Let's Talk Online Lag...

[Cowboyfan_19]

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The lag in 2k is worse than any other game I've ever played that wasn't an Indie game.

I've complained since the start of the year that my players on play now online feel like they're stuck in mud all the time.

I've tested a few different internet connections from different places here in Texas, and the one constant is that 2k is always the worst input/reaction timing game.

[Coach2K]

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I don't think we can lay all online lag at the feet of 2K servers.

Many people have subpar connections as well everyone in their entire family on the net at the same time watching Netflix, YouTube and everything else while they are not only trying to play but stream as well. Not much 2K can do about someone overloading their connection.

My son has played a ton of Battlefield and experienced lag there so it's not immune from it.

I've played a ton of 12 minute quarter games of NBA2K and lag does happen from time to time but it isn't a huge problem.

I tend to experience more lag in the games against people I don't know.

That's not to say that 2K doesn't have issues with online though. I experience lag here and there and disconnects happen more than they should and it could of course be better.

But whether it was 2K or the person getting beat getting ticked and quitting and just blaming it on 2K servers is debatable sometimes.

People quitting because they don't want to lose is more of a problem in 2K than lag.

[alabamarob]

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I don't think we can lay all online lag at the feet of 2K servers.

Many people have subpar connections as well everyone in their entire family on the net at the same time watching Netflix, YouTube and everything else while they are not only trying to play but stream as well. Not much 2K can do about someone overloading their connection.

My son has played a ton of Battlefield and experienced lag there so it's not immune from it.

I've played a ton of 12 minute quarter games of NBA2K and lag does happen from time to time but it isn't a huge problem.

I tend to experience more lag in the games against people I don't know.

That's not to say that 2K doesn't have issues with online though. I experience lag here and there and disconnects happen more than they should and it could of course be better.

But whether it was 2K or the person getting beat getting ticked and quitting and just blaming it on 2K servers is debatable sometimes.

People quitting because they don't want to lose is more of a problem in 2K than lag.

I agree with coach. 2k has server issues. But, in game lag is player dependant for me. If i play someone with a good connection there is no lag.

[lvnba]

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Yeah...player dependant...

And for that reason lag is almost non-existent in other top games...

[2_headedmonster]

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Of course the connection matters, but i played with the same people ive played countless ProAm games with. The matches ive played of Battlefield with 60 plus players running around were FAR smoother and more responsive than anything ive played online with 2k including 3 on 3 in a MyCourt.

[NoLeafClover]

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I believe 2K use a P2P matchmaking setup for most of their online modes in which one player serves as the "host" while the other player(s) are the guests. Obviously then your lag will depend on how well you match up geographically with the host as well as things like your own net connection, whether someone is using YouTube on your network, etc.

It's different to games like Battlefield in which there's a bunch of dedicated servers that you can pick from with the lowest ping, in which all the server does is serve as the host of the game.

Of course seeing 2K basically never tell us about their technical aspects it could be wrong, but you can notice it just by being in Mypark and launching a game when you are standing on the "home team" (host) dots vs. the "away team" non-host dots.

[NoLeafClover]

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Oh and lag is one of the things that concerns me most given the switch to "timing" layups, as trying to score inside was generally the go-to for when your connection was laggy instead of relying on jump shots.

[ksuttonjr76]

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That's what kills me about this argument. How can you have "lag" using the controller, but it's not visually apparent on the screen?

When I play online it's visually no different than my offline play. Button delay is really what everyone is talking about which doesn't matter whether you have bad or good internet. Hence, button delay should be the same whether it's offline or online. The game is not coded differently.

Are people using the same game speed as online? I play my girlfriend's son offline, and he likes to increase the game speed to 75. It's a night and day difference in the button responses compares to the on screen action.

[Drizzeshootz]

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I really can't complain about the lag in 16 but I would say about after ever 10 games on myteam best believe ur going to lag in a game mypark and proam only lag a bit for me

[minwager]

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I play 2k16 with my PS4 plugged directly into my router, my internet can usually download things at around 11mbps on my pc and I have zero ping issues or lag spikes playing almost any other game.

But the amount of input lag in 2k is still quite jarring when you go from offline to any online mode. You almost have to relearn everyone's shot timing and half the time when you're open for a shot the input delay is so bad that the defender has more than enough time to close in and contest.

[DakkoN]

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That's what kills me about this argument. How can you have "lag" using the controller, but it's not visually apparent on the screen?

When I play online it's visually no different than my offline play. Button delay is really what everyone is talking about which doesn't matter whether you have bad or good internet. Hence, button delay should be the same whether it's offline or online. The game is not coded differently.

Are people using the same game speed as online? I play my girlfriend's son offline, and he likes to increase the game speed to 75. It's a night and day difference in the button responses compares to the on screen action.

I've never had any of these input lag or connection lag these people are going on about.. Game has always felt super responsive to me online.. I don't even have that good of internet (20 down/2.5 up).. I think Coach2K said it perfectly that people have their entire family on their internet watching Netflix/Youtube/etc and blame it 2K instead of their internet.

[minwager]

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It's never a good course of action to reject issues people are having with something and then somehow blame them for having these issues based on factors that you know nothing about

[2_headedmonster]

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If more people are experiencing them than not, how is the logical next step to dismiss it? Lmao

[DakkoN]

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If more people are experiencing them than not, how is the logical next step to dismiss it? Lmao

It's not more people than not.. If it was, this thread wouldn't be struggling to stay on the first page and have less than 900 views in a time where people are breaking the F5 button off their keyboard dying for new info.. Of course the people in the thread are going to say they are experiencing lag because it's a thread about lag, but don't act like it's happening to over half of the user base because if it was, this thread would be being made a bigger deal out of.

[2_headedmonster]

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It's not more people than not.. If it was, this thread wouldn't be struggling to stay on the first page and have less than 900 views in a time where people are breaking the F5 button off their keyboard dying for new info.. Of course the people in the thread are going to say they are experiencing lag because it's a thread about lag, but don't act like it's happening to over half of the user base because if it was, this thread would be being made a bigger deal out of.

People are clamoring for early copies, the latest news and strategizing their myplayer types.

Chase wrote a FEATURED article about the terrible, and often complained about pick and roll defense in NBA 2K16 with gifs and real game comparisons. The thread featuring it is getting over-looked in contrast to the new info threads. It actually has the same number of pages as this one. So that logic doesn't validate your opinion at all buddy.