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  • cmebfresh
    Pro
    • Jan 2011
    • 930

    #436
    Re: Next NBA 2K17 Patch to fix roster update issue, Pro-AM & More

    Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
    Whoa. What did I cause?

    For those who've paid careful attention to what I've wrote (not that anyone should), Im rarely disagreeing with you. I've seen the bugs you have. Just not as often. What I have done is discuss the plentiful improvements about this game which are always overlooked at this time.

    Im sharing what Ive seen, and I don't have this entirely negative view of the game. That seems to have attracted people's ire, which puzzles me. I think if you don't have that confirmation bias, you will not looking for every little negative. Ill be watching the Mavs game in 45 minutes and I promise you I will see some dumb things.

    This notion that people who have positive 2K experiences are fanboys is rubbish. The notion that people who have positive 2K experiences arent sim heads is rubbish. I watch 2-3 full games on my ILP every night. Don't believe me? Cool, why would I care about convincing you? I was the first to video catalogue how the physicality hurts the running of some plays. I told OG how the CPU doubles off good shooters one pass away too often.

    What I have objected to is hyperbolic statements like "This game is broken", or "The devs are lazy" or "This is NA Jam".

    In regards to sliders, Ive posted numerous times. I don't believe there is a magic roster set or slider file. It's entirely dependent on the individual. I stopped using others' years ago. Here's a few general tips. And keep in mind Im not scientific about this and not everything works for everyone. And as I keep saying, I play exclusively ML.

    Ive lowered CPU on ball D and the body up sensitivity sliders right down. This opens the game up. Ive boosted the CPU attack the basket slider. Ive increased their dunk tendency and contest shot tendency. Ive bumped up the CPU def and off awareness and consistency. I started editing my slider set from HOF so I get the full benefits of ACE. Benefits which I've posted numerous times, but people seem to ignore or dismiss. The rest are fairly standard.

    In terms of my roster it's been edited in game mode so I can't export it. I focused on a few things. I lowered the close shot tendency of heaps of players so you don't see those stupid 7 foot jumpers. I lowered the pull up tendency for slow teams so I see big differences in pace. Ive posted screenies as evidence. I boosted the oop pass tendency of most PG's to create that weapon. I edited lots of players play types to get them playing the way I want. I made lots of individual edits. There was no golden rule, a few players were given tendencies to do too many things. e.g. nonshooting bigs with eurosteps and pull up tendencies etc.

    Ive got the game playing the way I want. Is it perfect? Hell no. Is it a fun sim experience? Hell yes. For me, it is. For you, maybe/maybe not. I put heaps of vids on my channel to show how smooth the gameplay can be. There's heaps more I can put on, but don't have the time.

    And to the posters being very snarky towards anyone who is enjoying the game. Who would you rather be? The simheads enjoying their NBA game, or the ones being frustrated by it?

    Now, it's time to go and see how many ways my IRL Mavs can find to leave Lillard and McCollum wide open.
    Wow Dirk i think you won
    "Sometimes i sit and piss myself" - Quote Cmebfresh

    MIAMI ALL THE WAY

    MIAMI HEAT
    MIAMI DOLPHINS
    MIAMI MARLINS
    AND THE U

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    • Smirkin Dirk
      All Star
      • Oct 2008
      • 5170

      #437
      Re: Next NBA 2K17 Patch to fix roster update issue, Pro-AM & More

      Originally posted by LorenzoDC
      I appreciate the response. I imagine you can appreciate how much those who wish to replicate your experience might find that response insufficient and unhelpful.
      What would you like me to do?
      2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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      • cmebfresh
        Pro
        • Jan 2011
        • 930

        #438
        Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Coming Soon, Fixes Roster Update Issue, Pro-Am & More

        Anyway, Sim world Audio Presentation sliders are A1. They make the game sound great.
        "Sometimes i sit and piss myself" - Quote Cmebfresh

        MIAMI ALL THE WAY

        MIAMI HEAT
        MIAMI DOLPHINS
        MIAMI MARLINS
        AND THE U

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        • GR5Noles
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 1255

          #439
          Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Coming Soon, Fixes Roster Update Issue, Pro-Am & More

          Originally posted by cmebfresh
          Anyway, Sim world Audio Presentation sliders are A1. They make the game sound great.
          link? por favor

          or are you just using the ones from last year

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          • NoLeafClover
            Rookie
            • Feb 2016
            • 408

            #440
            Re: Next NBA 2K17 Patch to fix roster update issue, Pro-AM & More

            Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
            Im critiquing the game; I must be the worst employee in the world.

            Ill remind you again; I'd rather be the person enjoying their sim experience than the one who's embittered enough to attack other posters.

            Perhaps you should put me on ignore.
            The problem we have with yourself and people taking the same stance is that, because you have your own little corner of 2K that you play which is one of the only game modes where you can actually adjust sliders and have a modicum of control over how the game plays, doesn't mean the rest of us who try to enjoy ALL game modes are automatically just negative nancies who like to whine.

            I play Play Now Online, MyTeam, Pro AM, My Park and MyCareer and I can definitely tell you that there are SIGNIFICANT issues with the gameplay that we who play these game modes can NOT tweak. And yes, fundamental gameplay and presentation bugs in these modes does make them feel broken in a number of ways.

            Yet we just get dismissed as trolls, haters etc etc. despite documenting all the flaws clearly. I almost never complained about anything in 2K16 or 15 other than the terrible transition defense, and those games were the best experiences in basketball gaming I've had in recent memory.

            I am very happy that your portion of the game that you can adjust to your liking satisfies you, but it's no reason to turn a blind eye to everything else that is wrong.

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            • LorenzoDC
              MVP
              • Sep 2010
              • 1857

              #441
              Re: Next NBA 2K17 Patch to fix roster update issue, Pro-AM & More

              Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
              What would you like me to do?
              Most of all I'd like you to take care of you and not cave to people here who might have a target on you. I for one am not your enemy.

              Speaking purely selfishly as one who has put more than 300 hours in this game without having played it in 2 weeks, I'd like to know numerical specifics on how I might replicate your experience and enjoy the game I've long loved but now abandoned.

              You can see what I've done to try to share, specifically, what I've discovered to help others enjoy the game as is. Maybe do that kind of thing? Share the wealth?
              Last edited by LorenzoDC; 11-04-2016, 10:58 PM.

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              • Smirkin Dirk
                All Star
                • Oct 2008
                • 5170

                #442
                Re: Next NBA 2K17 Patch to fix roster update issue, Pro-AM & More

                Originally posted by NoLeafClover
                The problem we have with yourself and people taking the same stance is that, because you have your own little corner of 2K that you play which is one of the only game modes where you can actually adjust sliders and have a modicum of control over how the game plays, doesn't mean the rest of us who try to enjoy ALL game modes are automatically just negative nancies who like to whine.
                Do you know how many times I have said "I play exclusively as a ML player...". I say this constantly. I make no attempt to speak for anything other than the mode I play.

                And I can't see anyone has called you troll, *****, negative nancy. The fact Im having to justify to multiple posters (some of whom are becoming abusive and rude) having a positive experience should indicate it is not you that is being unfairly criticised.
                2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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                • jax01
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 136

                  #443
                  Re: Next NBA 2K17 Patch to fix roster update issue, Pro-AM & More

                  Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
                  Do you know how many times I have said "I play exclusively as a ML player...".
                  I think that sums it up of why your experiences are better with this game. Your opinion is based on a really limited sample size that doesn't factor in mycareer or online modes.

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                  • cmebfresh
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 930

                    #444
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Coming Soon, Fixes Roster Update Issue, Pro-Am & More

                    Originally posted by GR5Noles
                    link? por favor

                    or are you just using the ones from last year
                    Its in his roster thread, in the spreadsheet.
                    "Sometimes i sit and piss myself" - Quote Cmebfresh

                    MIAMI ALL THE WAY

                    MIAMI HEAT
                    MIAMI DOLPHINS
                    MIAMI MARLINS
                    AND THE U

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                    • Smirkin Dirk
                      All Star
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5170

                      #445
                      Re: Next NBA 2K17 Patch to fix roster update issue, Pro-AM & More

                      Originally posted by LorenzoDC

                      You can see what I've done to try to share, specifically, what I've discovered to help others enjoy the game as is. Maybe do that kind of thing? Share the wealth?
                      You've been fantastic for the community.

                      The sliders I told you are the only ones I changed by more than 5 ticks. (shooting success sliders are purely user determined). Most are at default values.

                      I think the roster Im using is giving me a good experience. And there is no way I can export that from within the ML mode. If there is, please let me know.
                      2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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                      • Smirkin Dirk
                        All Star
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5170

                        #446
                        Re: Next NBA 2K17 Patch to fix roster update issue, Pro-AM & More

                        Originally posted by jax01
                        I think that sums it up of why your experiences are better with this game. Your opinion is based on a really limited sample size that doesn't factor in mycareer or online modes.
                        Ive never suggested otherwise.

                        But there is no requirement for people who want to say "This game sucks. Devs are lazy. NBA Jam" to go into specific detail on why they hold the opinion they do. The constant comment that "ACE is broken" is a really loaded comment that needs a lot of unpacking. But it's taken uncritically around here.

                        Ive been clearer than anyone about what Im playing.
                        2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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                        • LorenzoDC
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1857

                          #447
                          Re: Next NBA 2K17 Patch to fix roster update issue, Pro-AM & More

                          Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
                          You've been fantastic for the community.

                          The sliders I told you are the only ones I changed by more than 5 ticks. (shooting success sliders are purely user determined). Most are at default values.

                          I think the roster Im using is giving me a good experience. And there is no way I can export that from within the ML mode. If there is, please let me know.
                          Forgive me, I haven't shared and customized rosters. But I think that's possible to do, yes?

                          Thanks for the compliment, by the way. Others have done more but I'm not into #humblebrag. I just want to experience the game you experience. If we knew each other personally and you could help me get there, could you show me how?

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                          • Smirkin Dirk
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5170

                            #448
                            Re: Next NBA 2K17 Patch to fix roster update issue, Pro-AM & More

                            Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                            Forgive me, I haven't shared and customized rosters. But I think that's possible to do, yes?

                            Thanks for the compliment, by the way. Others have done more but I'm not into #humblebrag. I just want to experience the game you experience. If we knew each other personally and you could help me get there, could you show me how?
                            Im not sure Ive been clear. I edited a roster with proper sig shots. Then I went into ML and edited player tendencies/attributed within that league. If I could share that, I would. But it doesnt let you export rosters from within a mode.

                            I then played 10ish games and decided on a few things I'd like to fix/improve. (More CPU drives, more CPU dunks and blocks, less close jumpers, more CPU oops. I made bad defenders badder, and slow defenders slower, reducing pull up in transition for slow teams and bigs, bigs who can't eurostep etc). I paid special attention to the best 8-10 players on every roster, because that's where the action is.

                            The rest is just personal preference. From my hazy recollection, Reggie Jackson (it may not have been him) has 3 play types- PNR point, mid range and 3 point. Nah I want him playing exclusively out of the PNR., so I got rid of those last 2 play types. I played the Pistons and got what I wanted. He abused me out of the PNR. This is an eample of what I do to every team.

                            There's no secret. It's just going through and adjusting to what you want.
                            2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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                            • fluent2332
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1735

                              #449
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Coming Soon, Fixes Roster Update Issue, Pro-Am & More

                              You might as well work for 2K, Smirkin Dirk. Not because you defend them or anything, but because you spend so much time tweaking the game!

                              I'm a fan of giving players sliders to use, but man, I could never spend that amount of time tweaking sliders.

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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #450
                                Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Coming Soon, Fixes Roster Update Issue, Pro-Am & More

                                Originally posted by fluent2332
                                You might as well work for 2K, Smirkin Dirk. Not because you defend them or anything, but because you spend so much time tweaking the game!

                                I'm a fan of giving players sliders to use, but man, I could never spend that amount of time tweaking sliders.
                                Man this is OS.

                                This isnt even the most extensive edit I've heard today, lol

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