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  • Tstone77
    Rookie
    • Sep 2016
    • 156

    #31
    Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

    Originally posted by lowsingles
    Again your point is valid if only the 450 best 2k players in the world played against each other. In that case the competition level would be insanely high and 60 percent would be ridiculous. There are millions and millions of 2K players. The real life example would be Curry rolling up into your local Rec center. You arguing that Curry couldn't shoot 60% percent against a team of 5 randomly picked players from anyone who plays basketball on any level worldwide is ridiculous.
    30 or 40 percent tops. Especially if we're talking at a random rec center. You get the top 5 guys from an area and restrict curry to the three. I guarantee he doesn't make that much.

    1.) Alot of Recs(at least the ones I go to) don't play that 2016 softie NBA stuff, so unless he crosses someone he going to have dudes breathing in his carbon dioxide


    2.) Defense is an effort, more than it is a skill. So get some guys motivated and they'll stop him.

    3.) Stop hyping this man!

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    • zeric
      Pro
      • Aug 2016
      • 700

      #32
      Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

      Originally posted by Tstone77
      30 or 40 percent tops. Especially if we're talking at a random rec center. You get the top 5 guys from an area and restrict curry to the three. I guarantee he doesn't make that much.

      1.) Alot of Recs(at least the ones I go to) don't play that 2016 softie NBA stuff, so unless he crosses someone he going to have dudes breathing in his carbon dioxide


      2.) Defense is an effort, more than it is a skill. So get some guys motivated and they'll stop him.

      3.) Stop hyping this man!

      Sent from my LGLS751 using Tapatalk
      Sorry, but you dont think curry could make space on some random guys who were college level at best?

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      • Tstone77
        Rookie
        • Sep 2016
        • 156

        #33
        Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

        Originally posted by zeric
        Sorry, but you dont think curry could make space on some random guys who were college level at best?
        Yes he can make some space but he's still not hitting 60% especially if we get the defensive specialist at the college level. Especially if he's restricted to the three.

        We are talking like a 1v1 scenario right?

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        • ILLSmak
          MVP
          • Sep 2008
          • 2397

          #34
          Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

          Originally posted by lowsingles
          Your point is invalid unless the sharpshooters on 2K are shooting 60% only playing against the top 450 2K players. So you're telling me that if curry played competitively against a pool of randomly assorted high schoolers, college kids, ameteurs, etc. that he couldn't shoot 60%? Please.
          That's sloppy logic because there are only 450 players in the NBA because of their skill level or combination of skill level and athleticism. The players in 2k have all of the tools, some at all time great level.

          Even if they were as dumb as the worst 2k players, a lot of them would still get a shot at the NBA because of how talented they are. And, to be fair, with some real bball coaching, I'm sure even the worst 2k players could be a lot better. Like if someone gave them the body of their 2k player, and skill set, they would probably (except maybe less than 10% of the people who just lack so many things... and I dunno if they are not sober or what) make it to the NBA, or at least get try outs.

          -Smak

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          • Korrupted
            Pro
            • Nov 2015
            • 917

            #35
            Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

            Jesus lol. Every archetype will be useless in a month if post like this keep being made man. Everything is OP nowadays. Are y'all not able to play defense? Playmakers are just as easy to stop as any other position.

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            • lowsingles
              Rookie
              • Dec 2015
              • 186

              #36
              Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

              Originally posted by ILLSmak
              That's sloppy logic because there are only 450 players in the NBA because of their skill level or combination of skill level and athleticism. The players in 2k have all of the tools, some at all time great level.

              Even if they were as dumb as the worst 2k players, a lot of them would still get a shot at the NBA because of how talented they are. And, to be fair, with some real bball coaching, I'm sure even the worst 2k players could be a lot better. Like if someone gave them the body of their 2k player, and skill set, they would probably (except maybe less than 10% of the people who just lack so many things... and I dunno if they are not sober or what) make it to the NBA, or at least get try outs.

              -Smak
              To me attributes don't determine a true overall of the player, it's the man behind the sticks. I'm not saying attributes don't matter at all, but I'm sure the vast majority will say it's the man. Attributes can't give you stick skills, the instincts that come along with playing the game for years, etc. If you want to go the attribute route, I'll tell you that Curry has one HOF badge, and MyPlayers have 5 with around the same 3pt rating. Also, MyPlayers will be guarded by someone with ~70 defensive statistics, while curry is guarded by the other teams best defender every single night.

              Even so, I'll accept your point, because the attributes aren't the main point... It's the preparation. NBA teams have many sleepless nights strategizing schemes on how to stop curry. Not only does every team the Warriors play have a complex defensive scheme planned, but there's a good chance that they have already seen Curry multiple times, and will see him multiple more times. In Pro-Am you have no idea who you're playing and what they are going to throw at you, and all of your adjustments are on the fly. That'll also probably be the first and the last time you see said sharpshooter on said team. Finally, these men are guarding Curry for a living. If you're getting torched in 2K by a sharpshooter, who cares? because there will always be a next game, this isn't the same in the NBA.

              All in all I'm saying is that the lack of progressive fatigue, extensive game planning for specific players, and the overall lack of skill density in 2K compared to the NBA most certainly can account for 15%. This isn't like 2K15 where some people were eclipsing 80 percent; I don't see the need for this nerfing witchhunt with all things considered.

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              • woody56
                Rookie
                • Jun 2007
                • 355

                #37
                Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

                Originally posted by Tstone77
                30 or 40 percent tops. Especially if we're talking at a random rec center. You get the top 5 guys from an area and restrict curry to the three. I guarantee he doesn't make that much.

                1.) Alot of Recs(at least the ones I go to) don't play that 2016 softie NBA stuff, so unless he crosses someone he going to have dudes breathing in his carbon dioxide


                2.) Defense is an effort, more than it is a skill. So get some guys motivated and they'll stop him.

                3.) Stop hyping this man!

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                • redsfan4life
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 2763

                  #38
                  Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

                  Just make every my player completely terrible and cap at 55 ovr. Then ppl will be happy.
                  PSN: Maserati_Bryan17

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                  • Caelumfang
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1218

                    #39
                    Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

                    Originally posted by redsfan4life
                    Just make every my player completely terrible and cap at 55 ovr. Then ppl will be happy.
                    I'm all for it.

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                    • quitdabull
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 157

                      #40
                      Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SpCEuZqqdo8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                      Posterized a few bigs, but like i said my vert is at 94 my shooting is under 60 and i never take jumpers
                      Last edited by quitdabull; 10-02-2016, 01:50 PM.

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                      • EveretteWarren
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 342

                        #41
                        Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

                        At this point I just want them to remove archetypes for the next game. Tired of all these complaints and stuff getting nerfed to the point that the archetype is useless.

                        I miss the old way.

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                        • Bandeazyy
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 207

                          #42
                          Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

                          Originally posted by Tstone77
                          30 or 40 percent tops. Especially if we're talking at a random rec center. You get the top 5 guys from an area and restrict curry to the three. I guarantee he doesn't make that much.

                          1.) Alot of Recs(at least the ones I go to) don't play that 2016 softie NBA stuff, so unless he crosses someone he going to have dudes breathing in his carbon dioxide


                          2.) Defense is an effort, more than it is a skill. So get some guys motivated and they'll stop him.

                          3.) Stop hyping this man!

                          Sent from my LGLS751 using Tapatalk
                          o geez...

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                          • hopoffthiscliff
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 316

                            #43
                            Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

                            Originally posted by DakkoN
                            Show me a video of a Playmaker doing a posterize dunk animation. 2 seasons into my Career and it's not happened yet. Dunking and the big man is free to move and block the shot isn't the same as getting sucked into a posterize animation like a Slasher type can do.
                            As a playmaker I've gotten And 1 dunks on three people

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                            • PhillyIMBlog.com
                              Rookie
                              • May 2016
                              • 382

                              #44
                              Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

                              As a playmaker I run 30 MPH with the ball


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                              • Yesh2kdone
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2015
                                • 1412

                                #45
                                Re: For those still saying playmakers are not op....

                                Originally posted by PhillyIMBlog.com
                                As a playmaker I run 30 MPH with the ball


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                                But only 25mph without it?

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