Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

[sk8board]

Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

Every time I read this thread so I always feel like there's a group of players who just wants 2k to dictate who wins every game.

You're telling me if I get wide open with a 95 right at three point shooter, get the timing down 100% from the corner, it should either be green and miss or it should still be full white and miss

Then what's the point of even playing defense, what's the point of learning your release, what's the point of getting good at the game. I mean none of that matters anymore. Let's just let 2k decide what goes in every single time. I guarantee if this happens a lot of people are going to quit playing. They already have been

[killaxxbearsxxx]

Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

Every time I read this thread so I always feel like there's a group of players who just wants 2k to dictate who wins every game.

You're telling me if I get wide open with a 95 right at three point shooter, get the timing down 100% from the corner, it should either be green and miss or it should still be full white and miss

Then what's the point of even playing defense, what's the point of learning your release, what's the point of getting good at the game. I mean none of that matters anymore. Let's just let 2k decide what goes in every single time. I guarantee if this happens a lot of people are going to quit playing. They already have been

Shift what you view as "good". Things like learning releases don't make you "good". Learning releases (and many other things) is like developing skill in real life. But at some point that skill flattens out to where most people can dribble and most people can shoot competently. At a certain point most people know releases.

The problem is that there is nowhere to go after that. It should be that once you learn your releases the game becomes about getting better shots than the other team, getting to your spots, keeping them from theirs all of that. Sadly bad basketball is rewarded so much so that people don't even feel the need to learn the game, they just learn 2k. One day we'll get there though. Probably one day soon

To stay on topic, I think they should keep hot zones because it adds another layer of skill. I remember watching a CZAR video where he was talking about running plays to your player's hot zones and I like the idea of having to keep that in mind, having to get to your spots. I don't think they should be so grindy and broken in myplayer modes where they literally break the balance of the archetypes, but that's sort of a given isn't it?

[Vroman]

Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

Every time I read this thread so I always feel like there's a group of players who just wants 2k to dictate who wins every game.

You're telling me if I get wide open with a 95 right at three point shooter, get the timing down 100% from the corner, it should either be green and miss or it should still be full white and miss

Then what's the point of even playing defense, what's the point of learning your release, what's the point of getting good at the game. I mean none of that matters anymore. Let's just let 2k decide what goes in every single time. I guarantee if this happens a lot of people are going to quit playing. They already have been

Then also make possible to make every single post fade and hook shot on post scorer, posterize defender on every attempt as slasher, break ankles on every crossover with playmaker, knock ball loose on every steal attempt as ldd.

[Housh123]

Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

And that's a major problem. Example: If you take away hot zones and don't have 100% greens, a Shot Creator archetype will be at a severe disadvantage vs a Sharpshooter archetype, because the game is built to reward standing shots more than shots off the dribble. And even then, certain shots off the dribble fall more frequently than others. Without hot zones, things like this become even MORE apparent.

Considering I've been losing more and more faith in their ability to produce fair and balanced shooting across the board, I feel that we need to have one (100% greens) or the other (hot zones). Otherwise shooting will become far too inconsistent.

See and now we have to address a point that shot creator was done wrong in 2k17. Leaners are of less % than standing shots anyway. Hot zones that help those shots be on par with standing straight up shots aren't good for basketball. I think the way you balance that if you insist on keeping the archetype is you make the shot creator the only archetype that can hit leaners....period. Also wide open leaners should be punished. You never saw Kobe doing any type of leaners when he was wide open. But when he was defended he exceled at shooting those shots. But then again all that would do is cause little 12 year old bum kids to never pass and pull up in the face of the D and now theyd have an excuse why they were doing it. IM A SHOT CREATOR WITH HOF DIFFICULT SHOTS I SHOULD MAKE THAT SHOT!!!

[Housh123]

Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

Every time I read this thread so I always feel like there's a group of players who just wants 2k to dictate who wins every game.

You're telling me if I get wide open with a 95 right at three point shooter, get the timing down 100% from the corner, it should either be green and miss or it should still be full white and miss

Then what's the point of even playing defense, what's the point of learning your release, what's the point of getting good at the game. I mean none of that matters anymore. Let's just let 2k decide what goes in every single time. I guarantee if this happens a lot of people are going to quit playing. They already have been

That's exactly what people are saying.


Steph Curry misses wide open 3s all the time. Ray Allen did, Kyle Korver.




Just because you did all you had to do to get a good shot doesn't mean you should shoot 100% on those shots. To me that's crazy to even THINK you should hit 100% of ANY shot in a basketball game. If that's the case then as a post scorer I want to hit 100% of the hook shots I take against smaller defenders.


I feel like people don't take into account balance across the board when they talk about suggestions for 2k.


Guys flat out shouldn't be hitting 60-80% on 3s in this game and they do. Its horrible. If wide open your best should be at about 55%. Now to combat your why even play defense notion. Id be 100% for implementing a STACKABLE boost to your shooting if your defender is flat out playing bad D and leaving you open

[Caelumfang]

Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

That's exactly what people are saying.


Steph Curry misses wide open 3s all the time. Ray Allen did, Kyle Korver.




Just because you did all you had to do to get a good shot doesn't mean you should shoot 100% on those shots. To me that's crazy to even THINK you should hit 100% of ANY shot in a basketball game. If that's the case then as a post scorer I want to hit 100% of the hook shots I take against smaller defenders.


I feel like people don't take into account balance across the board when they talk about suggestions for 2k.


Guys flat out shouldn't be hitting 60-80% on 3s in this game and they do. Its horrible. If wide open your best should be at about 55%. Now to combat your why even play defense notion. Id be 100% for implementing a STACKABLE boost to your shooting if your defender is flat out playing bad D and leaving you open

And this is why I feel that the game 'across the pond' has the right ideas about archetypes, and things like stack-able boosts when you're hot, or the defender is just playing badly.

[Housh123]

Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

And this is why I feel that the game 'across the pond' has the right ideas about archetypes, and things like stack-able boosts when you're hot, or the defender is just playing badly.

I been liking the other games ideas as well.


They have traits that activate based off of TEAMWORK mechanics.




I mean one they have for their Curry archetype is the more assists you get the better you shoot 3s.






LIKE THANK YOU!!

[Caelumfang]

Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

I been liking the other games ideas as well.


They have traits that activate based off of TEAMWORK mechanics.




I mean one they have for their Curry archetype is the more assists you get the better you shoot 3s.






LIKE THANK YOU!!

Yeah, it gives incentives in wanting you to play team ball, instead of running down, zig-zagging through screens and jacking shots.