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  • The 24th Letter
    ERA
    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #751
    Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

    Originally posted by fluent2332
    Thanks for the info. Can you answer the LT "positional defense" question?
    LT functions about the same as last year....even exclusively using LT gets you more fouls than in 2K16 though...

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #752
      NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
      Sorry if this has been mentioned, but does anyone else feel like there's way too many and-1's on user vs user games?

      Everything is great, but for me this has been a glaring issue. Way too many conversions, and in general too many foul calls at the rim. Might as well not even use the block button around the rim or else you'll get whistled..

      If anyone can lead me to a solution that would be awesome
      This guy....

      I mean THIS guy just pops up from the grave and comes straight in here, lol

      Hope everything is good, sir
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • ex carrabba fan
        I'll thank him for you
        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #753
        Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        This guy....

        I mean THIS guy just pops up from the grave and comes straight in here, lol

        Hope everything is good, sir
        Pack it's good to see you're still here sir. I hope all is well with you too, 2K brought me back. Might have to start browsing the NBA threads too

        It's truly amazing to see how close OS and 2K are collaborating. Great stuff.. Hopefully someone sees this and decides to make some changes about the and-1's

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        • shadio5
          Pro
          • Jan 2008
          • 793

          #754
          Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

          This is why I love the PC BABY!!!!....MODS


          gave kyle lowry a little haircut so he wont look outdated lol. Kevin Durant is no longer this skinny spider. God I love the PC.


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          • WTF
            MVP
            • Aug 2002
            • 20274

            #755
            Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

            For contesting in the paint off of an offensive rebounding, don't hold LT. Just time your jump with y or triangle. I blocked 3 consecutive offensive boards, til the cpu magically then decided to warp, grab a 4th off board, and suck me out of bounds for an uncontested put back lol. I block a ton of shots in the paint, just have to release the LT.
            Twitter - WTF_OS
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            • stillfeelme
              MVP
              • Aug 2010
              • 2405

              #756
              Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
              LOL, wow two four, now you're a mod eh?

              GOOD STUFF

              Yeah I've been using more discipline in the paint with the right stick, however contesting at the rim is a lot more fun when you can use the jump/block button. Don't get me wrong, foul calls around the rim is totally fine with me.. but it's to the point that you notice the frequency of the and-1's.

              I would cry tears of joy if they decided to address this.

              Has there been other posters saying this?
              I thought they touched it this but no it is way too high the and one success is just too high.

              Mike, please look at the success rates for and one success it is too high. The league average for successful and one conversion from last year regular season is around 20-22 FG%. Means that when you are fouled in the act of shooting most players only shoot that high of%. It goes to about 19FG% or so for perimeter shots like spot ups. The data isn't easy to find but NBA.com has data for each play type post ups, isos pick and roll etc per team and player.

              So they show you total number of possessions % of possessions that result in shooting foul, and % of possessions that are and ones. You convert the % of possessions to attempts and that is how you get the And one FG%


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              • Nodima
                Pro
                • Oct 2007
                • 972

                #757
                Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

                So a few days ago I rallied against interior defense being an issue for the Warriors sans-Durant and Curry, and now that I have them both back I have to say it may have just been an issue of having McCaw and Clark major minutes at the 2 and 3. Those boys are sieves on defense and it's really shown now that Durant and Curry are back, everything feels locked up but whoever they're guarding.

                I still think the default sliders on All-Star are a little too lenient towards the CPU and don't let the user do enough for me to feel comfortable bumping up to Superstar (Superstar is the difficulty I played on every year until 2K15 when suddenly Pro/All-Star felt most natural) but I definitely don't see the big man abuse that I saw in games without my real rotation. It still has me worried about what this game might look like playing with a "normal" team, but unlike the game I posted a couple pages ago where Bender, Chandler and Len toasted me for 70% shooting and I won by a single point, we just played again minus Klay and I won by 25ish (at work so I don't have the box score in front of me) with the expected dudes (Bledsoe, Goodwin, Booker) being the focal point of the offense.

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                • RNS1hunna
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 145

                  #758
                  Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

                  Originally posted by shadio5
                  This is why I love the PC BABY!!!!....MODS


                  gave kyle lowry a little haircut so he wont look outdated lol. Kevin Durant is no longer this skinny spider. God I love the PC.




                  2k should be able to do this they have the same tools at they're disposal


                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                  • Bunselpower32
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 947

                    #759
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

                    So so so glad to read that people are as fed up with this game as I am. I echo every single problem in here as I’ve seen them several times. Something I haven’t seen mentioned as much is the gap between user speed and acceleration and cpu. There are times when the cpu will literally go from a standstill to faster than full speed to the bucket.

                    Also, is it nearly impossible for anyone else to make threes with anyone with less than a 90 rating and at least 2 badges relating to the shot? I get no A+ shot ratings without Durant or curry and nothing ever goes in.

                    You don’t care where I sent this from.
                    "The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws."

                    - Rick Wise

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                    • WISports
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 2058

                      #760
                      Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

                      Popped 2K16 in earlier. Holy man what a difference. Smarter AI. My ball handler doesn't lose the ball every time he gets bumped. Just much more fun overall. And minus the lighting, it looks much better, sadly.

                      I'm really hoping for a huge patch that'll fix a bunch of the stuff that's hurting this game, including body types and skin tones.

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                      • shadio5
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 793

                        #761
                        Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

                        Originally posted by RNS1hunna
                        2k should be able to do this they have the same tools at they're disposal


                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                        2k should hire mod 3D artist to do this for them for free. Something fun where the fans can choose who makes the best art changes. Something to get the fans excited.....


                        Nothing worst than having a outdated look to the players


                        VC/2k sports fan

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                        • emmanuelk1
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 85

                          #762
                          Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

                          - too much foul calls that need to be fix.
                          - the score changes before making the basket
                          - the skating movement players almost floating need to add friction from player to the floor.
                          - its not easy to make a basket which is good coz its more challenging(im playing HOF only)
                          - its way smoother this time especially when making a lay up it looks good.
                          - the assistant coach needs to be remove and put back the substitution in timeout.

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                          • CujoMatty
                            Member of Rush Nation
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 5441

                            #763
                            Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

                            I'm trying so hard to bite my tongue but I just can't. I know a lot of people are liking this game but not only do I not see why it's an absolute utter disaster in my opinion. It's so hard to explain because there's so much here that I love but the game at it's core is a mess and what's really troubling is when it comes to the game play problems it's not even that it's bugged it just really seems like it was programmed poorly.

                            Fundamentally there is so much wrong and even worse, unfair. The CPU has the advantage in so many ways that I'm constantly in awe of how blatant it is. The CPU walks around my defenders at will. They set devastating picks every possession leaving guys wide open. Passes fly into the paint for an easy lay up or worse an and 1 so frequently it's crazy. And what's so unbelievably frustrating is my CPU teammates can't do any of this and even worse have zero awareness to back cuts, picks, switching, the list goes on and on.

                            On defense it's just as bad. The bumping, the psychic defenders jumping in the way of the dribbler , guys intercepting passes with ESP. Defenders reacting to picks before the pick gets there. It's just all over. And again my CPU teammates do none of this.

                            I just really don't get it. Why 2k can't make the game harder based on fundamental basketball is mind boggling . I'm crippled trying to win a race with an anchor strapped to my leg. That's not fun. Not even a little bit

                            Tack on the fact that the game plays different every few days, and I'm still not sure if its because of game play tuners or just game randomness, because the only communication we get is an obtrusive eye sore of a notification telling us to go to the main menu to update our game. Is it a new shoe ?(which coincidentally won't work unless you use a current roster) A 3rd, 4th, 5th, Jersey? A game play tuner? Who knows.

                            I don't even want to tackle the list of non game play issues that exist.

                            Look I see a game that is so deep, that has so many modes, has so many cool features, has a monstrous amount of customization, but it doesn't matter at all when the game play is so messed up. I have had good games that were a lot of fun but the ones that are bad are just unbearable and to be honest even the good games come with having to accept certain shenanigans.
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                            • shadio5
                              Pro
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 793

                              #764
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

                              Originally posted by emmanuelk1
                              - too much foul calls that need to be fix.
                              - the score changes before making the basket
                              - the skating movement players almost floating need to add friction from player to the floor.
                              - its not easy to make a basket which is good coz its more challenging(im playing HOF only)
                              - its way smoother this time especially when making a lay up it looks good.
                              - the assistant coach needs to be remove and put back the substitution in timeout.


                              lol yeah I notice that as well. This lets you know that 2k did not finish this game. There is no reason to show the score before making the basket. I see a huge patch coming very soon.

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                              • zella
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 21

                                #765
                                Re: NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread

                                Originally posted by CujoMatty
                                I'm trying so hard to bite my tongue but I just can't. I know a lot of people are liking this game but not only do I not see why it's an absolute utter disaster in my opinion. It's so hard to explain because there's so much here that I love but the game at it's core is a mess and what's really troubling is when it comes to the game play problems it's not even that it's bugged it just really seems like it was programmed poorly.

                                Fundamentally there is so much wrong and even worse, unfair. The CPU has the advantage in so many ways that I'm constantly in awe of how blatant it is. The CPU walks around my defenders at will. They set devastating picks every possession leaving guys wide open. Passes fly into the paint for an easy lay up or worse an and 1 so frequently it's crazy. And what's so unbelievably frustrating is my CPU teammates can't do any of this and even worse have zero awareness to back cuts, picks, switching, the list goes on and on.

                                On defense it's just as bad. The bumping, the psychic defenders jumping in the way of the dribbler , guys intercepting passes with ESP. Defenders reacting to picks before the pick gets there. It's just all over. And again my CPU teammates do none of this.

                                I just really don't get it. Why 2k can't make the game harder based on fundamental basketball is mind boggling . I'm crippled trying to win a race with an anchor strapped to my leg. That's not fun. Not even a little bit

                                Tack on the fact that the game plays different every few days, and I'm still not sure if its because of game play tuners or just game randomness, because the only communication we get is an obtrusive eye sore of a notification telling us to go to the main menu to update our game. Is it a new shoe ?(which coincidentally won't work unless you use a current roster) A 3rd, 4th, 5th, Jersey? A game play tuner? Who knows.

                                I don't even want to tackle the list of non game play issues that exist.

                                Look I see a game that is so deep, that has so many modes, has so many cool features, has a monstrous amount of customization, but it doesn't matter at all when the game play is so messed up. I have had good games that were a lot of fun but the ones that are bad are just unbearable and to be honest even the good games come with having to accept certain shenanigans.
                                I'm so relieved, that I'm not the only one who feels this way. I really love this game, I had a lot of fun games, but at the moment, everything got worse. These little yellow boxes who tell me to update the game are really confusing. What are they tuning?

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