When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

[torpidbeaver]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

They are "competitve" because of a GLORIFIED ONLINE RANKINGS, definitely & absolutely NOT for the realism, authenticity & immersive simulation of NBA basketball.

And nobody had brought this specific, possible solution UNTIL I did.

You're right, you're the first person to ever want the 2K team to tell us what they updated. Or to want separate updates for online and offline. Or to want MORE SIM IN MAH BASKETBALL.

But wait... people play online for all sorts of reasons, including enjoying Online leagues with their friends. Which would be competitive basketball outside the boundaries of GLORIFIED ONLINE RANKINGS.

Or, yeah, everyone who plays online is a 13-year-old Dub-baller who only cares about rankings and DJ Snoop Lion's sic beats. Obvious troll is obvious.

[CaseIH]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

..because this is a big deal.

HUGE.

Devs of 2K, believe it or not, there 2 kinds of 2k players:

1. OFFLINE GUYS ("Old School") - Guys who wanna have realistic, immersive & authentic NBA simulated experience just like watching actual NBA games. Guys who play with real life friends / family at home. Guys who dont care about VC, like, at all. Guys who wanna customize & edit rosters, teams, etc. fully without annoyances & constraints just like previous gens. Guys who care more if the NBA2K game has depth into it like core gameplay & customization.

2. ONLINE GUYS ("Dudebros") - These guys mostly care about stats on the online leaderboard & have cash for VC. They generally dont care about actual gameplay & depth, they just wanna improve their online notoriety. Bragging right guys, if you will.

So, since I started as PS1 guy & NBA fan since KG T-Wolf era, I fall on the 1st category. I KNOW IF GAME, NOT JUST 2K GAMES, IS WORTH IT OR NOT. For sure guys like me would agree in this, because we're experience for literal 4 gens of gaming now & we see it coming a mile away without internet reviews help (before EGM reviews).

What ticks me off with the latest update 1.04 on PS4 is it feels it caters towards more online guys. Since this update, as I play CPU, they DO NOT MISS AND-1s & close shots. At all. Try it, youll see.

And personally since day 1 I never had issues with layups & whatever because I TURN ALL HUD OFF, including shot meter, NEVER NEEDED IT, NEVER WILL.

It is infuriating that 2K breaks the offline systems of the game to favor online guys.

Why cant 2K do COMPLETELY SEPARATE UPDATES for both offline & online guys? How is this acceptable? The only positive thing 1.04 brought was stats in loading screen & David Aldridge, which is mind you, ON-DISC ALREADY. But we all gotta download ANOTHER 7 GB of patch because online guys cant sort themselves out.

First it was the Dream Team issue, then the NEW JERSEYS & SHOES DOES NOT UPDATE YOUR CUSTOM ROSTER prior to 1.03 (which came 3 weeks since tipoff so obviously some of us already edited our rosters) because it is not coded in the game itself but thru patches, then you still see the NAMELESS GENERIC COACH every timeout huddle & now they are literally splitting the NBA2K community.

Just SMH, man.


*~*

Been playing sports video games since the 1st Atari release, and while much has changed for the better, some things, remain the same, which is your never going to directly simulate real life basketball in a video game. Im old school, and I want as realistic as it can get, and while I thought this yrs game right out of the box might be the closest they had ever come, things seem to have taken a turn for the worse, with patches and roster update tweakings. Sometime I think the roster updates tweakings tend to have negative effect on gameplay, but maybe its my imagination. Regardless game doesnt play as well as it did day1.
I do think the online crybabies tend to cause the devs to tinker with things to the point of ruining the game. Im sure there are a lot of onliners who want realism as much as us old offline Association guys, but unfortunately there is also a ton of whiny little bitches that play online, and sadly I think they outnumber everyone who actually wants a true simulation.
Maybe Im just getting old, but Ive lost a ton of interest the past couple years in sports video games, too the point of wondering if its even worth me owning a PS4. Or maybe its the game for all their wonders in graphics and such, that they have taken a step back to the point of its no fun any longer trying to tinker with sliders to get the game to simulate that sport. What ever it is, my gaming interest seems to have changed to OOTP, wish a good basketball text sim would come out, and spending time playing a game called Farming Simulator on my PC which IRL is what Ive done my whole life, born and raised. Maybe we just after all these years of video games expect them to be farther along in the realism area of things, and were asking to much, I dont know, but Im close to being done with the video games.

[emmanuelk1]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

..because this is a big deal.

HUGE.

Devs of 2K, believe it or not, there 2 kinds of 2k players:

1. OFFLINE GUYS ("Old School") - Guys who wanna have realistic, immersive & authentic NBA simulated experience just like watching actual NBA games. Guys who play with real life friends / family at home. Guys who dont care about VC, like, at all. Guys who wanna customize & edit rosters, teams, etc. fully without annoyances & constraints just like previous gens. Guys who care more if the NBA2K game has depth into it like core gameplay & customization.

2. ONLINE GUYS ("Dudebros") - These guys mostly care about stats on the online leaderboard & have cash for VC. They generally dont care about actual gameplay & depth, they just wanna improve their online notoriety. Bragging right guys, if you will.

So, since I started as PS1 guy & NBA fan since KG T-Wolf era, I fall on the 1st category. I KNOW IF GAME, NOT JUST 2K GAMES, IS WORTH IT OR NOT. For sure guys like me would agree in this, because we're experience for literal 4 gens of gaming now & we see it coming a mile away without internet reviews help (before EGM reviews).

What ticks me off with the latest update 1.04 on PS4 is it feels it caters towards more online guys. Since this update, as I play CPU, they DO NOT MISS AND-1s & close shots. At all. Try it, youll see.

And personally since day 1 I never had issues with layups & whatever because I TURN ALL HUD OFF, including shot meter, NEVER NEEDED IT, NEVER WILL.

It is infuriating that 2K breaks the offline systems of the game to favor online guys.

Why cant 2K do COMPLETELY SEPARATE UPDATES for both offline & online guys? How is this acceptable? The only positive thing 1.04 brought was stats in loading screen & David Aldridge, which is mind you, ON-DISC ALREADY. But we all gotta download ANOTHER 7 GB of patch because online guys cant sort themselves out.

First it was the Dream Team issue, then the NEW JERSEYS & SHOES DOES NOT UPDATE YOUR CUSTOM ROSTER prior to 1.03 (which came 3 weeks since tipoff so obviously some of us already edited our rosters) because it is not coded in the game itself but thru patches, then you still see the NAMELESS GENERIC COACH every timeout huddle & now they are literally splitting the NBA2K community.

Just SMH, man.


*~*

You're right, you're the first person to ever want the 2K team to tell us what they updated. Or to want separate updates for online and offline. Or to want MORE SIM IN MAH BASKETBALL.

But wait... people play online for all sorts of reasons, including enjoying Online leagues with their friends. Which would be competitive basketball outside the boundaries of GLORIFIED ONLINE RANKINGS.

Or, yeah, everyone who plays online is a 13-year-old Dub-baller who only cares about rankings and DJ Snoop Lion's sic beats. Obvious troll is obvious.

meennn stop with this BS you know well you can play exibhition modes with that if you just want to play with friends you just tryin to find a way to answer back.

[jfsolo]

Re: When updating 2K has to be CLEAR & PRECISE IF ITS OFFLINE or ONLINE FIXES...

...What ever it is, my gaming interest seems to have changed to OOTP, wish a good basketball text sim would come out, and spending time playing a game called Farming Simulator on my PC which IRL is what Ive done my whole life, born and raised...

Have you tried the Draft Day Pro Basketball and Draft Day College Basketball text sims by Wolverine Studios? I've just started playing them in the last few months and think that they are great. Download the demo for DD PB 17 and see if you like it.