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  • MadManCometh
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    #31
    Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

    Originally posted by Totalpackage83
    In a nutshell you just sound like a Steph stan. So we should just throw the stats out because it is Steph? He made a lower percentage of his spot up 3pt shots but he is a better spot up shooter? What are you basing that on? You aren't being objective at all.
    So based on "Stats" Korver should be looking for a 5 yr/200mil extension ?


    Listen, Korver is a spot up shooter because that's his role, in fact thats all he can do. He's a floor spacer. That's it. Steph role is obviously more dynamic. But can Steph be reduced to a spot up shooter if he wanted to? Sure he can. And I'm sure he would be better because he's a better talent. He does more because he has the talent to do more.

    If you put Korver in Curry's role, his numbers would plummet. He can't do what Curry can do and never will. But you can put Curry in Korver's role and I'm sure he produces better numbers easily.

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    • VAWereWolf65
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      #32
      Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

      Originally posted by Totalpackage83
      In a nutshell you just sound like a Steph stan. So we should just throw the stats out because it is Steph? He made a lower percentage of his spot up 3pt shots but he is a better spot up shooter? What are you basing that on? You aren't being objective at all.
      Finally, another person who understands how numbers and statistics work
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      • JJRuelz
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        • Mar 2013
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        #33
        Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

        Originally posted by Totalpackage83
        Do you know the difference between being subjective and objective? So 3pt % doesn't matter? Stats shouldn't matter in ratings? Lol I can't even continue on with this convo.

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        "So 3pt % doesn't matter" like curry doesn't have an elite 3pt % especially after attempting 10 a game.
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        • MadManCometh
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          #34
          Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

          Originally posted by Totalpackage83
          Do you know the difference between being subjective and objective? So 3pt % doesn't matter? Stats shouldn't matter in ratings? Lol I can't even continue on with this convo.

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          So why does 2K give Curry the ratings he has?

          So the 2K devs must be highly ignorant and on drugs since his stats dont dictate a 99 rating according to your theory?

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          • Totalpackage83
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            #35
            Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

            Originally posted by MadManCometh
            So why does 2K give Curry the ratings he has?

            So the 2K devs must be highly ignorant and on drugs since his stats dont dictate a 99 rating according to your theory?
            So you think 41% is deserving of a 99 3pt rating? If you do we can just agree to disagree

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            • VAWereWolf65
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              #36
              Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

              Originally posted by JJRuelz
              "So 3pt % doesn't matter" like curry doesn't have an elite 3pt % especially after attempting 10 a game.
              Curry attempts 10 a game and shoots 41%

              But Korver takes 6 a game and shoots 49%

              I don't really see you're argument...

              41% from three isn't a 99 three pointer. 49% Is.
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              • JJRuelz
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                #37
                Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

                Originally posted by VAWereWolf65
                Curry attempts 10 a game and shoots 41%

                But Korver takes 6 a game and shoots 49%

                I don't really see you're argument...

                41% from three isn't a 99 three pointer. 49% Is.
                Here you go again using korver's best numbers to skew your argument. And again failing to see more than analytics.
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                • MadManCometh
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                  #38
                  Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

                  Originally posted by Totalpackage83
                  So you think 41% is deserving of a 99 3pt rating? If you do we can just agree to disagree

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                  It's not just based on %, and it shouldn't be. The rating is based on skill set and ability. The level of difficulty. It's more than just a simple number. Doesn't work like that and it never will.

                  Also, from a programming point of view, that 99 is also to help counter: A.) How the game is coded in its current state. And
                  B.) To best duplicate Curry's game in a video game terms.

                  The game isn't really programmed or coded to play the way Curry plays. You do understand that right? That's also a big reason for the 99s.

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                  • VAWereWolf65
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                    #39
                    Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

                    Originally posted by JJRuelz
                    Here you go again using korver's best numbers to skew your argument. And again failing to see more than analytics.
                    Tf do you mean see more than analytics? You tried to use curry's off dribble shooting as an argument, But korver shoots a better percentage off dribble too!

                    You're contradicting yourself. You're saying numbers don't matter but they quite obviously do. Even if we use currys best season, he still only shot around 45%. Korver shot 53% his best season...
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                    • Totalpackage83
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                      #40
                      Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

                      Originally posted by MadManCometh
                      It's not just based on %, and it shouldn't be. The rating is based on skill set and ability. The level of difficulty. It's more than just a simple number. Doesn't work like that and it never will.

                      Also, from a programming point of view, that 99 is also to help counter: A.) How the game is coded in its current state. And
                      B.) To best duplicate Curry's game in a video game terms.

                      The game isn't really programmed or coded to play the way Curry plays. You do understand that right? That's also a big reason for the 99s.
                      Where did I say that it should be based just on percentage? With that being said, there is nothing objective about giving a guy who shot 41% a 99 3pt rating. Especially after they already broke the game to give him crazy extended range. He has a ton of badges that help with the level of difficulty when it comes to shots that he takes. After all, that is why badges were introduced. He shouldn't be a 99 3pt. Saying he should makes you sound like a fan boy.

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                      • MadManCometh
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                        #41
                        Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

                        Originally posted by VAWereWolf65
                        Tf do you mean see more than analytics? You tried to use curry's off dribble shooting as an argument, But korver shoots a better percentage off dribble too!

                        You're contradicting yourself. You're saying numbers don't matter but they quite obviously do. Even if we use currys best season, he still only shot around 45%. Korver shot 53% his best season...
                        So Korver is a better shooter?

                        So the 2K devs must not know Basketball?

                        And how dare Steph get a 200 mil extension when Korver makes a very small fraction of that? The owners must be pretty dumb. LOL.

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                        • JJRuelz
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                          #42
                          Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

                          Originally posted by VAWereWolf65
                          Tf do you mean see more than analytics? You tried to use curry's off dribble shooting as an argument, But korver shoots a better percentage off dribble too!

                          You're contradicting yourself. You're saying numbers don't matter but they quite obviously do. Even if we use currys best season, he still only shot around 45%. Korver shot 53% his best season...
                          He shot 53% when he took 2 SHOTS A GAME!!!!!

                          Curry's best season he took 11 3pters and made 45%, if you even that out with korver's 6 attempt season, that's 11 - 6 = 5. 45% + 5 = 50%. That's how you even out those statistics.

                          Korver's 53% season with 2 attempts is: 11 - 2 = 9 53% - 9 = Korver would end up 44% with if he took 11 3s.

                          Curry's best 3pt shooting season is better than both of the ones you're comparing to for Korver.

                          Finally both of them this season even out to (when taking 10 3pters):
                          Korver: 40% Curry: 41%

                          So is that not better?
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                          • VAWereWolf65
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                            #43
                            Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

                            Originally posted by MadManCometh
                            So Korver is a better shooter?

                            So the 2K devs must not know Basketball?

                            And how dare Steph get a 200 mil extension when Korver makes a very small fraction of that? The owners must be pretty dumb. LOL.
                            Who the hell said Korver was the better player that deserves a better contract than curry? The dude is probably the least athletic guard in the whole league and he has no inside or defensive game. I never said he was the better player, I said he was the better shooter.

                            And honestly i've questioned at times whether the 2k devs know basketball. Sometimes it seems like they don't
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                            • VAWereWolf65
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                              #44
                              Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

                              Originally posted by JJRuelz
                              He shot 53% when he took 2 SHOTS A GAME!!!!!

                              Curry's best season he took 11 3pters and made 45%, if you even that out with korver's 6 attempt season, that's 11 - 6 = 5. 45% + 5 = 50%. That's how you even out those statistics.

                              Korver's 53% season with 2 attempts is: 11 - 2 = 9 53% - 9 = Korver would end up 44% with if he took 11 3s.

                              Curry's best 3pt shooting season is better than both of the ones you're comparing to for Korver.

                              Finally both of them this season even out to (when taking 10 3pters):
                              Korver: 40% Curry: 41%

                              So is that not better?
                              Where does your idea come from that just because they take more shots a game, the percentage will go down?
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                              • MadManCometh
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                                #45
                                Re: NBA 2K18 | Player Rating Predictions: Point Guards

                                Originally posted by Totalpackage83
                                Where did I say that it should be based just on percentage? With that being said, there is nothing objective about giving a guy who shot 41% a 99 3pt rating. Especially after they already broke the game to give him crazy extended range. He has a ton of badges that help with the level of difficulty when it comes to shots that he takes. After all, that is why badges were introduced. He shouldn't be a 99 3pt. Saying he should makes you sound like a fan boy.

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                                Lol you and your boyfriend been talkin all about percentages. Lol.

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