I think passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

[Oldhead80]

The two handed overhead pass needs to go. If it can't be contextual it should be completely eliminated. The animation is too long, slow and drawn out and kills the flow of quick ball movement in transition or trying to get out on the break. It's also totally immersion-breaking. Watching players make 2 handed overhead passes a few feet away from each other is ridiculous. It's an eye sore and negatively impacts the experience from a gameplay perspective. It's all bad.


Second, watching the vids/leaked footage and then playing a bit of The Prelude today the passing is as floaty as ever. It's a step back from 2k16 in almost every respect. The necessary zip on a given pass seems random and far too infrequent. The animations just to begin a pass attempt are far too slow and it's almost impossible to whip the ball around in a half court sequence.


Mike, as always I appreciate and respect your hard work and your presence here on this board. Hopefully our feedback is just as helpful and insightful as the information you give us.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

This is really good feedback but 'hey dev' threads are often locked.

You should throw this in the thread Mikes answering questions in.

[Vni]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

Completely agree with you. Theses overhead passes are way too slow and floaty. They hurt the game because they often trigger when Icon passing. First I think they should not be able to trigger when icon passing. They trigger when you kick it to an open man and basically cancel an open shot opportunity. Either they can be improved or they should only trigger when using triangle to lob the pass into the post.

That's really the only gameplay flaw I've noticed. The rest overall feels like a major improvement.

Would be nice if a mod could just edit the thread title so it doesn't get locked. I mean anyone who has or will experience the game will notice that the overhead passes are a problem might aswell talk about it now.

[Da InFaMoUs NY]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

I agree completely, way too many interceptions because of how slow the overhead pass is.

[Black Bruce Wayne]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

Also to add, im still waiting for real total control passing . Its still not completely their. I like the high pass and low pass but you still can't put the ball where you want....dare I say like....sigh. .2K. As lately as 2k8, you could put the ball exactly where you wanted. I just want that in Madden

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[KGDunks]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

I've never understood their obsession with overhead passes. I might be crazy, but I don't actually think proper overhead passes that we see regularly in 2K are used anywhere near as much in real life.

Players tend to use them when passing long distances, when passing over hands to a post up player and that's about it really.

They just look really ugly and slow in 2K as well.

[Vni]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

OP save ur post for the official release.

No reason to do so. The issue is there, we can act like it's not but it's gonna be a problem for everyone who'll play the game. The game feels great, but the overhead passes hurt.

[Thetruth9012]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

I agree with this, finished prelude, AI like to do it and their ball movement is hurting because of that.

[LorenzoDC]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

Save it for the eventual game play impressions thread, and keep it constructive.

Beluba and his team read every post in the impressions thread, but they can't reliably keep up with all the side threads.

UPDATE: Um, well. . . He's here after all!

[extremeskins04]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

Anyone have a video that shows this please?

[33JAF]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

I realize that "hey dev" threads aren't allowed, but it would still be nice if we could keep this thread open and maybe edit the title. This is a huge fundamental flaw that's been in the game far too long.

[Beluba]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

Passing guys are looking into it right now. Any specific details would be appreciated. Just overhead speeds too slow? Too many overheads in general? Chest/Bounce speeds too slow as well or just lobs?

[Kushmir]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

Talked to Czar about more two-handed chest pass & one-handed pass animations last year....hopefully they get in soon. Will really improve the variety, look and feel of ball movement.

[Vni]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

Passing guys are looking into it right now. Any specific details would be appreciated. Just overhead speeds too slow? Too many overheads in general? Chest/Bounce speeds too slow as well or just lobs?

I think that overhead passes shoudn't trigger when icon passing. It should be limited to lob pass into the post when manually using the triangle. The problem is that the CPU tends to use it too often aswell.

They are too slow to be effective at anything else but passing the ball into the post.

[33JAF]

Re: Mike...passing REALLY needs to be tweaked/patched as soon as possible

Passing guys are looking into it right now. Any specific details would be appreciated. Just overhead speeds too slow? Too many overheads in general? Chest/Bounce speeds too slow as well or just lobs?

I haven't played 2k17, but judging from the last few versions, I can at least say that the context of overhead passes is off. It triggers far too often when passing to a nearby teammate and slows down the ball movement. I've also seen it happen too often when passing to a teammate who is cutting to the basket.