For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

[FrequencyVibrations]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

people are telling people stop the BS like they are in the living room with them lmao.

implying the park courts are the same dimentions as a NBA one. sharpshooters are EASILY pulling up from the half court mark on the court. i dont need to lie to prove a point. it was easy to do in years before with Limitless range. but now with all the added boost they get in shooting (plus park badges) its laughable. with or without defense.

this is coming from a guy who has a lockdown defender build, and seen people just pull up like im not even there. in 2k17 defense is hit or miss online

I was implying 35 ft period is not where ppl are shooting from in ProAm. Nowhere did i compare a NBA court to a Park court. In Park yes this you can shoot pretty far. I believe people were talking about Pro Am tho. Not park. I didn't say anything about Park. Park on the other hand yes i'd say out there if you know how to shoot its pretty much game over if you're giving a sharpshooter space crossing half court line.

[Celtics4Life]

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All these dudes saying "You just gotta press them as soon as they pass half!", "You just gotta switch off the screen!" , "You just can't give them an inch of room! Come on scrubs!"

Why is this the only archetype that you gotta gameplan specifically around or play airtight D just to partially neurtralize? None of the other archetypes is this punishing. I don't think the game needs to be fully equally balanced but I think it's a bit goofy that I need a fully cohesive team just to contain a Sharpshooter. Play with some randos and it's lights out or even if you got a weaker dude on your team.

The way this game is going is basically telling everyone that made a player to delete start over and pick sharp shooter. They can knock 3s like Curry x10, Dribble like AI, and they can also take it to the hoop and dunk like MJ. So what exactly is the point in making different arch types and having balance? Dunking packages should have only been limited to slasher and athletic finishers and sharp shooters should be the only build type that can hit 3s at a good % but not at these rates. This is straight out murder and now every park you go to there are 2 sharp shooters waiting on got next. You can actually count how limited other arch types are out there.

[KyrieAbuser]

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This is a fun thread. It's like everyone is saying "The sky is blue!" and then all the sharpshooters are saying "Nah, you're just making it blue cause you play bad defense."

Or something like that.

On topic - I'm avoiding park like the plague until it's addressed. If it's not, I just won't play online.

Good one less scrub online, I'm tired of you bums getting killed and crazy to patch the game, I refuse to see this game get ruined like 2k16 because you dudes can't guard something so simple.

[KingW]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

In Park yes this you can shoot pretty far. I believe people were talking about Pro Am tho. Not park. I didn't say anything about Park. Park on the other hand yes i'd say out there if you know how to shoot its pretty much game over if you're giving a sharpshooter space crossing half court line.

You can shoot from quite the insane range in pro-am aswell with a sharpshooter with HOF badges. I was watching a stream of a guy trying to go for 100 points and all he did was shoot way behind the line and greening almost every shot.

x2 Sharpshooter and post scorer setups at park is the only lineup that is incredibly hard to guard. Brick wall screens and then they just walk side to side almost like 2k15. My friend and I know how to switch but with brick wall its just game over. Not to mention if we bring our center up with us to help us cover, it usually leads to easy rebounds for opposite teams center after he gets a speedy roll of his screens.

[ViolenceFight]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

All these dudes saying "You just gotta press them as soon as they pass half!", "You just gotta switch off the screen!" , "You just can't give them an inch of room! Come on scrubs!"

Why is this the only archetype that you gotta gameplan specifically around or play airtight D just to partially neurtralize? None of the other archetypes is this punishing. I don't think the game needs to be fully equally balanced but I think it's a bit goofy that I need a fully cohesive team just to contain a Sharpshooter. Play with some randos and it's lights out or even if you got a weaker dude on your team.

Well, I did offer solutions while it's not fixed, but I agree. It's definitely format warping, and anything that warps a game that bad is unhealthy for it.

This is a balance issue I argued last year when people wanted 3 point % raised. This is exactly what I claimed would happen if they boosted 3s like people wanted. They regulated it to one archetype but it's still format breaking.

I feel like wide open is finr. But Deadeye needs (and has ALWAYS needed) a nerf. Limitless Range needs a nerf if green is automatically a hit this year. Didn't complain last year because nothing was guaranteed, but this year that combines to make the perfect storm.

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[Leasim96]

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Good one less scrub online, I'm tired of you bums getting killed and crazy to patch the game, I refuse to see this game get ruined like 2k16 because you dudes can't guard something so simple.

Like another person said - hardly any archetype forces you to gameplan to the extent of having to laser focus on one player. It's unbalanced regardless of strategy. I think you should stop assuming you are the only one who wants the game to be balanced. If anything you are defending something that is unbalanced. Let's stop thinking everyone here is a scrub at the game because of a game flaw. You are basically saying 2k should never patch anything - it's our fault something is broken. Tell me where is the realism in multiple Currys? Even higher percentages and everything? Same range... Come on.. Hardly any build dominates to that extent and reflects an actual superstar or even surpasses - most builds hardly reach that level.

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[FrequencyVibrations]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

The way this game is going is basically telling everyone that made a player to delete start over and pick sharp shooter. They can knock 3s like Curry x10, Dribble like AI, and they can also take it to the hoop and dunk like MJ. So what exactly is the point in making different arch types and having balance? Dunking packages should have only been limited to slasher and athletic finishers and sharp shooters should be the only build type that can hit 3s at a good % but not at these rates. This is straight out murder and now every park you go to there are 2 sharp shooters waiting on got next. You can actually count how limited other arch types are out there.

Sharpshooters can not dribble like AI and can't dunk like MJ.. It seems like you guys just want this game to be broken. Sharpshooters can't even get driving dunk 70 to unlock Dunk Packages.

[Caelumfang]

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Soooo your suggestions would be to nerf Sharpshooters and/or their shooting? You all do realize that shooting is LITERALLY the only thing they can do, right? Nerfing/taking away their shooting can literally turn that archetype completely useless. You LITERALLY want to take away the ONLY thing they can do?

[Ownal0t]

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thats the one thing i will agree with about watching how most sharpshooters play. Watching them try to create for themselves is LOL. most i see try to dribble like crazy look like kyle korver trying to crossover someone for the first time.

as for the dunks, iirc dont they have a basic dunk package. i havent seen a sharpshooter go over the top with a 360 yet. hell most of my friend's drives ends up being blocked due to how slow he is and etc.


my problem with sharpshooters is how wet they areWITH DEFENSE. and how much worse it gets when they got centers in the park setting illegals screens for them everywhere. this is when people say play better D and what not, switch etc. But lets be real, when you play with randoms or people who tend to have low Ball IQ, stick skill on D (most of 2k) How often does that work out well

[Caelumfang]

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thats the one thing i will agree with about watching how most sharpshooters play. Watching them try to create for themselves is LOL. most i see try to dribble like crazy look like kyle korver trying to crossover someone for the first time.

as for the dunks, iirc dont they have a basic dunk package. i havent seen a sharpshooter go over the top with a 360 yet. hell most of my friend's drives ends up being blocked due to how slow he is and etc.


my problem with sharpshooters is how wet they areWITH DEFENSE. and how much worse it gets when they got centers in the park setting illegals screens for them everywhere. this is when people say play better D and what not, switch etc. But lets be real, when you play with randoms or people who tend to have low Ball IQ, stick skill on D (most of 2k) How often does that work out well

That harks back to before the game came out, when I specifically said that 74 defense was going to prove to be brutal. And I was right.

[coachcolbert]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

That's fine that you disagree, but you haven't explained why you disagree or provided any examples of why they're not OP.

If you, or anyone for that matter believes shooting 70%+ from 35 feet and beyond is ok, there's no point in even having this discussion.

my disagreeing is subjective. im not saying theyre not hitting consisteny from 35ft plus. im saying in my 2k17 experience i have not ran across an unguardable opponent, and i dont see any reason to nerf them because we as a community havent figured out an effective to stop them.

for the record i am not a shooter, im a glass cleaner but once i hit 99ovl i will making a lockdown defender SG to combat the sharpshooters. i LOVE defense in real basketball and 2k. i see it as a challenge rather than an unbalance (just the way i see it - not recommending anyone else have this same view point).

so, i cant give you any statistical rebutal to refute their shooting percentages - you got it. what i am saying is that id rather figure out a way to stop them before saying "2k stop them".

thats all. as ive said, i hear/understand where most of you are coming from - its just that our solutions are different.

[56thDown]

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Man what is this new language y'all got going? What is OP? And what is "ACE"?

[56thDown]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Hold up.

Let me guess, OP= Overpowered?

But what does "Ace" mean?

Why not just say that lol. Got me feeling like a old man.

[FrequencyVibrations]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

thats the one thing i will agree with about watching how most sharpshooters play. Watching them try to create for themselves is LOL. most i see try to dribble like crazy look like kyle korver trying to crossover someone for the first time.

as for the dunks, iirc dont they have a basic dunk package. i havent seen a sharpshooter go over the top with a 360 yet. hell most of my friend's drives ends up being blocked due to how slow he is and etc.


my problem with sharpshooters is how wet they areWITH DEFENSE. and how much worse it gets when they got centers in the park setting illegals screens for them everywhere

I agree. Its difficult for a sharpshooter to create for himself. Very difficult. I said this earlier. A sharpshooter has to have the perfect team around him or he is not scoring. And they cannot dunk too well so idk where ppl are getting the dunking on anyone thing from or dunking like MJ. I think ppl are forgetting you actually have to contest shots on your own this year too. No more holding left trigger and getting the automatic contest. Screens are the key for shooters though as it should be. I feel you on Illegal ones though.

[Thrustie]

Re: For those still saying sharpshooters are not op....

Soooo your suggestions would be to nerf Sharpshooters and/or their shooting? You all do realize that shooting is LITERALLY the only thing they can do, right? Nerfing/taking away their shooting can literally turn that archetype completely useless. You LITERALLY want to take away the ONLY thing they can do?

Nerfing doesn't mean they can't shoot. It means lowering the proficiency.