MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

[LorenzoDC]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

Couldn't this be fixed by lowering the draft class quality?

It's not necessarily that simple. Think of lowering quality like moving a triangle up or down, where the pointy top of the triangle is the top of the potential rating distribution of the class.

But what about the shape of the triangle? Is it pointy and skinny at the top, or is is wider and flat? One of 2K's past problems has been that the average drafted player ratings and potential have been good but the draft classes didn't produce enough stars to keep the league realistic over multiple years. So in the NBA now 2k might have 9-12 guys rated over 90. But once those guys age out of the league, there would only be maybe 2-5 guys over 90. That's a league without enough stars.

So if you try to fix that by jacking up the draft class quality - pushing up the triangle - you can get more stars but you also get a LOT more guys with ratings in the 80's - because 2k's "triangle" is too fat. The result then is the league is filled with too many high contracts signed to those higher potential young players, everyone runs out of cap, and we see all the silly free agents out there with 84 ratings unsigned.

So, it's not as simple as changing draft class strength if the distribution of talent strength across the draft class is not varied enough. 2k needs to narrow that imaginary triangle, make it more pointy at the top - at least based on what was in the game last year.

[SavoyPrime]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

I was so hyped to play, but now it's like **** I now have to wait for simworld to fix 2k..... again

This. Every year it is this. I can't do NBA 2K without Simworld being involved. Especially the draft classes.

[SavoyPrime]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

Especially when you can just use custom draft classes and not ever see the issue whatsoever.

The issue with that is the availability of QUALITY draft classes on X1 and PS4. If you go deep into MyLeague, there's not enough custom draft classes to cover it. Especially on the PS4.

[Whomario]

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The issue with that is the availability of QUALITY draft classes on X1 and PS4. If you go deep into MyLeague, there's not enough custom draft classes to cover it. Especially on the PS4.

And it does not matter as every draft class is custom, since all are created by the game and just because you then edit them to be "custom" does not change the problem at all. No idea why that guy would think so, unless he has never actually created a draft class.

[Barncore]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

So the draft and stash players get duplicated and re-enter the draft, AND this happens? Maaaaan.

How do 2K have such obvious oversights every year? Extremely frustrating. They hype us up with these blogs and then i can't wait to get my hands on my preorder, then i have to wait a bunch of months for them to fix the broken MyLeague mode.

Direct quote from davez:

But, what we typically do is run 80-year soaks to try and tweak and tune things like generation, progression, and simulator tuning over time. We also do a soak where we run season 1 80 times to try and get the stats correct for the first season. We'll do these soaks, analyze the data, then make tweaks and run them again.

I guess the only testing they're doing is looking at spreadsheets.

I say it every year, but why not hire a handful of people from operationsports to obsess over MyLeague mode for a week or two? We would find oversights like this in the blink of an eye. It would cost them next to nothing. Hell, i would do it for free.

Aaarrrrggghhh i'm so frustrated. This happens every year. My excitement rise and then disappointment falls. I try to tell myself not to get my expectations too high about the new release but i get sucked in every time.

[Gramps91]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

So the draft and stash players get duplicated and re-enter the draft, AND this happens? Maaaaan.

How do 2K have such obvious oversights every year? Extremely frustrating. They hype us up with these blogs and then i can't wait to get my hands on my preorder, then i have to wait a bunch of months for them to fix the broken MyLeague mode.

Direct quote from davez:

I guess the only testing they're doing is looking at spreadsheets.

I say it every year, but why not hire a handful of people from operationsports to obsess over MyLeague mode for a week or two? We would find oversights like this in the blink of an eye. It would cost them next to nothing. Hell, i would do it for free.

Aaarrrrggghhh i'm so frustrated. This happens every year. My excitement rise and then disappointment falls. I try to tell myself not to get my expectations too high about the new release but i get sucked in every time.

Some are also reporting that Centers shrink and PG's grow over time. It's weird. I haven't even touched the game yet because I've been at work all day but it's definitely disappointing.

[BluFu]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

That may or may not be a problem. What we have to figure out is how many of them reach their peak potential, given injuries and peak end ratings, and how many stars are in the league 5 and 10 years down the road. If the number of stars in the league long term remains realistic, then the high potential draft prospects are not a problem.

I think you're misinterpreting what I meant by generational. These guys enter the league in the high 80s low 90s in OVR. They begin their career as superstars. There's no way that the number of stars can remain realistic when a superstar player is being plugged in every season.

[Fredette]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

So this sounds really bad for me. Want to start MYGM now and not waiting 1 or 2 months till it's patched.

Can this problem be fixed with a downloadable draft class with real players? Or with this DRAFT slider before starting a new MYGM??

[Pizarro24]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

I think you're misinterpreting what I meant by generational. These guys enter the league in the high 80s low 90s in OVR. They begin their career as superstars. There's no way that the number of stars can remain realistic when a superstar player is being plugged in every season.

On default Draft Class Quality you have those guys nearly every second year.
They enter the NBA with Ratings like Kawhi Leonard, not only they are awesome shooters (scorers), but they have great defensive Stats too.
I lowered the DC Quality to 25 and you still have them every 3-4 years.

[Whomario]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

So this sounds really bad for me. Want to start MYGM now and not waiting 1 or 2 months till it's patched.

Can this problem be fixed with a downloadable draft class with real players? Or with this DRAFT slider before starting a new MYGM??

Why would it make a lick of difference ? Those are created the same way (by the faulty game code) and then mangled by the faulty code of myleague/mygm . Just because a human went and edited it in between ?

Thats like fixing a broken motor by applying a new coat of paint to the car it sits in

I appreciate you looking for a workaround but this is a bug that can only be adressed on 2ks end.

[extremeskins04]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

Why would it make a lick of difference ? Those are created the same way (by the faulty game code) and then mangled by the faulty code of myleague/mygm . Just because a human went and edited it in between ?

Thats like fixing a broken motor by applying a new coat of paint to the car it sits in

I appreciate you looking for a workaround but this is a bug that can only be adressed on 2ks end.

SimWorld has bailed the community out before with their complete roster and draft class updates.

[Whomario]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

SimWorld has bailed the community out before with their complete roster and draft class updates.

And how would that facelift prevent the game code from shrinking/growing players after being imported into the game mode ? Because they get already are created normal-sized and only “mutate“ during myleague sim time.

[Whomario]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

So, i went into 2 of my other test sims and did not see this issue ... Since both were only in 2020 i started another for good measure where i set it up how i like (MyLeague Settings) and started off loading 3 draft classes that i have been working on for my own use in the first 3 seasons. When the issue did not occur up until then i used classes created in the mode after that ... In 2023 now and no weird shrinking/growing ... I even alternated between creating storylines after loading the draft classes (i think the game then slightly alters the rookies from the class) and not doing that, still no problems.

Didn't use a custom roster for any of the tries, did not allow any league rule changes.

So yeah, something must have triggered it (i mean, i still have the save where it happened ...) but i'll be damned if i can pinpoint why ...

The only thing i did in one and not the other is editing the euro-stash guys in their last Euro year onto regular contracts at the end of each season. So this might cause this in some way ...

[DaleyBlind]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

I have tested till 2022 and have not seen the Player shrinking or growing bug yet.

I have seen alot of old rookies though i.e 25 and 26 Years old.

[Gramps91]

Re: MyLeague/MyGM Draft Classes are broken

Old rookies don't really bother me all that bad. Especially if they were euro players to begin with. Could it be the growing and shrinking was just a fluke in some way. Maybe just one unlucky test run. Could 2K fix such a thing in a simple update rather than a patch?


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