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  • de5m0n
    Banned
    • Oct 2015
    • 996

    #31
    Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

    Originally posted by Jursii
    So many bad decisions the past 2 years that completely ruin the experience.

    1. Having an on/off cap for speed boosting. Instead of the 180 archetypes + height/weight options, we will now see very few builds everywhere. No other MMO does this and speed boosting should be incrementally more effective from 70-99 instead.

    2. Not seeing all the badges when choosing your archetype combo.

    3. Not seeing attribute caps.

    4. Not knowing how much height/weight/wingspan affect the caps. That arrow is useless and max wingspan was glitched last year.

    5. Having your rep reset when trying another archetype/position. This is hilarious with all the reasons above in mind. They will lose so much revenue from VC.

    I have only played 2K for 3 years and their greed for micro transactions have increasingly disgusted mere year over year. But it looks like they are completely unaware of what eSports demand. There is zero transparency.

    And don't get me started about the servers. FIFA, NHL, COD, BF1 etc. All have enjoyable servers with more demanding elements, meanwhile 2K's servers couldn't even connect on the first hours of the prelude.

    I wanted to pre-order, but this is a deal breaker for me. Relying on the community instead of transparency is lazy and unforgivable year over year.
    FACTS ***** FACTS is what i was thinking to myself reading your reply lol.

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    • jk31
      MVP
      • Sep 2014
      • 2654

      #32
      Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

      short reply: just dont buy VC then. be satisfied with What you can reach by just playing the game.

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      • ph33
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 3261

        #33
        Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

        Originally posted by de5m0n
        They spent significant amount of time developing ways to increase the profit with the slimiest tactics instead of improving the game. I bet the pro am arena will stay the same because who got time to change the court?
        Forgot to mention, this is another annoying thing. In 2k16 I put a lot of $$$ into it, and they had a FAR better experience in Pro-AM (We had actual arenas!)

        The next year, the entire experience took a step backwards. Pro-AM provided me with a lot of really fun and competitive experiences (Except for the occasional sharpshooter+brick wall heavy teams) But let's not forget the following:

        1. Legendary free throw timeout cheese (It did get patched though, but it was still awful)
        2. We play in a high school gym that has no atmosphere whatsoever
        3. This happened ALL year, but October was at its worst. In Pro-AM arenas, the game would start, but anywhere from 2-3 people could get kicked on either side...and you'd still be forced to play the game or take an L. My team was top 50 at one point and then we just had disconnect after disconnect and it killed the game for some of us.
        4. If you still play 2k17 to this day, there's a good chance that all the players from your MyCourt won't make it to the walk-on arena. We still have to do a roll call as it's loading...
        5. Every year people can spam steal at inbounders, straight up run into them while they're out of bounds, but nothing happens. I hope this gets fixed?

        So it makes us wonder, we gave them a lot of money but where is it going to make our experience better? I guess you could say Neighborhood, but what new improved experience does the Neighborhood provide besides 1v1, jumpshot game, and 4 point challenge? None of that applies to the Pro-AM crowd who is responsible for a lot of the micros. We'll see when the game comes out but I'm doubtful anyways. Maybe team celebrations will cost 5k now instead of 2k.
        Last edited by ph33; 09-11-2017, 10:39 AM.

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        • coachcolbert
          Pro
          • Oct 2014
          • 612

          #34
          Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

          this is all i was trying to say a few weeks ago. personally ive hit the "nah 2k you tripping.." wall

          the ONLY way this BS stops is if we dont buy the game new AND DONT BUY VC! if youre frustrated that is. if youre happy with the way the game is there is no need to reply or comment about those of us that are frustrated

          more and more i see folks on here expressing the SAME EXACT things ph33 and I have been saying for about a month or so.

          its HARD, but if youre really frustrated with how 2k is treating us, you have to say it with your dollar!

          If youre that frustrated with 2k..

          DONT BUY 2K NEW, DONT BUY VC

          its the only way we'll be heard, otherwise - we're just venting

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          • ph33
            MVP
            • Oct 2014
            • 3261

            #35
            Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

            Originally posted by coachcolbert
            this is all i was trying to say a few weeks ago. personally ive hit the "nah 2k you tripping.." wall

            the ONLY way this BS stops is if we dont buy the game new AND DONT BUY VC! if youre frustrated that is. if youre happy with the way the game is there is no need to reply or comment about those of us that are frustrated

            more and more i see folks on here expressing the SAME EXACT things ph33 and I have been saying for about a month or so.

            its HARD, but if youre really frustrated with how 2k is treating us, you have to say it with your dollar!

            If youre that frustrated with 2k..

            DONT BUY 2K NEW, DONT BUY VC

            its the only way we'll be heard, otherwise - we're just venting
            Yep. But I think most of this venting is born out of trolls trying to tell us we're being irrational, and that we should act like "adults" and just accept things as they are.

            It's good to see there's a number of people who are on board with this idea though. You see what they did with the lousy CAPs and hidden attributes...as someone else here said (Sorry I forgot)...they get one crowd, and you could be next...now a lot more people are upset.

            They made users in 2k14 pay to change rotations...in an offline franchise. Funny how that crowd got pissed and got them to make a change when they voiced how silly it was to do so...because their bottom line got affected.
            Last edited by ph33; 09-11-2017, 10:47 AM.

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            • Thetruth9012
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 1287

              #36
              Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

              Originally posted by ph33
              Yep. But I think most of this venting is born out of trolls trying to tell us we're being irrational, and that we should act like "adults" and just accept things as they are.

              It's good to see there's a number of people who are on board with this idea though. You see what they did with the lousy CAPs and hidden attributes...as someone else here said (Sorry I forgot)...they get one crowd, and you could be next...now a lot more people are upset.
              Well we accepted a lot of BS through the 2k life but this is one of the most important aspects of mycareer being able to know my stats before upgrading.

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              • de5m0n
                Banned
                • Oct 2015
                • 996

                #37
                Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

                Originally posted by ph33
                Forgot to mention, this is another annoying thing. In 2k16 I put a lot of $$$ into it, and they had a FAR better experience in Pro-AM (We had actual arenas!)

                The next year, the entire experience took a step backwards. Pro-AM provided me with a lot of really fun and competitive experiences (Except for the occasional sharpshooter+brick wall heavy teams) But let's not forget the following:

                1. Legendary free throw timeout cheese (It did get patched though, but it was still awful)
                2. We play in a high school gym that has no atmosphere whatsoever
                3. This happened ALL year, but October was at its worst. In Pro-AM arenas, the game would start, but anywhere from 2-3 people could get kicked on either side...and you'd still be forced to play the game or take an L. My team was top 50 at one point and then we just had disconnect after disconnect and it killed the game for some of us.
                4. If you still play 2k17 to this day, there's a good chance that all the players from your MyCourt won't make it to the walk-on arena. We still have to do a roll call as it's loading...
                5. Every year people can spam steal at inbounders, straight up run into them while they're out of bounds, but nothing happens. I hope this gets fixed?

                So it makes us wonder, we gave them a lot of money but where is it going to make our experience better? I guess you could say Neighborhood, but what new improved experience does the Neighborhood provide besides 1v1, jumpshot game, and 4 point challenge? None of that applies to the Pro-AM crowd who is responsible for a lot of the micros. We'll see when the game comes out but I'm doubtful anyways. Maybe team celebrations will cost 5k now instead of 2k.
                I still play walk on and it still only works about 75% of the time.

                You also forgot the running into referees when running to the corner. Never fixed.

                Let's see how the pro am will work this year. I will be shocked if it works the first second or third week after release.

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                • TheMattyT
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 99

                  #38
                  Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

                  Mike Wang's response to all this was completely unsatisfactory as well. Basically: " Don't worry about numbers, just pick a build that sounds good and run with it."

                  I was excited after playing 2KU on the prelude. Gameplay was the best its been in a long time. Then I realized they had this little thing going on. I really don't know how else to describe it aside from what OP said: They're pulling the wool over our eyes. This feels SUPER shady to me...

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                  • Barncore
                    Formerly known as Barnsey
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 1337

                    #39
                    Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

                    People are definitely overreacting, making out as if 2K are acting maliciously. They're probably just trying to encourage more organic & less numbersy sorta experience.

                    If you want to see your player attributes, why can't you just go look at your player profile? Or is there something i'm missing here? (I don't really play MyPlayer)

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                    • ph33
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 3261

                      #40
                      Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

                      Originally posted by Barnsey
                      People are definitely overreacting, making out as if 2K are acting maliciously. They're probably just trying to encourage more organic & less numbersy sorta experience.

                      If you want to see your player attributes, why can't you just go look at your player profile? Or is there something i'm missing here? (I don't really play MyPlayer)
                      When they were working on the game, not one person bothered to point out "Hey...something's off here. Shouldn't our users see what it is they're upgrading to before they hit submit? Like they have every single year?" I'm sure someone pointed it out, but perhaps it was someone else's decision to omit. Either way, I don't think their intention was "More organic and less numbers".

                      People want to see what their player can get to with attributes, and this all becomes a big guessing game this year. For example, some dunks require 80 driving dunk. What happens if you create a guy hoping you can get that animation, but your max dunk is 79 and you don't find out till the end, after you spent all your VC? You are SOL in that situation.

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                      • infemous
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1568

                        #41
                        Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

                        Originally posted by Barnsey
                        People are definitely overreacting, making out as if 2K are acting maliciously. They're probably just trying to encourage more organic & less numbersy sorta experience.

                        If you want to see your player attributes, why can't you just go look at your player profile? Or is there something i'm missing here? (I don't really play MyPlayer)
                        Not to be rude but if you don't play my player your opinion is kinda voided.

                        It's about knowing what you are spending your VC on before you spend it.

                        If you watched the video or read the thread you'd probably have known that and your commeat would have had a shred of validity.

                        Before dismissing something people are rightfully frustrated about and are actively trying to make a positive change about I'd suggest you actually enter the conversation with some prior knowledge.

                        People such as yourself constantly saying you're overreacting or this is isn't a problem are the sole reason people such as myself have to write on forums get the gaming experience we want.
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                        • Barncore
                          Formerly known as Barnsey
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1337

                          #42
                          Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

                          Relax. I watched the video. Believe it or not, opposing views is what creates discussion. Look at how passionate i made you

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                          • infemous
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 1568

                            #43
                            Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

                            Originally posted by Barnsey
                            Relax. I watched the video. Believe it or not, opposing views is what creates discussion. Look at how passionate i made you
                            Then you're a troll.

                            Gtfoh
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                            • yungsta404
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 547

                              #44
                              Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

                              I think 2k took away the ability to see your attributes in response to people re-creating their players outside of mycareer and realizing that their overalls were misrepresented lol.

                              A maxed out myplayer was really an 80 something overall outside of mycareer.

                              That is the only explanation that I have.

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                              • hyretic
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 199

                                #45
                                Re: Inability to see attribute numbers on upgrade screen

                                Originally posted by yungsta404
                                I think 2k took away the ability to see your attributes in response to people re-creating their players outside of mycareer and realizing that their overalls were misrepresented lol.

                                A maxed out myplayer was really an 80 something overall outside of mycareer.

                                That is the only explanation that I have.
                                It's a good guess, but Mike Wang did say that we will be able to see our attributes somewhere, we just can't see what we're upgrading to before we spend the VC.

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