NBA 2K17 Patch 1.10 Available Now, Here Are The Details

[franzis]

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I'll post this here too, in case some devs can help:


Since patch 1.10 came out, we are facing HUUUUUGE problems with the matchmaking in PRO-AM.


We wait somenthing like 30 minutes in the arena, but an opponent cannot be found.


We had to quit pro am two days in a row because of this.


Does anyone else having the same problem?
Any fix for it?


FYI, we are Elite team and are from Europe.

[infemous]

Re: NBA 2K17 Patch 1.10 Available Now, Here Are The Details

Fam trust me the off-ball collisions are the bane of my offensive existence. LOL. I knew offense would take a hit this year but that defensive feature will pay big dividends in the future so we kind of had to hold the L if that makes any sense.

Honestly speaking I was going to push for another update but I heard all the groaning about guys being pissed that we patched X times already and now I'm not so sure that is a good idea.

It would be awful if I talked them into doing another patch and the community turned on us for it. That would not be good at all.

I'm gonna hold you to this Da_Czar lol

I'm really hoping that all gameplay and especially collisions of all types are dramatically improved in 2k18. There was a temporary fix with some sliders and body up sensitivity but since the last few patches and/or gameplay tuning updates its really messy still and inconsistent.

I understand what you're saying though about holding the L but its important that the L is only for one year.

I hear you on communication, that is a slippery slope, there may be things I can or could answer but something are off limits and depend on the marketing department.

As a company 2k has some...interesting ideas about how and what to communicate so being part of said company you can only operate where you have leeway.

So sometimes as a dev if you know you can't or shouldn't answer certain things you just kind of fade into the weeds because it can seem rude to get asked the same question over and over again and not be able to answer.

Also sometimes we don't have that answer. Outside of my area of expertise I am only really giving my opinion. So it's muddy and unclear and I get how that comes off but unfortunately a lot of that is out of my hands.

Also this happens a lot someone will be asking about something but you are fighting behind the scenes to make it happen and you still do not know what the outcome will be so you just remain quiet until you figure it out.

In short in my opinion we could certainly do a better job communicating IMHO of course.

I really appreciate this honesty though. I think a lot of the time its kind of crazy how we have access to developers who care about the game yet the marketing people who are responsible stay hidden and can be these faceless, untargetable people who are actually responsible for keeping us in the dark.

If possible could we please get more accurate information regarding what each command does? Like for example, I'm only finding out from your streams the difference between Space the Floor, Motion Cuts and Scoring Options.

There is no easily accessible manual that translates these things into a digestible format and I think a manual would in fact temper a lot of these complaints that we have.

That's because your patches break what was fixed in the previous patch. Seriously, why even bother fixing the "hanging on the logo screen" issue if you're just going to break the fix 3 days later?
And why does no other game in the world pop up an "Update Required, please return to the main menu" message 20 minutes into a game? Why doesn't it just give me whatever update I need before the game loads, like every other game in the world?

I gotta agree on this one. Or at least let that damn thing be hidden. I've been really hindered by this in online and offline games and I've loaded the game up fresh from the beginning too.

[Thunderhorse]

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If possible could we please get more accurate information regarding what each command does? Like for example, I'm only finding out from your streams the difference between Space the Floor, Motion Cuts and Scoring Options.

There is no easily accessible manual that translates these things into a digestible format and I think a manual would in fact temper a lot of these complaints that we have.

THIS THIS THIS.

Seriously. I really believe that a lot of the heat comes from ignorance of the mechanics in the game.

The tools they give you (2KU) are insufficient in educating the user on how to effectively work the mechanics of this game. As it is right now, it is up to the community and our general user base to inform and educate others on how these mechanics work. Often this takes months into the game because we have to learn these mechanics ourselves.

I remember when people were trying to figure out how to unlock tireless scorer with their myplayers. I think it took a couple of months for the general user base to figure out that tireless scorer was not unlocked by scoring with a red bar, but by hitting a number of "difficult" shots. 2K could have broken this down in a manual and saved the general user base the additional headache and I think their neglect (which can be illustrated elsewhere in this regard) really contributes to what could easily be perceived as hostility towards the devs.

I also wonder if this isn't what 2K actually sets out to do. I've been playing 2K sport games for years. My favorite game of all time is All Pro Football 2K8 and I will never forget how that dev team neglected to educate the user on so many of the "advanced" controller functions. Perhaps the strategy is to encourage dedicated users to educate themselves outside of their direct interaction with the game in order to create a more diverse playing field.

[Mikeytheartist]

does anyone elses game still freeze at the team logo start up? its a digital download so i dont know why it keeps happening ill uninstall it and it will work for a day and day 2 i cant play it wtf 2k

[ksuttonjr76]

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does anyone elses game still freeze at the team logo start up? its a digital download so i dont know why it keeps happening ill uninstall it and it will work for a day and day 2 i cant play it wtf 2k

My copy, keeping my fingers crossed, have been loading properly of late.

[E The Rhymer]

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does anyone elses game still freeze at the team logo start up? its a digital download so i dont know why it keeps happening ill uninstall it and it will work for a day and day 2 i cant play it wtf 2k

Lol the patch fixed that for me but now I have to sit in play now games for 20+ min waiting for update required only to not have it come up so I assume it's safe and proceed to wait 15+ min for MC to load up only to have it appear in the corner as soon as I finally load up into MC.


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[ELPAGA]

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I've lost so much interest in this game. Everything is so broken lowkey the game is just trash to me. I'll play one game and then not wanna play another for another week. Its just a very frustrating game. Frustrating for all the wrong reasons.

[infemous]

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THIS THIS THIS.

Seriously. I really believe that a lot of the heat comes from ignorance of the mechanics in the game.

The tools they give you (2KU) are insufficient in educating the user on how to effectively work the mechanics of this game. As it is right now, it is up to the community and our general user base to inform and educate others on how these mechanics work. Often this takes months into the game because we have to learn these mechanics ourselves.

I remember when people were trying to figure out how to unlock tireless scorer with their myplayers. I think it took a couple of months for the general user base to figure out that tireless scorer was not unlocked by scoring with a red bar, but by hitting a number of "difficult" shots. 2K could have broken this down in a manual and saved the general user base the additional headache and I think their neglect (which can be illustrated elsewhere in this regard) really contributes to what could easily be perceived as hostility towards the devs.

I also wonder if this isn't what 2K actually sets out to do. I've been playing 2K sport games for years. My favorite game of all time is All Pro Football 2K8 and I will never forget how that dev team neglected to educate the user on so many of the "advanced" controller functions. Perhaps the strategy is to encourage dedicated users to educate themselves outside of their direct interaction with the game in order to create a more diverse playing field.

thats an interesting point. I have never in my life watched YouTube gaming tutorials except for this game.

Trying to make sense of the defensive settings adjustments in MyLeague and in game, as well as finding out what was nerfed in park or ProAm creates a whole economy around 2k, however, it would be nice to know what each setting is supposed to do instead of the help box saying 'set your defensive settings for pick and roll' instead of 'soft hedge does X'.

I totally agree that the hostility is very much from being very present on 2k TV, putting faces to Devs, having active social media, but not answering the most direct or frustrating questions.

It shouldn't be up to Devs having to do breakdown videos, or post on OS to answer something that only a few years ago would have been detailed in a manual, and if this is about saving trees, make it an online manual.

There's no excuse IMO.

PS. I'm a dude, I don't read manuals, but knowing one is there is great coz it saves trawling through a god tonne of little kids with useless youtube vids for the most simple question.

[AgentZer0]

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I've lost so much interest in this game. Everything is so broken lowkey the game is just trash to me. I'll play one game and then not wanna play another for another week. Its just a very frustrating game. Frustrating for all the wrong reasons.

I hear ya, just rebuild the knicks for fun, but the gameplay is soooooo flawed its not even funny anymore. Even if you adjust the sliders, the cpu still manages to morph through you, bump you without any foul calls, your up in their grill on every shot they still make it, cpu defenders have a lateral of 1000, will block you easily because they are glued to you if you beat them on the dribble and so on. They have their back turned to the ball and steal your passes with a ballerina spin move in no time.Your teammates come over to help without any call for it and foul your matchup etc...

pro am arena the only mode i really loved to play is dead for us too: Once that end of december patch hit we couldnt find opponents anymore (Elite 3) - deleting and creating a new team cant be the solution and won't be for us because we are holding that #1 spot in europe and wanted to keep pushing.

Park is plagued by cheaters, crashers and cheesers. Dribbling 15 seconds running you into a hof brick wall, much fun.

In short the thrill is gone for me, with the cheating issues on PC this will be my last 2k.

[Da_Czar]

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If patching the game is as dangerous as you say, why did you guys send out 21GB in patches in this past week alone?

To try and fix outstanding issues with the game and then as can happen anytime you patch a game something that was previously working stopped working so that required another patch.

All I am saying is it is really a no win situation. If we don't patch at all people feel we don't care, if we do patch and mess something up do we just leave it because we released x patches in a certain amount of time ? Or do we try and correct that ?

At some point to have a 2k18 we have to turn our attention to that game.

You can patch a game forever and still not perfect it because some issues need major dev time to correct or new systems.

[jgarrett]

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To try and fix outstanding issues with the game and then as can happen anytime you patch a game something that was previously working stopped working so that required another patch.

All I am saying is it is really a no win situation. If we don't patch at all people feel we don't care, if we do patch and mess something up do we just leave it because we released x patches in a certain amount of time ? Or do we try and correct that ?

At some point to have a 2k18 we have to turn our attention to that game.

You can patch a game forever and still not perfect it because some issues need major dev time to correct or new systems.

Czar, thanks for coming here and keeping us informed. Do you know if he issue caused by the last patch that broke MyLeague Online will be fixed?

[Da_Czar]

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Dear Da_Czar

with this so many patches, then why you people havent fixed the fastbreak, bump steals and dribble drive in this game since it was mentioned every time you people release a new patch.

Is that part dangerous?????

and also is the people in the art department even cares???

Thanks have a nice day.

Some things need a bigger solution to than can be offered in a patch. It's not an Orwellian conspiracy fam. Also if the solution is a new system of some sort that way outside the bounds of a patch.

Also again to have a 2k18 gameplay team has to move on at some point. Especially working with big systems like those you mentioned.

Patches are rarely new solutions just adjustments. Full solutions take more dev time. It is really that simple.

[Da_Czar]

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I'm gonna hold you to this Da_Czar lol

I'm really hoping that all gameplay and especially collisions of all types are dramatically improved in 2k18.

I got you fam. we may have new problems in 18 but that won't be one of them.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Some things need a bigger solution to than can be offered in a patch. It's not an Orwellian conspiracy fam. Also if the solution is a new system of some sort that way outside the bounds of a patch.

Also again to have a 2k18 gameplay team has to move on at some point. Especially working with big systems like those you mentioned.

Patches are rarely new solutions just adjustments. Full solutions take more dev time. It is really that simple.

Bolded for emphasis .

Needed to see that.

[fakeassc]

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Seriously just gonna ask D_C why can't 2K just reverse one of the patches (1.06 dribbling changes).

Honestly just change this and it would help the dribble-drive game improve immensely.