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  • ph33
    MVP
    • Oct 2014
    • 3261

    #331
    Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

    Originally posted by KAJP
    deadeye is a late close out badge, not a contested shot badge. I don't play in park or pro-am, but a late closing defender shouldn't smash shot grade down down to d's & f's if you have HoF deadeyes and 99 contested shot rating.
    Maybe not a D and F, but as I've said before it really depends. We can't tell people to get better at defense and in the same breath, complain about not being powerful enough when you do get defended. As I've said I want to see specific examples if people think it's being nerfed because everyone's definition of a good one is different. A sharpshooter is there to help space the floor and create easier opportunities for everyone else and I see a lot of them out there not playing the right way, mostly due to overdribbling.

    We get our shooters curling off screens or get them good shots from team ball movement and when they're open, they're open. I know what you mean by late contest as opposed to full on contest, but we shouldn't accept that it's a good shot just because ratings say so...there are many different times where I see a contest coming but the shooter takes it anyways, when the better play was to be patient and hunt for a better shot. Or shot fake, one dribble in for a stop and pop.

    Some games they shoot like *** but most games they don't. The way it's supposed to be. I know you didn't mean it this literally, but having a contested shot rating in the 90s doesn't mean you hit them at the same rate as a you do a good open shot. When I see my teammates take it like that and make it I never say "good shot" it's more "we got bailed out by the badges there".

    At the end of the day I hope they get rid of the badges. I don't like it when relentless finishers drive, miss a contested layup, and wonder why relentless finisher is broken. Or when a shot creator takes a contested moving shot and wonders why hall of fame mid range dead eye didn't work. Yes nba players make those shots but you'll never see a coach saying "yeah that's what I want from my offense", plus those aren't supposed to go in as much so it's bizarre when I see panic after two contested misses in a game. Anything to promote better teamwork is good by me.
    Last edited by ph33; 12-12-2016, 11:35 AM.

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    • KAJP
      Banned
      • Dec 2016
      • 41

      #332
      Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

      Originally posted by ph33
      Maybe not a D and F, but as I've said before it really depends. We can't tell people to get better at defense and in the same breath, complain about not being powerful enough when you do get defended. As I've said I want to see specific examples if people think it's being nerfed because everyone's definition of a good one is different. A sharpshooter is there to help space the floor and create easier opportunities for everyone else and I see a lot of them out there not playing the right way, mostly due to overdribbling.

      We get our shooters curling off screens or get them good shots from team ball movement and when they're open, they're open. I know what you mean by late contest as opposed to full on contest, but we shouldn't accept that it's a good shot just because ratings say so...there are many different times where I see a contest coming but the shooter takes it anyways, when the better play was to be patient and hunt for a better shot. Or shot fake, one dribble in for a stop and pop.

      Some games they shoot like *** but most games they don't. The way it's supposed to be. I know you didn't mean it this literally, but having a contested shot rating in the 90s doesn't mean you hit them at the same rate as a you do a good open shot. When I see my teammates take it like that and make it I never say "good shot" it's more "we got bailed out by the badges there".

      At the end of the day I hope they get rid of the badges. I don't like it when relentless finishers drive, miss a contested layup, and wonder why relentless finisher is broken. Or when a shot creator takes a contested moving shot and wonders why hall of fame mid range dead eye didn't work. Yes nba players make those shots but you'll never see a coach saying "yeah that's what I want from my offense", plus those aren't supposed to go in as much so it's bizarre when I see panic after two contested misses in a game. Anything to promote better teamwork is good by me.
      I would take video for you to highlight it, but to be honest, I only play on HoF, and having a defender stuck to my side for 95% of the time i'm on the court has realy killed this career, especially when at the same time my own team mates just leave anyone open to shoot. CPU can obviously run a defensive scheme where the best shooter is shadowed to the point of making it painful, so it should be able to stop leaving the best shooters open for the other team. With that in mind, I can't face playing anymore of that save unfortunately. It's just a slog of a save to play, even though I win every game.

      I wasn't saying that those ratings should cover up the sins of bad players with the 99 comment, but it sure as hell imo shouldn't kill that attribute/badge combo. I don't think it's a coincidence that these fixes have been implemented at the time that euro pro-am is starting. 2k don't want this mode being shown as just a terrible shots contest till someone wins. I get that, I really do. But you can't give us these archetypes, which give us one set of skills, and one set only (whichever one we choose), then a few months later, take out major parts of the armoury. If the guys at 2k didn't see what the issues would be with such a system before going ahead and implementing it, then thats a company issue, not a user issue. Anyone with half a brain could work out the game would consist of sharpshooters hiding behind screens and jacking up shots. What I will say about contested shooting, is that 2k hasn't yet found out how to make it work realistically. 2k gave us the attributes and badges to be the best shooters (contested or otherwise) of all time, yet look at the contested shots the pro's make on a nightly basis playing on real life Hof difficulty.



      I agree completely with what you say about people taking bad shots, but then park and pro am are just a mashup of people spamming the same dribble moves and taking terrible shots, which is why I don't bother with those modes.

      I expect the game will be relaxed again after rttf is finished.

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      • ph33
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 3261

        #333
        Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

        Ah, ok I wasn't aware you were mostly offline MyCareer. Agree with your points---and it's been said a bunch by many here, I really hope they separate offline and online for many of the reasons you mentioned.

        Pro AM is a great mode if you play with teammates who will communicate and work together for the best result :-)

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        • ruxpinke
          Pro
          • Apr 2008
          • 908

          #334
          Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

          Im enjoying Park where it is right now, for the most part smarter play is being rewarded accordingly, seeing a lot less WTF shots going in. movement feels good as well. If it stays here Ill be happy despite some of the quirks.
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          • Simhead23
            Banned
            • Sep 2016
            • 236

            #335
            Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

            Im really dissapointed with all these bandaid fixes they're adding in this game to.cover the terrible defense. Sharpshooters are useless at this point. Yes im glad they patched over dribbling but they need like 10 feet of space to shoot now. I literally played a game against a few sharpshooters and stretch bigs and they were.bricking all they shots, all were wide open too. Defense is still a chore, even with a ldd, and dribbling overall feels more.clunky. That's why people keep spamming snatchbacks because.the free flow feel is nearly gone at this point. I'm sorry but I had.to delete the application. Spent too much vc.on new characters, offline is still a mess because cpu can't miss and ratings don't matter, and myleauge sim stats are terrible. 2k need to go back to ther old way of buisness when they weren't esports because.all these bandaid fixes cover.the faulty game mechanics and makes the game less fun. 2k16 is arguably worse than 17 but throughout it's lifespan it was one of the best 2k games ever made. I don't regret spending a dollar on that game, but this game shows that buying 2k at launch isn't smart

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            • Rockie_Fresh88
              Lockdown Defender
              • Oct 2011
              • 9621

              #336
              Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

              If I'm dropping shots with my LDD and athletic finisher then a sharpshooter shouldn't have a problem.
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              • PhillyIMBlog.com
                Rookie
                • May 2016
                • 382

                #337
                Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

                Originally posted by Simhead23
                Im really dissapointed with all these bandaid fixes they're adding in this game to.cover the terrible defense. Sharpshooters are useless at this point. Yes im glad they patched over dribbling but they need like 10 feet of space to shoot now. I literally played a game against a few sharpshooters and stretch bigs and they were.bricking all they shots, all were wide open too. Defense is still a chore, even with a ldd, and dribbling overall feels more.clunky. That's why people keep spamming snatchbacks because.the free flow feel is nearly gone at this point. I'm sorry but I had.to delete the application. Spent too much vc.on new characters, offline is still a mess because cpu can't miss and ratings don't matter, and myleauge sim stats are terrible. 2k need to go back to ther old way of buisness when they weren't esports because.all these bandaid fixes cover.the faulty game mechanics and makes the game less fun. 2k16 is arguably worse than 17 but throughout it's lifespan it was one of the best 2k games ever made. I don't regret spending a dollar on that game, but this game shows that buying 2k at launch isn't smart


                Yeah, they pretty much ruined the game. On the lowest of low keys, this may have been a cash grab move.


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                • ph33
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 3261

                  #338
                  Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

                  I simply can't agree with this "Sharpshooters need 10 feet of space" I know yall are exaggerating so I'm not taking it literally, but our sharpshooters have been just fine in Pro-AM and that's on a higher difficulty if I'm not mistaken.

                  I understand the frustration because they've tuned it so it may feel drastically different from before, forcing adjustments, but I haven't seen our shooters get affected if they're taking a quality shot.

                  Our sharpshooters are immensely helpful when playing with our post scorer. People like to spam steals in the paint, so when our sharpshooter makes the entry pass, the defender can't cheat off of them. Otherwise it's a good open look. And having multiple sharpshooters ensures other parts of the court remain spaced. You may not be getting shots as regularly, but the presence of a sharpshooter is what matters more. They just can't create as easily for themselves now which is the way it should have been.

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                  • ClevelandFan
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 466

                    #339
                    Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

                    Originally posted by Optimus James
                    It will only get worse for you guys, PS4 just hit 50+ mil sold.
                    Developers will focus more on it, timed exclusivity and network features.
                    As an ex-PS4 owner, I can easily say that PS4 is the vastly superior system.

                    Still doesn't excuse releasing patches for XB1 weeks after the fact.

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                    • deadlocked
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 155

                      #340
                      Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

                      Originally posted by Jrocc23
                      Smh right lol. Shooting 60 or 70% from 3 is ridiculous and should scream to you the 3 needs to be lowered. But some people think they should be able to shoot that well for some reason.


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                      You have too camps. The realistics and the ones who just want to ball and have fun.


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                      • deadlocked
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 155

                        #341
                        Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

                        Originally posted by Optimus James
                        It will only get worse for you guys, PS4 just hit 50+ mil sold.
                        Developers will focus more on it, timed exclusivity and network features.

                        Scorpio is going to blow everything else out of the water.


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                        • Queannn
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 117

                          #342
                          Originally posted by PhillyIMBlog.com
                          I mean running around with created players isnt realistic in any sense at all, but you still do it right? Ok


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                          Lol this comment made sense to you ?
                          How do created players and shooting percentage correlate. No matter what you say shooting 60-70 shooting outside the paint consistently is not an accurate depiction of basketball.
                          Have you ever heard of the 50-40-90 club?

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                          • twebb5896
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 218

                            #343
                            Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

                            Originally posted by ClevelandFan
                            As an ex-PS4 owner, I can easily say that PS4 is the vastly superior system.

                            Still doesn't excuse releasing patches for XB1 weeks after the fact.
                            Xbox One S > PS4 Pro
                            The stats confirm it, but I'm waiting for the next release of consoles to make my decision.

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                            • ksuttonjr76
                              All Star
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 8662

                              #344
                              Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Includ

                              Seems like every patch results in an argument thread about the Sharpshooter...

                              I don't know anything about the patch, but I can tell you everything you need to know about shooting percentages when using the Sharpshooter. Some of these threads are a joke. I don't even know how developers even attempt to get feedback from this forum anymore.

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                              • Jrocc23
                                MVP
                                • May 2010
                                • 3206

                                #345
                                NBA 2K17 Patch 1.07 Available Now For PS4, Soon For Xbox One - Patch Notes Included

                                Originally posted by deadlocked
                                You have too camps. The realistics and the ones who just want to ball and have fun.


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                                I am both though. Actually I am more of the want to ball and have fun because I look at the "realistic" crowd as the super Sim guys w/ all these rules on how to play. I just want to play basketball but shooting and making every open shot isn't fun to me. It's not like people that want a somewhat realistic game doesn't want the game to be fun. But my thing is, you can't be crying about shooting while you are shooting 60-70% from 3 on what's supposed to be a basketball SIM. And then I don't see how people can say shooting is broken and it needs to be raised when you have people shooting like this. That doesn't mean shooting should be raised, it means you need to learn your shot, when to shoot, hot zones and etc.


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                                Last edited by Jrocc23; 12-12-2016, 04:51 PM.
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