NBA 2K18 AI Improvements Blog From Scott O’Gallagher

[Junior Moe]

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Lol you just harped on people for being enthusiastic about an actual breakdown of changes with included video clips and then inserted a plug for Live like it's gods gift to basketball. Congratulations, you managed to do two of the most annoying things on this forum in one post. Crap on people for being excited, and tell them why another game is better.

If this is how you feel, wait for the prelude then, preferably quietly. You don't have to tell us why you don't care about this blog or why we should be playing a different game.

Why do these Live guys spend so much time here if that game is so great?

[bigeastbumrush]

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The Ben Simmons clip -

How is that not a 3 second defensive violation?

My concern (especially against the CPU) would be too many wide open 3s especially in transition where the defensive player is "confused" as where to be while lagging in transition. This plagued 2K17.

[GoDucks1224]

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Why do these Live guys spend so much time here if that game is so great?

They're like hipsters. They have to tell you why the less popular thing they like is better than your popular thing or else it's not worth it.

[Pound4pound]

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Good job 2K as a simhead this is the stuff I look forward to hearing about the most..

Only thing I didn't like was in the clip with Fultz running pick n roll & Ben Simmons in the corner. Yes the defender should play off but he literally ran under the rim and left Simmons open.. Even though he's not a shooter Fultz still makes that pass and then you have Simmons going downhill towards the rim.. Playing off doesn't mean both feet in the paint just saying.. And giving their best player that much room to catch n drive is not smart.. A simple fix just thought I'd say it in case nobody else noticed but otherwise this was perfect..

[GoDucks1224]

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Good job 2K as a simhead this is the stuff I look forward to hearing about the most..



Only thing I didn't like was in the clip with Fultz running pick n roll & Ben Simmons in the corner. Yes the defender should play off but he literally ran under the rim and left Simmons open.. Even though he's not a shooter Fultz still makes that pass and then you have Simmons going downhill towards the rim.. Playing off doesn't mean both feet in the paint just saying.. And giving their best player that much room to catch n drive is not smart.. A simple fix just thought I'd say it in case nobody else noticed but otherwise this was perfect..

Yeah that was the one that concerned me too. Hell, Ben can make midrange shots occasionally too. All he has to do is take a couple steps forward and shoot.

[eko718]

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Alright why is Ty Lue an A in every category? This dude couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag without LeCoach helping him.

And Kerr is a B+ defensively while being an A- potential, lower than Lue?! Warriors have been a top 3 defensive team every year of Kerr's reign! This is madness!

But on a more serious note, all these improvements look and sound great. I can't wait to play!

I do have a problem with the coach ratings. It seems that some of the coach ratings are massaged to impact the overall team ratings in a particular way. They are widely inaccurate.

[CMH]

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Wow. Love this so much.

Might actually be interested in handling more of the coaching options with this much control.

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[GoDucks1224]

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I do have a problem with the coach ratings. It seems that some of the coach ratings are massaged to impact the overall team ratings in a particular way. They are widely inaccurate.

Yeah, and if that is the case I don't know why the Cavs would need to be higher overall defensively than the Warriors. The Warriors are vastly superior on the defensive side of the ball.

[Impetuous65]

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delete Msg

[eko718]

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Yeah, and if that is the case I don't know why the Cavs would need to be higher overall defensively than the Warriors. The Warriors are vastly superior on the defensive side of the ball.

Agreed. This is one of the first things I adjust when editing rosters. Ty Lue is not an outstanding coach in any regard really...if you reduce that A to a B or C+ on defense, that might correct that issue.

[OGSPORTS]

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This! It would be great if Scott could provide clarification on the topics mentioned above.

As soon as you change a particular setting in the defensive settings menu, you are overwriting that part of ACE.

For example:

If the Lakers are going over on all D.Rose PnR's and you decide that you want go under? That's the change that's going to happen. Everything else will stay in tact.

[J_Posse]

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The Ben Simmons clip -

How is that not a 3 second defensive violation?

My concern (especially against the CPU) would be too many wide open 3s especially in transition where the defensive player is "confused" as where to be while lagging in transition. This plagued 2K17.

Yes, yes, yes....

I appreciate that Scott and Da Czar put in work on the AI front, but if the CPU is still doing all the braindead things in that video I posted (credit to Alabamarob) then this is all a moot point. I hope, hope, hope they cleaned up these huge AI issues from 2K17, but that blog did nothing to quell my concern.

from Bills Backer/Spurs Nation HQ

[OGSPORTS]

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I love all of the responses, guys! I plan to respond to as many as I can. It looks like some of you are just finishing this blog. I want this to set in before I go into deep dive mode with you. Apologies for the length!

[scottyp180]

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Just incredible. Really happy they used clips.

Stuff like this is what's making me SMH at "2k17.5" talk.

This is a fundamental change to every single game you're going to play which is huge.

Can't wait to see it in action.

Every year we get the "2k.5 upgrade" comments. I guess some people expect the game to look completely different each year which is unrealistic. I feel like a lot of improvements and changes with 2k aren't things that immediately jump out at you. Take these clips for example. If we weren't told what to look for and what was updated a lot of us would probably be wondering if this was 2k17 or 2k18.

For me the changes are most evident once you play and spend a little time with the game. Graphical changes are most evident once you are watching it on TV. The feel is typically noticeable right away. Some years if feels the same or similar, other years there is a noticeable difference in feel. But the biggest changes usually surface after spending time with the game and being able to determine what would or wouldn't happen the previous year. That's where changes presented in this blog will show there face.

[WTF]

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I love all of the responses, guys! I plan to respond to as many as I can. It looks like some of you are just finishing this blog. I want this to set in before I go into deep dive mode with you. Apologies for the length!

You ought to apologize. That's all you could come up with?