Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

[Reggie5489]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

Just like there are some people who want to sit back and play in a fictional park and act like they're "Basketball Gawds" because they can't ball in real life.

See, I can also insult gamers that don't play the same modes as me!


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I dont play park though and I axtually can play the sport so maybe thats why i dont care for park. I just want PNO fixed tbh, n I want it sim for myleague but if Im llaying head to head online and I know my player releases I wqnt to shoot a good clip, if not then just use real fg%. The better the shooter, better the clip and stop these airballs n bricks.

By 2k logic nba players only make jumpers when open.

[E The Rhymer]

Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

As it is now, if nobody cross half court except for me... and I stand in the corner with 55 3PT shooting, I will still most likely miss even though nobody is on my half of the court.

With a 55 probably should... more often than not at least. It's a 55 not a 95 just because you are open you don't get guaranteed shots. And I don't know what to say about that one because I've seen guys without a single bar in shooting splash shots all over three not just the corner.




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[jyoung]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

As it is now, if nobody cross half court except for me... and I stand in the corner with 55 3PT shooting, I will still most likely miss even though nobody is on my half of the court.

This is not true at all in my experiences post-patch, as I've played alongside several slashers and lockdown defenders who have still been shooting 66% or better from three with only a 55 to 60 rating. Some of these teammates didn't even have custom jumpshots unlocked yet, or have all of the shooting badges working in their favor (catch and shoot, corner specialist, dimer), and they were still consistently getting green release threes from the corner.

[de_jesus]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

Was playing offline HOF MyLeague last night against the Cavs when Tristan Thompson came off a screen and buried a catch-n-shoot three pointer.

[DakkoN]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

This is not true at all in my experiences post-patch, as I've played alongside several slashers and lockdown defenders who have still been shooting 66% or better from three with only a 55 to 60 rating. Some of these teammates didn't even have custom jumpshots unlocked yet, or have all of the shooting badges working in their favor (catch and shoot, corner specialist, dimer), and they were still consistently getting green release threes from the corner.

My buddy who was playing Paint Protector last night was green lighting corner 3's with default Aldridge shot and was around 6/6 on the night.. I'm about 75% with my Slasher from the corner since the last tweak using a default numbered jumper.. Sometimes I wonder if these people saying they can't shoot actually have their hotspots when they are walking around the court or if they are only relying on the shot chart in the statistics menu..

[Inzombniac]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

One can argue whether the way the game was set up with archetypes is right or wrong but basically what these arguments are boiling down to is that some people want complete freedom with shooting no matter their archetype while others want it to be realistic to what the archetype is designed and supposed to be. The way the game was set up with these, you're not supposed to be a knockdown stand still shooter with anything other than a sharpshooter. It is what it is. I'm not arguing that we shouldn't have freedom with these things (that's something that's hopefully addressed for 2K18) but that's not the way the game has been set up. When 2K17 first dropped, were people really picking these archetypes with 60 three pointer thinking they were going to be able to splash like it turned out they could or did this become a thing after a month or two when they discovered they could shoot that way, created said archetype because of this and are now upset that they can't?

We'll see how 2K18 shapes up but in terms of how 2K17 is designed and supposed to work if you go by the attributes, the shooting sounds honestly realistic. I played against a stretch big the other night who could still hit shots from far beyond the 3 point line when left open and hit a majority of his shots with a late close out. So shooting can still be effective with the right archetype. Meanwhile as a shot creator, I'm not hitting a ton of stand still 3's but like someone mentioned about hot spots, if I hit the corners where I have them and toss up a 3, it's more than likely going in unless I'm just not in a rhythm.

A glass cleaner should be missing a majority of his 3's (and I say this as someone who has a 96 GC who used to be able to hit 3 pointers with only a 30 some point rating from time to time) because his archetype isn't meant to be a shooter regardless of what the defense is. Why should the game make you pay for doing the right thing defensively against someone who willingly chose to make a GC knowing the limitations? That's basketball. You sag off Rondo unless he makes 2 or 3 straight threes because he's not supposed to be a shooter. LDD, slashers, etc., those are more than arguable and again, I hope for 2K18 they're worked on a bit to be more open ended shooting wise but not every archetype should be able to do this. Even with the limits, if you have the hotspots and a point guard/point forward is passing you the ball with gold or HOF dimer...you're still going to have a decent chance of hitting that 3 if you're raised your bars a bit even as a GC. I know I do on my paint protector who has a 40 three point rating. But I'm not trying to shoot 10 3's a game as him even if I'm open (and honestly, even if I were, I probably wouldn't be getting the ball that many times to shoot it as anything but a shooter), I'm playing within what I'm supposed to be archetype wise which is a key difference. If I'm playing as my GC, I'm staying in just below the 3 point line where my 70ish mid range is because I know that's more than likely going in if I'm left uncontested.

[VAWereWolf65]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

Was playing offline HOF MyLeague last night against the Cavs when Tristan Thompson came off a screen and buried a catch-n-shoot three pointer.

Let's not forget the multiple times that Deandre Jordan and Andre Drummond have drained threes in REAL NBA games.

Sometimes it's the person you least expect.

[de_jesus]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

Let's not forget the multiple times that Deandre Jordan and Andre Drummond have drained threes in REAL NBA games.

Sometimes it's the person you least expect.

I know exactly what plays you're talking about, but you show me a video of one of those guys rolling off a pick and burying a turn around jumper from the arc. Something like this happens just about every single game.

It's usually with guys knocking down their free throw shots despite their ratings.

Man, I wish I would have recorded it just so you all could see.

[Goffs]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

Let's not forget the multiple times that Deandre Jordan and Andre Drummond have drained threes in REAL NBA games.

Sometimes it's the person you least expect.

Problem is that DJordan and Drummond SHOULD usually be the players setting the pick and not getting set up for a damn shot. This happens way too often in 2k....bigman getting a pick and making the shot form well beyond his range.

Saw this on reddit

Maybe adding range will help with the shooting for 2k18.....

[VAWereWolf65]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

Problem is that DJordan and Drummond SHOULD usually be the players setting the pick and not getting set up for a damn shot. This happens way too often in 2k....bigman getting a pick and making the shot form well beyond his range.

Saw this on reddit

Maybe adding range will help with the shooting for 2k18.....

Fair enough but I don't see what more having a 25 open three could do. 25 is supposed to mean that their percentage from that area is 0% via this picture:
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I don't see what more adding range would do

[VAWereWolf65]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

I know exactly what plays you're talking about, but you show me a video of one of those guys rolling off a pick and burying a turn around jumper from the arc. Something like this happens just about every single game.

It's usually with guys knocking down their free throw shots despite their ratings.

Man, I wish I would have recorded it just so you all could see.

is this online or vs CPU ?

[Goffs]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

Ugh damn tapatalk.....

[Goffs]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

Range as in keeping bigs from shooting way out of their comfort zone. If you look at the pic the bigs ranges are 13 feet.

Then again they have tendencies for this lol. Just wish they would overhaul the tendencies....

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[VAWereWolf65]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

Range as in keeping bigs from shooting way out of their comfort zone. If you look at the pic the bigs ranges are 13 feet.

Then again they have tendencies for this lol. Just wish they would overhaul the tendencies....

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Tristian Thompson already has a 0 three tendnecy

even so, sometimes bigs just want to take threes when they shouldn't lol

Here's a video of dwight howard taking a random three with plenty of time left on the shot clock:

http://on.nba.com/2p9oOJQ

[jk31]

Re: Mike Wang 4-28-17 Shooting Changes.

Fair enough but I don't see what more having a 25 open three could do. 25 is supposed to mean that their percentage from that area is 0% via this picture:
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I don't see what more adding range would do

I still want to know where the numbers in this picture come from. Did 2k provide them? Did a user collect these by experimenting?