New CAP system

[Junior Moe]

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Yeah...I can see that side of it. Those randomly generated draft CAPs were a mess. It would be nice if they could let us take various presets and sculpt them though.


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Yeah, I hope the sculpting is still in for those who prefer that level of detail. It would be even better with the now 30 head models vs only one. We'll see soon enough...

[dilladawg4]

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Maybe i just missed something, but did they really get rid of facial sculpting? Wtf that's a major step backwards

Small price to pay...at least you can still edit players and rosters...

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[Sellaz32]

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Small price to pay...at least you can still edit players and rosters...

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Huge price to pay if you want to complete the classic rosters.


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[VDusen04]

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Is sculpting confirmed as being out? Definitively? Does that mean TGor won't be able to create masterpieces like this anymore?

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[Sellaz32]

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Is sculpting confirmed as being out? Definitively? Does that mean TGor won't be able to create masterpieces like this anymore?



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It's not looking good. TGor's creations often looked better than the default players in the game. I understand the need to get rid of the mutant looking faces. And the CAP system definitely had its flaws. White players always looked the same. So improvement is a good thing...It's just frustrating when they remove a feature.


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[VAWereWolf65]

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If they wanted to fix mutant faces they should've just come up with a better algorithm to determine a players face. That's no reason to remove sculpting from the game

Or maybe just leave it up to the Draft Class creators who spend hours, days, weeks and months trying to create realistic and creative draft classes for the community to use

[soamazen23]

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Question.. Dont know if this was answered or not but if i create a player outside of my career. Is face scan going to be available? Does anyone know the answer to this?

[Junior Moe]

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If they wanted to fix mutant faces they should've just come up with a better algorithm to determine a players face. That's no reason to remove sculpting from the game

Or maybe just leave it up to the Draft Class creators who spend hours, days, weeks and months trying to create realistic and creative draft classes for the community to use

They have fixed the mutant faces with this new CAP system. And we still don't know if sculpting has been removed all together. Furthermore, some of us like to play 5, 10, 15 years in ML and don't have time to waste waiting on draft classes.
Now the generated players will look 10 times better. Hell and we could tweak them if we like. Draft Class makers (like Simworld) can still make unique looking classes. It may be harder to make "real" players I suppose but it's a worthwhile trade off, IMO. We shouldnt be seeing subtractions though.

[VAWereWolf65]

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They have fixed the mutant faces with this new CAP system. And we still don't know if sculpting has been removed all together. Furthermore, some of us like to play 5, 10, 15 years in ML and don't have time to waste waiting on draft classes.
Now the generated players will look 10 times better. Hell and we could tweak them if we like. Draft Class makers (like Simworld) can still make unique looking classes. It may be harder to make "real" players I suppose but it's a worthwhile trade off, IMO. We shouldnt be seeing subtractions though.

I never said you had to make draft classes. People who make draft classes make them for people like you to download who don't want to waste time making them and just want to play the game. If you don't want to wait, then 2k could've easily found a better way to make more realistic generated classes than removing sculpting

Now as we start going deep into MyLeague we're going to start seeing the same generic faces over and over because all they have is these stupid presets.

Also, FranchisePlay said in his podcast that when he was checking the offline CAP system, it was like the MyPlayer CAP system where you just choose a preset and morph it's features

Also, what are guys like Tgor and other cap creators supposed to do now?

[CyberOps]

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As i lkeep saying lets not judge until we get the game and try.

[Sellaz32]

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As i lkeep saying lets not judge until we get the game and try.

I understand this sentiment. But I would much rather vent and have a gradual meltdown spaced out several days before the game's release so I can come to terms with it and enjoy the game more at release. Lol


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[CyberOps]

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I understand this sentiment. But I would much rather vent and have a gradual meltdown spaced out several days before the game's release so I can come to terms with it and enjoy the game more at release. Lol


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I'm sure you will still work your magic and make some great players, but yeah i understand what you're saying

[Sellaz32]

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I'm sure you will still work your magic and make some great players, but yeah i understand what you're saying

Appreciate that. I had the thought that maybe they created a bunch of actual players and divided their faces up into different presets. Then we would just have to put faces together like a puzzle. Lol Too good to be true I'm sure.


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[TrueHoliday]

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Can we change skin tones in "Vitals" or are the skin tones of preset faces locked?

Not a fan of them removing facial hair editing in favor of premade styles either.
One step forward, one step back. :/

[Junior Moe]

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I never said you had to make draft classes. People who make draft classes make them for people like you to download who don't want to waste time making them and just want to play the game. If you don't want to wait, then 2k could've easily found a better way to make more realistic generated classes than removing sculpting

Now as we start going deep into MyLeague we're going to start seeing the same generic faces over and over because all they have is these stupid presets.

Also, FranchisePlay said in his podcast that when he was checking the offline CAP system, it was like the MyPlayer CAP system where you just choose a preset and morph it's features

Also, what are guys like Tgor and other cap creators supposed to do now?

Point is that 2K has found a way to make better generated draft class heads/faces. This looks good. Now the gulf between stock players and drafted/created players wont be as wide. Draft class makers have even more tools at their disposal to make realistic looking players. Especially White guys who always looked weird. You say 2K could have easily done this or that, how do you know?

And if the models start repeating we can edit their faces/heads/hair in ML if we like to differentiate them more. That, to me, is better than having Neanderthal looking players who's heads/faces we can't edit running around. In one of my MLs the 76ers have this amazing European SG named Turk, but he looks like one of those Geico cavemen. It's hard to even look at. Now those days are gone.

If the sculpting is gone then it will suck. Like I said, we shouldn't be subtracting at this stage. I imagine it would be harder to create "real" people with this system. It's not a perfect system but it's better I think.