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  • Housh123
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 1173

    #1

    For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

    Is it really that hard of a concept to space the floor when passing to a post scorer in post up position?


    i just ran an hour straight of park where not ONE TEAM could utilize me correctly. Made it worse when every opposing team had a mic and was calling me trash.


    So for the record.....


    When you are playing with a post scorer who actually knows what hes doing PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE space the floor BEFORE you post them up. Because if you post me up too close your man will jet right to me and rip me as soon as i catch the ball. Also when playing with a post scorer please keep moving after you post me up. Every single game, when I got the ball people would just stand still when I got the ball so even when I didnt get ripped as soon as I touched it, id throw a turnover because dudes are standing completely still.




    This game needs to become more post friendly man. EVERYTHING is centered around the perimeter its crazy






    The park is so trash for post scoring big men its crazy. You can really double us AND get right back to your man even if I pass it less than 1 second after I touch it.
  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47562

    #2
    Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

    Been saying that for the last 2 years. They have added some things. But they definitely nerf ed hook shots last year. Thus years is even worst. I've been missing point blank shots in the paint after making really nice lives to get open. It crazy.

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    • VAWereWolf65
      MVP
      • Jul 2016
      • 1734

      #3
      Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

      I've heard multiple Youtubers say that post scorers are the hardest position to guard but nobody uses them

      I have a 6'7" slasher and he has only a 55 post control but the drop step is one of my go to moves because it's so hard to stop. Really sad there aren't more players in the park who utilize the post game
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      • Bandeazyy
        Rookie
        • Sep 2015
        • 207

        #4
        Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

        Honestly, 2k probably has one of the worst community of any game. Never have I seen so many garbage players that doesnt have any basketball iq think they're some kind of 2k god. I blame youtube....you got a bunch of morons that watch cheesy dribble moves and all of a sudden they think they can't do no wrong. I haven't met one player that knows how to really run a simple pick n roll. Even if 2k provided a tutorial mode for 2k18, you'll still have these types of morons more than people that knows how to play team ball and make the right passes.

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        • TheFinalEvent97
          MVP
          • Jul 2016
          • 1519

          #5
          Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

          Originally posted by Bandeazyy
          Honestly, 2k probably has one of the worst community of any game. Never have I seen so many garbage players that doesnt have any basketball iq think they're some kind of 2k god. I blame youtube....you got a bunch of morons that watch cheesy dribble moves and all of a sudden they think they can't do no wrong. I haven't met one player that knows how to really run a simple pick n roll. Even if 2k provided a tutorial mode for 2k18, you'll still have these types of morons more than people that knows how to play team ball and make the right passes.
          The number of playmakers that have heard of passing to the roll man is ridiculous. If they can't get past their defender they will always reset looking for another PnR, even when u have a clear lane to the hoop. So many playmakers are simply allergic to passing but what annoys me most of all are players who don't even try to defend. I can understand getting caught/knocked down by screens but some people.
          For example i played a walk-on game with my 6'10 Paint Protector, a Stretch Big was at PF matched up with an Athletic Finisher, he decided it would be a good idea to defend the AF from in front allowing endless entry passes and putting me in a situation where im trying to guard a 7'3 glass cleaner and a 7 foot AF without getting dunked on or fouling

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          • SwankSinatra
            Rookie
            • Dec 2013
            • 45

            #6
            Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

            Originally posted by Housh123
            Is it really that hard of a concept to space the floor when passing to a post scorer in post up position?





            i just ran an hour straight of park where not ONE TEAM could utilize me correctly. Made it worse when every opposing team had a mic and was calling me trash.





            So for the record.....





            When you are playing with a post scorer who actually knows what hes doing PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE space the floor BEFORE you post them up. Because if you post me up too close your man will jet right to me and rip me as soon as i catch the ball. Also when playing with a post scorer please keep moving after you post me up. Every single game, when I got the ball people would just stand still when I got the ball so even when I didnt get ripped as soon as I touched it, id throw a turnover because dudes are standing completely still.









            This game needs to become more post friendly man. EVERYTHING is centered around the perimeter its crazy













            The park is so trash for post scoring big men its crazy. You can really double us AND get right back to your man even if I pass it less than 1 second after I touch it.


            What system are you on?


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            • Housh123
              Banned
              • Jan 2011
              • 1173

              #7
              Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

              Originally posted by SwankSinatra
              What system are you on?


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              • GudStuffzz
                Rookie
                • Feb 2013
                • 352

                #8
                Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

                MyPark is horrendous. Bunch of low iq shot chuckers who don't understand simple concepts of basketball. I don't play the mode much anymore because my friends aren't really basketball fans and most of the randoms I played with had negative bball iq. No idea how to run a simple pick and roll or even a frickin drive and kick... like come on. Don't even get me started on their defense, what a train wreck it is on that end.
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                • Schrankwand
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 171

                  #9
                  Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

                  Originally posted by Housh123
                  The park is so trash [...]
                  Fixed it

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                  • ph33
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 3261

                    #10
                    Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

                    Post Scorer?

                    Hah hah hah

                    Don't you know your archetype is really Post Passer? As in you get the ball on the block and I run up to you and clog your space so you can pass me the ball for a contested layup with 5 people under the rim?

                    /s

                    But that's really how most people seem to see it.

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                    • Chemthethriller
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 514

                      #11
                      Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

                      The problem with Post scorers from my experience (I've made a Center as my go to MyPlayer since the mode came out) on 2k17 is 1. In Park it's a hack fest. I'll get the ball isolated, and unless I just instantly drop step or fade away I'm getting hacked. I don't mind doing a quick move to score but just like the dribble gawds, every so often I'd actually like to hit people with a fake and a move. 2. In Pro-AM, the court is just too small. I can't even run a proper triangle offense due to this. As soon as I catch the entry pass I usually have someone dive from the 3pt line to the point where I lose the ball or have to instantly kick it out.

                      2k needs to make the post scorers have the same chance to hold the ball as a Playmaker does, unless I'm going against a Rim Protector or LDD, they need to have an extremely higher foul %, or 2k needs to make it where if you hit steal, in a bad steal position the animation doesn't just happen.

                      The problem in the Post is the defense doesn't get hurt too much for a unsuccessful steal attempt.

                      If they mad it where you attempted to go around someone and missed leaving an easy basket, I'm sure it would be spammed less.

                      Also there needs to be a protect ball move that actually works, at 7'1 why can't I catch and just hold the ball out in front of me, not allowing a 1. The man on my back to reach for it, and 2. an easy swipe from a passing smaller defender.


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                      • ForeverVersatile
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 3493

                        #12
                        For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

                        Played in the park and pro am today for the first time this year and it was horrible. Not one person displayed some sort of basketball knowledge. It was all zig zagging, spamming the same dribble combo and shooting damn near half court.

                        How in the hell can they have ESports teams when all everyone does is play like idiots. Pro am was slightly more bearable than the park but still bad.

                        People wont run with you in the park if you're not some legend or whatever that crap is called. None of these guys have real knowledge of basketball though.


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                        • E The Rhymer
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 923

                          #13
                          Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

                          I'm sure most of these guys see that their favorite YTr said post scorers are the best but a 3 is still more than 2. Why learn to play correctly in the post of have to work hard to be good and get 2 when you can simply hopstep into a half court screen and get a auto-green every time for 3.


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                          • Breakstarter
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 419

                            #14
                            Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

                            I believe Post scorers would get more love if you made them more dominant once they are engaged in the post. The problem is that ball handling is low on Post Scorers and post ball handling/Post Control is not something 2k has taken into consideration making this archetype. When the player is engaged in the post, anyone with a pulse can just spam Steal, and poke the ball loose from the user. It discourages people from wanting to go and make these supposedly skillful players. 2K needs to address this issue and make it damn near impossible to steal from a user with 90+ball control. The same way that playmakers with high ball control have a small chance of losing the ball will dribbling, the same should be said for post scorers once engaged in the post.

                            Even though some of you dislike it, i believe Post scorers should also get the same effect that ankle breaker draws from play makers. Playmakers can get opponents to fall, slip, lose balance from simple crossovers, to slight hesitations.
                            I feel like if you're proficient in the post, opponents should fear you. Pump fakes, up and unders, jab steps,shimmy's drop steps...these should all make defenders step back..stumble, fall down, get left looking dumbfounded etc...

















                            Even through a double team, a highly skilled player should finish with ease


                            Comment

                            • Housh123
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1173

                              #15
                              Re: For the love of god please learn how to use a post scorer

                              Originally posted by Chemthethriller
                              The problem with Post scorers from my experience (I've made a Center as my go to MyPlayer since the mode came out) on 2k17 is 1. In Park it's a hack fest. I'll get the ball isolated, and unless I just instantly drop step or fade away I'm getting hacked. I don't mind doing a quick move to score but just like the dribble gawds, every so often I'd actually like to hit people with a fake and a move. 2. In Pro-AM, the court is just too small. I can't even run a proper triangle offense due to this. As soon as I catch the entry pass I usually have someone dive from the 3pt line to the point where I lose the ball or have to instantly kick it out.

                              2k needs to make the post scorers have the same chance to hold the ball as a Playmaker does, unless I'm going against a Rim Protector or LDD, they need to have an extremely higher foul %, or 2k needs to make it where if you hit steal, in a bad steal position the animation doesn't just happen.

                              The problem in the Post is the defense doesn't get hurt too much for a unsuccessful steal attempt.

                              If they mad it where you attempted to go around someone and missed leaving an easy basket, I'm sure it would be spammed less.

                              Also there needs to be a protect ball move that actually works, at 7'1 why can't I catch and just hold the ball out in front of me, not allowing a 1. The man on my back to reach for it, and 2. an easy swipe from a passing smaller defender.


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                              Man iv said these same points in so many threads lol. The big one about post scorers having the same ball security in the post as playmakers have on the perimeter is a MUST. idc about my ball security when im dribbling but as soon as I post up it should shoot up to high 90s if my rating is good. Also I think you and me are the only ones on this board to relate height to a protect ball button. The example I used was if 2 6' 6" guys double team me why would I as a 7' 3" center be highly affected by that? It doesn't make sense. There should be a button where I hold the ball high up and basically can only be ripped by other 7 foot players. Also that button should be a near AUTOMATIC foul if you reach more than once.

                              Originally posted by Breakstarter
                              I believe Post scorers would get more love if you made them more dominant once they are engaged in the post. The problem is that ball handling is low on Post Scorers and post ball handling/Post Control is not something 2k has taken into consideration making this archetype. When the player is engaged in the post, anyone with a pulse can just spam Steal, and poke the ball loose from the user. It discourages people from wanting to go and make these supposedly skillful players. 2K needs to address this issue and make it damn near impossible to steal from a user with 90+ball control. The same way that playmakers with high ball control have a small chance of losing the ball will dribbling, the same should be said for post scorers once engaged in the post.

                              Even though some of you dislike it, i believe Post scorers should also get the same effect that ankle breaker draws from play makers. Playmakers can get opponents to fall, slip, lose balance from simple crossovers, to slight hesitations.
                              I feel like if you're proficient in the post, opponents should fear you. Pump fakes, up and unders, jab steps,shimmy's drop steps...these should all make defenders step back..stumble, fall down, get left looking dumbfounded etc...





                              Even through a double team, a highly skilled player should finish with ease

                              First bolded is a problem that's been a problem for years now and I actually thought 2k would address it this year because its gotten CRAZY. Them not patching that confirms my idea that the game is made for shooters. Your second bolded point is simply a really good idea. If I do a fake and your spamming reach and you reach right when I do a fake there should be a badge that makes people fall or stumble. If I can be forced to fall on the perimeter because of my bad defensive position then we should be able to punish poor post defenders.

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