NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

[nogster]

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I was pretty excited for this season.
An expansion team so I could bring a team back to Seattle. Awesome.
But the gameplay, while having moments of greatness, is really flawed to the point of ruining the experience.
The ******** double teaming as soon as a player crossed half court, which then continues all game. WTF?
The ridiculously broken help D. Where for no reason, players will leave their man to cover another.

I only play single player. so these issues are massive and really ruin the game for me.
This is next gen basketball. How can such fundamental aspects of basketball be so wrong?
NBA 2k11 is significantly ahead of this in regards to all around sim basketball gameplay.
It feels like since 2k11 this franchise takes 2 steps back everytime it steps forward.

It is a shame. I don't think I will play this much. I hardly played 2k16. I think this will get even less time.
2K need to get back to basics instead of focusing on beefing up the bells and whistles at the gameplays expense.

I will move on to PES 2017 for my sports gaming. At least with that game, the actual gameplay is the focus.

[CujoMatty]

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This 4th quarter super CPU has got me to the point where im about to snap. I absolutely dominated the grizzlies for 3 quarters then the 4th comes and no one was covered. Guys running into the paint wide open. I had to basically control the centre and stand under the bucket and that didn't even stop the onslaught. 93% cmon thats just blatant shenanigans.

Im not ragging on this game . Ive been apart of this community for along time and Ive been fair in my impressions. There's alot i like about this game but man this game has been like having a super hot girlfriend with a horrible personality. I wanna like her so bad but deep down she just sucks the life outta me. woosa........ woosa

Edit.... To add insult to injury, on my next game the commentators talked about how i dominated the grizzlies and how they were shocked i gave up the lead. Hahahaha
Uhhhh they shot 93% in the fourth thats how

[CujoMatty]

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I get now why czar said to leave the defensive settings on auto. I got tired of guys getting wide open threes so i changed on ball setting to tight and it turned the game into an even bigger mess. Guys running by their man with ease and the defender absolutely oblivious. Its honestly shocking to me how bad the ai is defensively. To top it off by playing tight, offensive rebounds sky rocketed im assuming because there's no room for a box out animation. Points in the paint went thru the roof as well.
Also i have to ask. Im assuming that some of the updates that have happened are gameplay updates. Is that correct? Im on xbox one so i didn't get the patch yet but ive played 4 games tonight and there is no way its playing the same as it did a few days ago.

[The 24th Letter]

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An online game I played last night put things in perspective.

My opponent would just come down, use nearly the entire shot clock...and just wait until my A.I defense would shift out of position for an easy pass inside. For example, My center would literally be right beside their center, then eventually just swim move out of the way for a path to the basket. Worked the entire first half until I started babysitting my teammates....and sometimes it still worked because I simply cant cover everyone.

It's a shame that a strategy where he was just waiting on my defense to 'break' worked so efficiently. I appreciate all the off ball work that was put in this year and last year...but these little animations are really hurting the A.Is defense. It's a disturbing trend that started last year and has gotten worse. I have never been more frustrated with my A.I teammates than I have this year.

[creweutah]

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2K has a hell of a lot of work to do over the next 4-6 weeks. Im hopeful that they will release a massive gamechanging patch prior to Xmas which will fix all the issues.

[CujoMatty]

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Im going to have one last post on the matter then ill lay it to rest im just really beyond frustrated at this point and im trying to power through. Had a great back and forth game going and i thought awesome way to finish my night but then sure enough my team forgets how to play in the 4th. The CPU just keeps doing crossover after crossover till he gets in the paint or passes it through my defenders who dont even move to a guy under the basket and then if i try and help that mess they kick it to a wide open guy across the whole court. I cant freakin cover 5 guys.
This game out of the box had issues but i could deal. Whatever tuner update is being played now is flat out garbage. Guys getting bumped all the way down the court. The CPU had conley with 4 fouls in the second quarter from all the blocking fouls it was madness. The CPU could flat out do everything i wasn't allowed too. Crossover crossover crossover sometimes Mario running into my defender and not losing the ball meanwhile my guys are stumbling if someone looks at them funny. The CPU constantly whipping the ball in the paint with reckless abandon through 2 guys while i cant even pass it to a guy 2 feet away without it getting tipped. Anyways im starting to beat a dead horse so ill drop it i just really want to like this game but its tough. So sorry guys. My rants are over.

[jayman504]

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Im going to have one last post on the matter then ill lay it to rest im just really beyond frustrated at this point and im trying to power through. Had a great back and forth game going and i thought awesome way to finish my night but then sure enough my team forgets how to play in the 4th. The CPU just keeps doing crossover after crossover till he gets in the paint or passes it through my defenders who dont even move to a guy under the basket and then if i try and help that mess they kick it to a wide open guy across the whole court. I cant freakin cover 5 guys.
This game out of the box had issues but i could deal. Whatever tuner update is being played now is flat out garbage. Guys getting bumped all the way down the court. The CPU had conley with 4 fouls in the second quarter from all the blocking fouls it was madness. The CPU could flat out do everything i wasn't allowed too. Crossover crossover crossover sometimes Mario running into my defender and not losing the ball meanwhile my guys are stumbling if someone looks at them funny. The CPU constantly whipping the ball in the paint with reckless abandon through 2 guys while i cant even pass it to a guy 2 feet away without it getting tipped. Anyways im starting to beat a dead horse so ill drop it i just really want to like this game but its tough. So sorry guys. My rants are over.

LOL looking at the percentages I can tell you weren't LA!! but ya those 4TH Q shooting %'s by the CPU is enough to make you break a controller!!

[MrWrestling3]

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So far in my experience as someone who has only played My Career:

- The CPU can perfectly play super sticky physical defense on me when I have the ball regardless of our respective offensive/defensive/physical ratings, yet often seems to play little to no defense against other CPU players.This has been evident to me even on difficulties as low as Pro.It literally feels like the game is looking at my inputs the second i put them in (AKA "Psychic Defense").

- The CPU seems to be able to bump me off my dribble regardless of our respective ratings and differences in weight; there is once particularly egregious animation the CPU uses frequently where it outright hip checks me.Again this is a common occurrence for me on difficulties as low as Pro

- There are far too many times my player seems to pick up his dribble for no reason; my player has a ball control of 72 and it sometimes happens with no defender near when i am not using turbo, at that level he should be able to do things as fundamental as simply dribbling to a spot without flubbing his dribble.

- Contested shots by the CPU seem to fall at too high of a rate, again this occurs regardless of player ratings and is evident even on Pro difficulty.

- CPU players who by ratings are poor in the post seem to hit post fadeaway shots over much taller defenders at too high a rate.

- There are times when the game literally takes control of my player away from me (ex. My player jumping in the air to foul a shooter on defense when i literally did nothing but put my hands up, becoming stuck in animations where players on the other team literally drag me into the paint and hold me, causing a foul). This feel like a cheap trick the CPU employs whenever it wants to make a run.

- Often times when the other team is down, my team mates will begin to make embarrasing fundamental errors such as not attempting to box out allowing offensive rebounds, wandering out of bounds with the ball,etc. Again, feel like cheap tricks employed by the CPU when it wants to score some points.

- When simulating while on the bench, there is still a problem with somewhat unrealistic results; seems like the sim engine is more interested in "setting up a particular scenario" for me when I come back in than properly simulating the game.

- Issues with how the slider settings vs results on the court; at low difficulty levels scores are super unrealistic (consistently beating other teams by 20+, often scoring 120-130 points on game); higher levels offer a most realistic experience in terms of score but other areas become unrealistic (ex. on all star and superstar it is not uncommon for me to see both teams finishing with 15-20 steals EACH, and 25+ turnovers each as well as cpu players consistently scoring in the 40 point range).

- MyPlayer builds seem to need some balancing....shouldn't a slasher or shot creator be the fastest with the ball, and not playmaking types? Why does it seem you need 17 or more bars in an attribute to have an attribute which is average for your position, shouldn't about 12-14 be roughly average for your position?

- Drills offered in practice often don't make sense for my position (I have a Glass Cleaner; no i do not want to work on my three ball all the time...how about some rebounding or post drills?)

[Chairman7w]

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Jru Holliday just isn't this good guys.

The CPU Jru is God-like. And at the end of quarters or at the end of the Shot-clock? Forget it. Just chalk up 3.

[RNS1hunna]

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Not just the help defense but defense as a whole CPU doesn't follow the offensive player like they're supposed to double team rotations are broken defensively the game isn't up too par along with a lot of other issues that's already been voiced


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[kbandmjallday]

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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS

I just played my team game the guy shot 51 three pointers and made 18 of them and beat me I was up 14 because they weren't going in then in the 3rd quarter everyone went int and my lead was gone. This makes me so mad because I can't time I single jump shot every thing is always "late" SO AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO CANT TIME THERE SHOT


I've never been so made in my entire life over a game I beat both dominations got a decent squad that I worked for I go online I can't even stay in front of anybody


Do I just ****ing suck or is impossible to guard people in this game, its just run around in circle till someone gets open

[LorenzoDC]

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I've spent time before posting anything because I'm not the best stick skills guy and I always give myself some time playing the game to learnthe new mechanics and systems before forming impressions.

The things that stands out to me now, after many 12 minute quarter games offline in MyLeague, is the game is not at all "smooth" the way everyone pre-release said it was, and the way the Prelude felt.

For the user even on All Star, there are just about no interaction animations between offensive players and defenders that are not bumps that knock all movement off kilter. This is true for off ball screens, ball handler interactions with on ball defenders, and players fighting the CPU for position in the post. It looks like bumper cars out there and steals and lost dribble animations are everywhere.

It's a good game, or there is a good game in there. 2K massively failed in deciding not to do communications around all the things Czar and OG put in the game, but even after absorbing that stuff as it dribbles out and we figure stuff out on our own, these issues with movement are pervasive for the user (but not the CPU).

I don't know what happened to all those riding animations and other collision interaction animations put into this game but this feels every bit as clunky with collisions and movement as 2K16 did, maybe even worse.

[GiGAHEART]

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Impressions wise love gameplay itself as it takes patience & timing (i turn shot meter & any HUD for that matter), though it takes awhile to master turnaround shots like KG, MJ, Kobe, Dirk does IRL but QUESTIONS:

1. Its baffling when lastgen guys can EDIT HEADBAND while us PS4 guys cant. On top of that there seems MORE COLORWAY SHOES lastgen as well so what gives?

2. Bodytypes... I only have 2K15 which is IMO graphically superior but in 2k17 why cant ATLEAST devs allow us switch bodytypes?

3. Also you cant CREATE CUSTOM TEAMS outside league mode. PS2 2K games had that. Those were last LAST gen. Right?

4. Bring back QUICKSUB MENU of 2k15 please?

5. Too many bugs yet to be addressed such as someb alternate jerseys only available in MyLeague NOT PlayNow, generic white coach in everygame in timeouts, players shaking or their mouths stutering during closeups, no more player stats preview during loading & no more on mic David Aldridge after 1.03 so when will they fix these?

P.S. Oh & PLEASE put 2015-2016 Kobe & Duncan in FA.


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[shadio5]

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Well I have finally found a way to enjoy the game. I was so desperate that I went back to my NBA 2k16 sliders, and pretty much made them the same as my 2k17 sliders. Now I have my gritty & grimy NBA game back....


Now that I am finally able to play this game. Let me say that 2k17 is pretty enjoyable. The new animations for each superstar brings them to life. They feel like the actual players. Lebron for instance. Hes a official truck now. I did a layup with James and knock down this forward down in front of me for a AND1. And not only did I knock him down, I hurt him. That player paid for being in front of the mack truck. That player had to get taken out of the game for injury......Irvin will have you shook out of your shoes lol. But each game is different for me because of my sliders. I don't get to see much offense in my games because I have my offense way down. Most of the time I'm at the foul line getting points. But when I do make shots in the game, its well worth it. Its worth because its not repetitive for me. And that's what I see when I watch real NBA games.


Only true 3 point shooters make their shots in my game due to my sliders. Real three point shooters like JR smith and steph curry. Everyone else miss every three pointer they put up. I don't know why 2k focused on so many three point attempts this year....


I don't play no other modes like my player or stuff. I'm old school....I hated all those modes when it was first introduced, and I hate them now. I know a patch is going to eventually change something like it always has in the past. I will never forget 2008 2k. They gave us the DEATH patch from hell....I will never forget it


So yeah. I just started playing the game finally. I have to probly step away from the game for a week and come back to it to enjoy the presentation.


Its OK now. I found a way to play. And that's all that matters for now. I will be back

[Soze Mucky]

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in mycareer hall of fame was perfect in 2k16 now its completely unplayable. really annoying because i like playing on the hardest difficulty.