why I'm supporting the idea that is not in their best interest from a business perspective to "give the best" now. Every year they obviously need "new" features to sell the game. I think its easy as that.

Because PC Modders only have to worry about "repainting" the house instead "building" it.

[ksuttonjr76]

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https://youtu.be/M4xJaXLE_98

[ForeverVersatile]

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Cause you jump into a conversation talking about an entirely different thing and claiming we are making excuses. I was just refuting the fact that 2K is holding out on features because of the soon to be PS4 neo wich is completely ridiculous.

Some bodies are off anybody can see that, allright, it's ok. No need to make up conspiracy theories or act like 2K is disrespecting you or something. They can improve them if it's not this year they will keep on improving them. But let's not act like they are completely horrible either and most of them are actually pretty good.

What conversation did I jump into without quoting anyone? Overall there seems to be excuses being made about the body types. 1 being the short cycle or hardware limitations and whatever else. What you think is pretty good may not be the same for someone else.


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[ksuttonjr76]

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https://youtu.be/u0FoYgZmlMs

[The 24th Letter]

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What ever happened to that clip they showed of Harrison Barnes, the wrinkle on his elbows a small clip they showed. Did they just abandoned all of it or was it all fake cgi to create hype.

Elbow wrinkles to create hype? Come on man, lol

I'll just say this, the % of 2k's customer base looking at shoulder width and leg thickness is very, very small.

I would suggest to forget hoping they get it right in 2K18 and being proactive with it. Czar was just saying on twitter the best way to get the info to the team is in doc form....paint a clear picture of what your looking for...because the art team obviously doesnt come here....

[ksuttonjr76]

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https://youtu.be/g3mtTdV-vRs

https://youtu.be/PuB6pOX1JnQ

[Crunky]

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This is the reason why I'm pro competition I actually root for NBA live success and you all should too even as fans of NBA 2k. If NBA lives not a success next year we are going to continue to have these same issues with NBA 2k unless we hurt them in the pocket. Look at it this way if 2k can get one player model correct, they can get all player models correct because where talking about one of the best game developers in the world. You telling me with all the money we give them they can't hire elite artist's to get player models on point. So enough of the excuses no matter how much you defend 2k they still won't hire you so it's ok to take the Cape off.

[Vni]

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What conversation did I jump into without quoting anyone? Overall there seems to be excuses being made about the body types. 1 being the short cycle or hardware limitations and whatever else. What you think is pretty good may not be the same for someone else.


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If bodies aren't accurate it's entirely on the art team. Wether it's time or something else.

But nothing in this game will be perfect either wether it is gameplay, audio, set plays, defense, animations, foot planting. Nothing will be perfect you can take that to the bank.

As far as bodies go best thing to do is to create a thread and put every bodies that are off and hope 2K fix em.