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  • WISports
    Banned
    • Jun 2013
    • 2058

    #46
    Re: Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and M

    This is good news. I'm hoping the "more" means body types being fixed. Because if they aren't, I'm probably done with 2K17.

    Hopefully this patch doesn't mess other stuff up in the process.

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    • BlueNOrangeSkies
      Just started!
      • Sep 2013
      • 4

      #47
      Why screw with the shot meter? Can't you just tune down some players 3 point ratings, like Miles Leonard going 8-10 from the 3 point the other day on me. Lol. But I feel you can actually compete using different teams against GS and CLE. But 2K might screw this up now.

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      • BlueNOrangeSkies
        Just started!
        • Sep 2013
        • 4

        #48
        And if Madden can make it where you never play against the same team you choose on h2h, I'm sure that 2k can do the same as well. They need to fix this asap because I'm tired of playing the same team I'm using.

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        • sactown_13
          Pro
          • Nov 2011
          • 479

          #49
          Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
          I have to ask. Is the shooting really that ridiculous on the PS4???

          I'm a XB1 user.
          In MyPark it gets pretty ridiculous if you run into the right players. Especially if they use a park card. I wish they would tone the effectiveness of those cards or just remove them all together
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          • Nukleopatra
            Banned
            • Oct 2009
            • 381

            #50
            Re: Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and M

            Originally posted by Trackball
            Now the question becomes...

            CPU defenders leaving guys wide open in the paint. Is this one of the defensive issues being fixed? Smoove did a video on this, as you probably know by now.

            I hate having to put Sam Pham's defensive settings in manually every game.
            I sure as hell hope so.

            If they release a ''fix'' on defense, and this isn't one of the issues fixed, it's time to give up.

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            • Smirkin Dirk
              All Star
              • Oct 2008
              • 5170

              #51
              Re: Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and M

              Cool. Im having blast with the game and it can only be helped by minor improvements.
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              • jfsolo
                Live Action, please?
                • May 2003
                • 12965

                #52
                Re: Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and M

                It's never going to happen of course, but looking at Mike's twitter, it's more clear than ever that there really should be at least 2 different 2K basketball games.

                In so many people's mind, 90+ 3pt shooting ratings, plus badges, means that 80%+ shooting on open three pointers should be a normal thing.

                They couldn't care less about actual NBA statistical norms, they want superhuman video game abilities to rule the day.

                I think the NBA 2K fandom is exponentially worse than the Madden fandom in this regard. Not even taking into account the flaws that occur when implementing various gameplay systems, tuning for the 2K customer base is beyond nightmarish.
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                • Sports fanantic
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1012

                  #53
                  Re: Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and M

                  Wonder if the constant Double team in MyCareer will be fix soon.
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                  • Black Bruce Wayne
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 1459

                    #54
                    Originally posted by jfsolo
                    It's never going to happen of course, but looking at Mike's twitter, it's more clear than ever that there really should be at least 2 different 2K basketball games.

                    In so many people's mind, 90+ 3pt shooting ratings, plus badges, means that 80%+ shooting on open three pointers should be a normal thing.

                    They couldn't care less about actual NBA statistical norms, they want superhuman video game abilities to rule the day.

                    I think the NBA 2K fandom is exponentially worse than the Madden fandom in this regard. Not even taking into account the flaws that occur when implementing various gameplay systems, tuning for the 2K customer base is beyond nightmarish.
                    Exactly sir. This will never change. What you just wrote, only a few people here will agree with and that number is getting lower. The sim guys who make this site are fading away. Its becoming more a arcade mentality everyday

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                    • EarvGotti
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2249

                      #55
                      Re: Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and M

                      Mike can you confirm that the pass speeds and defensive fixes will come in a tuner update too and not a patch?
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                      • IronWolverine2k
                        Just started!
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 2

                        #56
                        Can we get a fix for online matchmaking? The duplicate team matchups are annoying. I hate picking the Knicks only to matched up with another opponent who picked the Knicks also for example. Or at least give us the option to back out of the menu if we find ourselves in that situation....

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                        • ksuttonjr76
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 8662

                          #57
                          Re: Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and M

                          Originally posted by jfsolo
                          It's never going to happen of course, but looking at Mike's twitter, it's more clear than ever that there really should be at least 2 different 2K basketball games.

                          In so many people's mind, 90+ 3pt shooting ratings, plus badges, means that 80%+ shooting on open three pointers should be a normal thing.

                          They couldn't care less about actual NBA statistical norms, they want superhuman video game abilities to rule the day.

                          I think the NBA 2K fandom is exponentially worse than the Madden fandom in this regard. Not even taking into account the flaws that occur when implementing various gameplay systems, tuning for the 2K customer base is beyond nightmarish.
                          Makes me wonder what Madden players complain about that's consider "sim", but the arcade people are like "Learn how to play.".

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                          • twebb5896
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                            • Jun 2013
                            • 218

                            #58
                            Re: Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and M

                            Originally posted by WISports
                            This is good news. I'm hoping the "more" means body types being fixed. Because if they aren't, I'm probably done with 2K17.

                            Hopefully this patch doesn't mess other stuff up in the process.
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                            • TyHay822
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 30

                              #59
                              Any chance they're going to update the fatigue issues at halftime in myGM? There's no reason guys should come out for the second half without regaining any energy compared to how they ended the first half. It makes the gameplay completely unrealistic.

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                              • ViolenceFight
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2013
                                • 1141

                                #60
                                Re: Fixes Coming For NBA 2K17 Shot Timing, Pass Speeds, Moving Screens, Defense and M

                                So I guess I'll weigh in.

                                First, I saw this coming as soon as they announced the fix. I figured they'd put a band aid on, and take it off once the antiseptic came out (the patch/meter fix).

                                My only concern is it'll nerf my off dribble shooting with my slasher, as I grinded to add some outside Hotspot locations and badges to my arsenal. Fun fact, Currently step back 3s have been wet for me.

                                If they get nerfed, I'll live. The tone down will fix a major issue which is the shooting online. And yes, for the guys about to say it, they SHOULD separate online and offline. I know. Don't flood me with replies saying that. I'm acknowledging now.

                                The amount of silly shots that drop are astounding. I don't mean squared up, wide open shots. I don't mean limitless range threes(Which I'm fine with, surprisingly). I mean the running through screens, off balance, hand in your face BS that I see. I wouldn't care if it was a once every few games thing, or a guy was hot. If I let the guy get going, it's my fault. But this is consistent. Too consistent. Teams winning with 7/8 from 3 in park, While my team is running the best switch defense possible.

                                A lot of people think all park players want is NBA Jam. No. I personally want flashy basketball that is still grounded in reality. They can do crazy roll on the ground dribbles, or 360 double windmill dunks. I don't care as long as 1. A human can do it, and 2. The game is still grounded as "Good basketball wins".

                                Currently the "Good basketball wins" has been a Rollercoaster. It was better in 2k14, dropped in 15, re appeared towards the tail end of 16, and existed briefly in 17. I'm not saying one man shouldn't abuse his mismatch, but kids with no IQ hitting shots that have no business hitting the rim, must less splashing home is an issue. Reward good basketball.

                                Skill is a combination of stick skills and IQ. If you can green every jumpshot, that's not skill, that's muscle memory. Skill is knowing that coming off the baseline cut, you have just enough time to turn, fire, and green it. Skill is knowing that you can pump, pass out, take 3 steps and get it back to fire.

                                It's both. It's not skill to do dribble moves. It's skill to do the exact sequence to blow by a whole team because you correctly read the way the defense would set up. You can't make the play without the stick control. You can't make the play without the anticipation and reading skill. You need both.

                                I think a lot of people don't understand that skill runs deeper than the call of duty definition here. That's why this discussion gets toxic quick. Everyone is "The best". And no one can accept that they might be bad at something. This breeds ideology like: "The game is broken, I'm not taking bad shots". Or "I'm just good, it's your fault for not knowing defense".

                                This street goes both ways, don't get me wrong. But the common thing I've encountered is kids and adults who don't know anything about basketball other than put the ball through the net and Kobe. These are the guys that have 6 TOs, but scored 7 to your 5 and think they are superior.

                                It's hard to balance both, and in fact you cannot have both. Not online. And that brings us back to square one. I'm at a loss for a solution.

                                Just thoughts on the matter
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