KOTAKU : NBA 2K18 is Riddled With Microtransactions

[trandoanhung1991]

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They should really just split online and offline into 2 different games and leave VC online. Offline should go back to skill points and the old individual skill system, not this bucket crap.

[ksuttonjr76]

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They should really just split online and offline into 2 different games and leave VC online. Offline should go back to skill points and the old individual skill system, not this bucket crap.

I hear this suggestion all the time. Is there really people who would play MyCareer offline and only offline?

[newhere]

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I hear this suggestion all the time. Is there really people who would play MyCareer offline and only offline?

I would. Remove the pay 2 win from the game. I play mostly franchise modes and even if I play them online I don't need VC for that because you play with a set roster. I play MyCareer to have some fun. I don't bother with the Parks. It's not real basketball, it's too much showboating and other ****, it's too hard to find a running mate who plays basketball that compliments how you play yourself. I also hate online lag affecting me when I'm forced to be in the Neighbourhood and what not.

Give me my offline game back and I'll happily play along. I'm fine with not being able to take MyPlayer to the Park. But I can not buy accessories, hairstyles, tattoos, animations and what not offline. So why not have an offline mode? You could remove the nonsensical archetypes and let me just run crazy with a player who, if I play long enough, is good at everything, just like you were able to be in 2k11 and 2k12. Remove the nonsense badge restrictions. If I earn them then I earn them. Make my player realistically rated once I get my draft position.

You have two massive improvements if you seperate the 2: You take VC out of any mode that isn't online so complaints from a lot of people will instantly die down. You also circumvent the complaint of many people that it's a full priced game but pay2win. Well the online component is extra so MyTeam and The Park would be basically free2play extra games. You could also finally open up the flood gates, up the prices and allow players to take their currency with them forward because they paid for it. Finally you could possibly stop churning out a new game every year. Instead you could simply improve the base game and sell that to the offline players (new rosters etc.) as a DLC for 30 bucks every year all the while keeping the park open and competitive and VC rolling in for 2-3-4 years until those people have to pay for a new installment.

It's the fairest and easiest solution to everything. 2k gets to keep their VC, you eliminate the grind from the core game offline, you unburden your developement team, you could conceivably make more money with VC as people will say: well I can use that VC and that character online for 3-4 years and I can carry my VC going forward and not lose it, so I might as well invest in it if I need it. You would also draw a clear distinction between the more e-sports part of the game and the core game. Furthermore you could actually focus on a great story and career mode.

I have always envisioned a more long term career mode in the spirit of MLB the Show. You pick your race, nationality and background. That determines how you start. Every player starts of at highschool with a full season. The background will be differently. Start as a black player in an inner city with a single parent (that you get to design from head to toe) and you will most likely play in a ****ty gym and do AAU ball and might have to watch out for predatory agents and what not and chase a college scholarship. You would also get access to different personality badges. Start as a white European you will probably play in a decent highschool and get to decide whether to move to the US to attend a college program or turn pro at 16 or 17 in Europe. You play at least a full season of College or Pros in Europe/China to raise your draft value and improve your player. Along the lines are more trials and tribulations shaping your players character and his draft stock. If you decide it is high enough after year one you will declare for the draft, if you decide it's not high enough you can go another year.

You will also not be picked in an NBA Draft in 2017 and have the same guy on the team with you that originally got picked in your spot. Every year you have fairly high draft picks who don't come over or flame out so, why not start your player in 2014 or 2013. 2k knows the story of that season so you might change it a bit but you won't completely upend it, but you can get drafted without having two supposed number 1 picks on your team (you and Markell Fultz). You yourself will also know the moves that happen in free agency so you can try and steer yourself towards... say Lebron's Cavs instead of Kevin Love or move to Boston before they sign Al Horford etc. This mode could be sooo deep and so long before you even start the first NBA game. You could play in streetball tournaments in Venice Beach and Rucker Park like Dr. J did, you could hold Basketball clinics for kids to improve your standing a star in the league. It could be so immersive once you take out the focus on VC and the Park.

[jagsrock95]

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IMO splitting the mode into offline and online still doesn't fix the problem. people want to be able to compete with their player, it's a focal point of the mode! Why should I have to suffer through a play 2 play system if I want to play online with friends? Splitting the modes is definitely not a fair solution. VC isn't fair to begin with. It's a **** system that 2k has proven they can't operate responsibly. And let's say they do split the modes do you really believe 2k is gonna spend time to make sure offline myplayer is as robust as online? They aren't gonna spend time making it some kind of special mode, it'll just be a stripped down alternative. Splitting would be settling.

[nddot]

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Start as a black player in an inner city with a single parent (that you get to design from head to toe) and you will most likely play in a ****ty gym and do AAU ball and might have to watch out for predatory agents and what not and chase a college scholarship. You would also get access to different personality badges. Start as a white European you will probably play in a decent highschool and get to decide whether to move to the US to attend a college program or turn pro at 16 or 17 in Europe. You play at least a full season of College or Pros in Europe/China to raise your draft value and improve your player. Along the lines are more trials and tribulations shaping your players character and his draft stock. If you decide it is high enough after year one you will declare for the draft, if you decide it's not high enough you can go another year.

Come on man. Black player with a single parent ? Whats up with the lazy *** stereotype ?





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[Mweemwee]

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I have always envisioned a more long term career mode in the spirit of MLB the Show. You pick your race, nationality and background. That determines how you start. Every player starts of at highschool with a full season. The background will be differently. Start as a black player in an inner city with a single parent (that you get to design from head to toe) and you will most likely play in a ****ty gym and do AAU ball and might have to watch out for predatory agents and what not and chase a college scholarship. You would also get access to different personality badges. Start as a white European you will probably play in a decent highschool and get to decide whether to move to the US to attend a college program or turn pro at 16 or 17 in Europe. You play at least a full season of College or Pros in Europe/China to raise your draft value and improve your player. Along the lines are more trials and tribulations shaping your players character's and his draft stock. If you decide it is high enough after year one you will declare for the draft, if you decide it's not high enough you can go another year.

Wow dude. Did you really just say that all black people playing this game should start at a disadvantage because of their colour? Like the harsh realities of life aren't enough that you have to experience it in a video game too?

[KD23]

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I find it amazing what people can say and write without realizing how problematic their words are.

While this may seem nitpicky, it seems very steereotypical of you to typecast the "black" and "European" characters you've created for your imaginary narrative. It speaks to how you view the world and the people around you.

I would. Remove the pay 2 win from the game. I play mostly franchise modes and even if I play them online I don't need VC for that because you play with a set roster. I play MyCareer to have some fun. I don't bother with the Parks. It's not real basketball, it's too much showboating and other ****, it's too hard to find a running mate who plays basketball that compliments how you play yourself. I also hate online lag affecting me when I'm forced to be in the Neighbourhood and what not.

Give me my offline game back and I'll happily play along. I'm fine with not being able to take MyPlayer to the Park. But I can not buy accessories, hairstyles, tattoos, animations and what not offline. So why not have an offline mode? You could remove the nonsensical archetypes and let me just run crazy with a player who, if I play long enough, is good at everything, just like you were able to be in 2k11 and 2k12. Remove the nonsense badge restrictions. If I earn them then I earn them. Make my player realistically rated once I get my draft position.

You have two massive improvements if you seperate the 2: You take VC out of any mode that isn't online so complaints from a lot of people will instantly die down. You also circumvent the complaint of many people that it's a full priced game but pay2win. Well the online component is extra so MyTeam and The Park would be basically free2play extra games. You could also finally open up the flood gates, up the prices and allow players to take their currency with them forward because they paid for it. Finally you could possibly stop churning out a new game every year. Instead you could simply improve the base game and sell that to the offline players (new rosters etc.) as a DLC for 30 bucks every year all the while keeping the park open and competitive and VC rolling in for 2-3-4 years until those people have to pay for a new installment.

It's the fairest and easiest solution to everything. 2k gets to keep their VC, you eliminate the grind from the core game offline, you unburden your developement team, you could conceivably make more money with VC as people will say: well I can use that VC and that character online for 3-4 years and I can carry my VC going forward and not lose it, so I might as well invest in it if I need it. You would also draw a clear distinction between the more e-sports part of the game and the core game. Furthermore you could actually focus on a great story and career mode.

I have always envisioned a more long term career mode in the spirit of MLB the Show. You pick your race, nationality and background. That determines how you start. Every player starts of at highschool with a full season. The background will be differently. Start as a black player in an inner city with a single parent (that you get to design from head to toe) and you will most likely play in a ****ty gym and do AAU ball and might have to watch out for predatory agents and what not and chase a college scholarship. You would also get access to different personality badges. Start as a white European you will probably play in a decent highschool and get to decide whether to move to the US to attend a college program or turn pro at 16 or 17 in Europe. You play at least a full season of College or Pros in Europe/China to raise your draft value and improve your player. Along the lines are more trials and tribulations shaping your players character and his draft stock. If you decide it is high enough after year one you will declare for the draft, if you decide it's not high enough you can go another year.

You will also not be picked in an NBA Draft in 2017 and have the same guy on the team with you that originally got picked in your spot. Every year you have fairly high draft picks who don't come over or flame out so, why not start your player in 2014 or 2013. 2k knows the story of that season so you might change it a bit but you won't completely upend it, but you can get drafted without having two supposed number 1 picks on your team (you and Markell Fultz). You yourself will also know the moves that happen in free agency so you can try and steer yourself towards... say Lebron's Cavs instead of Kevin Love or move to Boston before they sign Al Horford etc. This mode could be sooo deep and so long before you even start the first NBA game. You could play in streetball tournaments in Venice Beach and Rucker Park like Dr. J did, you could hold Basketball clinics for kids to improve your standing a star in the league. It could be so immersive once you take out the focus on VC and the Park.

[newhere]

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IMO splitting the mode into offline and online still doesn't fix the problem. people want to be able to compete with their player, it's a focal point of the mode! Why should I have to suffer through a play 2 play system if I want to play online with friends? Splitting the modes is definitely not a fair solution. VC isn't fair to begin with. It's a **** system that 2k has proven they can't operate responsibly. And let's say they do split the modes do you really believe 2k is gonna spend time to make sure offline myplayer is as robust as online? They aren't gonna spend time making it some kind of special mode, it'll just be a stripped down alternative. Splitting would be settling.

How do you have to suffer through anything? If they want to make the Park VC dependant and sort of E-League-ish then that is their right and everyone knows that. Personally I could see threemodes. MyPark is basically for show offs. No offense but it is. It's not real basketball, it's all about swag and style over substance. So have it be the pay2win mode so keep the archetypes there. ProAM is the mode that is meant for E-League so a simple solution to make it skill based is to give you a certain amount of skill points to spread around as you will. It should be enough to get you an 85 rated player, which is a player that is competent but not an unstoppable god. You also get 1 HoF Badge 2 Gold Badges 3 Silver Badges and 4 Bronze Badges to choose from. No archetypes, no restrictions besides skilllevel (aka you need a 90 deepball to get limitless range) for the badges. You can basically set up your own player to play with friends or competitively. The only way to improve upon that player is to actually play well. Not necessarily win but amass a good grade and a decent plus minus and other advanced stats during the game.

That would actually show that you can play and it would also ensure that skill decides not VC or money. There would be no scrubs on that team and to win a game you would need tactic as you would have to scout out the opposition and their players, adjust your defensive rotations accordingly, switch between zone and man to man or put a different lineup on the floor.

So basically it would be three modes: A story driven MyCareer that is not extremely grind heavy and therefore actually follows the story of you becoming a superstar with every accessory and tattoo and what not available from the start, just not the branded stuff which would only be accessible once you sign a contract with a certain brand etc.

A competitive ProAM mode in which you play with a player that is rated an 85 and leveled to your liking with a couple of badges from the start and again with every accessory you want available (this time including branded ones) with no story and no nothing and no grinding at all. It's simply pick up and play other teams that have had the same options as you did and the only way to improve is to play good basketball (while playing bad basketball would decrease the stats back to an 85 or lose you a badge level or a badge back down to your original badges). You get to have a free practice or scrimmage on your own team court whenever you want.

A pay2win Park with your player being rated a 45 or something, wearing ****ty gear, having zero haircuts available from the start, possibly only one generic face (face scan is paid for) in 5 or 6 different skin colours, with set archetypes, badges you have to grind for and then pay to unlock them or pay for them straight away and stats you either grind for or pay for up to a 99 (no limit at 85 or something like that). For all I care they could go full out on that mode. Have your player only wear boxershorts, have once face, no haircut, no facial hair, no hair colour, possibly even only one bodytype, have you pay for face scanning, having you pay to actually play more than 5 games a day in the park, have you pay to skip the line etc. They could even have you pay to listen to music (to recoup the licensing fees), pay to have the courts decorated (or at least see the decoration), they could tax your hard earned VC if you haven't spent a minimum of 10.000 VC a day etc. I don't mind. Go for it. Just seriously milk the **** out of the mode. I'm pretty sure you'd still have thousands of players play on it just to show off how much money they can spend on a silly game.

Meanwhile everyone else who wants to play decent basketball can either play the franchise mode, have fun in a proper career mode or enjoy competitive ProAM games with their mates and scrimmage games on their team court with each other.

[newhere]

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Wow dude. Did you really just say that all black people playing this game should start at a disadvantage because of their colour? Like the harsh realities of life aren't enough that you have to experience it in a video game too?

Come on man. Black player with a single parent ? Whats up with the lazy *** stereotype ?





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Christ it was an extreme example. Didn't you read what I wrote? You get to decide your parents. So yes you can also have a black mum and dad in Europe, you can have a black mum and dad in the United States. I personally even envision picking their job which would have an influence on some of their badges. And no I didn't say they should start at a disadvantage because of their colour but because of their socio-economic situation.

Look at Flint Michigan, look at Detroit, look at Leeds Alabama, look at the south side of Chicago. I could give you hundreds of different examples and then you can check which NBA players are from there and then check how they grew up. They mainly played in ****ty gyms and were on AAU teams with guys who tried to take advantage of them. A few like Chris Webber managed to jump to a great High School that charges tuition but a lot did not. And alot of inner cities in America look like the Sudan. It's tough, money is short, schools are run down and bad. Ask those NBA players. So why not portrait that? Why not show what these athletes had to go through to get where they are? Is it somehow racist to be realistic and be honest? They overcome massive odds. Hell Allen Iverson nearly went to prison because of his skin colour before he was able to attend Georgetown.

So yes obviously life should start differently depending on your situation. If you choose that your player is from an inner city, is black and has a single mum, chances are that in the real world you have to attend the ****ties schools, struggle to be good in school because you might not get enough to eat all the time or have chores around the house and your siblings that keep your from studying and you probably live in the ****tiest part of town. That is just the sad reality of life. But you probably also are more driven to succeed, more focused and have to grow up faster so you will get advantages if you make the right choices in the Career Mode. It would be the same if you picked single white parent in an American inner city. I just chose black and inner city because my other example would be white European which to me are the two extremes you can have in the NBA. A black player who was taken advantage of during his AAU days, who was mostly likely badly educated in school and is taken advantage of in college and again badly educated because he is regarded as a commodity instead of a human being by most NCAA schools versus a white European player who probably attends a decent state school, doesn't live in a city that looks like a civil war area, might turn pro at 16 or 17 and earn money and might be hailed as the new white hope because Europe is starved for real basketball stars whereas the black player has to be better than anyone else to be recognised as a truly great prospect.

Sorry if that offends anyone but that's not my view of the world, that is the world, no matter how much you sugarcoat it and it is many African American NBA players past.

[FerdBrown]

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I just create a player and do player lock in my league for the grind

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Yes. And we enjoy it while it lasts. Locking a player may be done via VC next year.

[Mweemwee]

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Christ it was an extreme example. Didn't you read what I wrote? You get to decide your parents. So yes you can also have a black mum and dad in Europe, you can have a black mum and dad in the United States. I personally even envision picking their job which would have an influence on some of their badges. And no I didn't say they should start at a disadvantage because of their colour but because of their socio-economic situation.

Look at Flint Michigan, look at Detroit, look at Leeds Alabama, look at the south side of Chicago. I could give you hundreds of different examples and then you can check which NBA players are from there and then check how they grew up. They mainly played in ****ty gyms and were on AAU teams with guys who tried to take advantage of them. A few like Chris Webber managed to jump to a great High School that charges tuition but a lot did not. And alot of inner cities in America look like the Sudan. It's tough, money is short, schools are run down and bad. Ask those NBA players. So why not portrait that? Why not show what these athletes had to go through to get where they are? Is it somehow racist to be realistic and be honest? They overcome massive odds. Hell Allen Iverson nearly went to prison because of his skin colour before he was able to attend Georgetown.

So yes obviously life should start differently depending on your situation. If you choose that your player is from an inner city, is black and has a single mum, chances are that in the real world you have to attend the ****ties schools, struggle to be good in school because you might not get enough to eat all the time or have chores around the house and your siblings that keep your from studying and you probably live in the ****tiest part of town. That is just the sad reality of life. But you probably also are more driven to succeed, more focused and have to grow up faster so you will get advantages if you make the right choices in the Career Mode. It would be the same if you picked single white parent in an American inner city. I just chose black and inner city because my other example would be white European which to me are the two extremes you can have in the NBA. A black player who was taken advantage of during his AAU days, who was mostly likely badly educated in school and is taken advantage of in college and again badly educated because he is regarded as a commodity instead of a human being by most NCAA schools versus a white European player who probably attends a decent state school, doesn't live in a city that looks like a civil war area, might turn pro at 16 or 17 and earn money and might be hailed as the new white hope because Europe is starved for real basketball stars whereas the black player has to be better than anyone else to be recognised as a truly great prospect.

Sorry if that offends anyone but that's not my view of the world, that is the world, no matter how much you sugarcoat it and it is many African American NBA players past.

the point is there are white people with single parents living in poor areas and black people with 2 loving parents living in nice areas. but you didn't differentiate between poor and rich you said white and black.

[newhere]

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the point is there are white people with single parents living in poor areas and black people with 2 loving parents living in nice areas. but you didn't differentiate between poor and rich you said white and black.

Yes. Because, as I explained again, those are the two extreme choices when it comes down to it. White privileged from a picture book family and a different country and Black, poor, from a broken home and a rundown United States. Sure a white player can have the same issues and a black player can come from a nice neigbourhood but please check real life. The average European player coming to the NBA is white and most of them have turned pro before coming over and have not grown up in poverty to any extend. The average black NBA player comes from a poor background and lives in the States.

I even said in my original statement that you get to decide how you start and get to design your parents and that your upbringing would influence badges and what not. But yeah, obviously in this day and age it's racist to use the reality for 80% of NBA players growing up as an example to showcase how far the the choices for the players would go in the career I envision. It's better if we stick to the stereotypical black dude that 2k presents every year. Always happy, always smiley, always on social media, never a bad word, great college life, great family life, nothing bad but still gangsta because he talks like an OG. I never ever said that those two choices are the only ones that would be in the game or that a black player couldn't start differently. I said it's a choice for anyone who really wants to create themselves and did not grow up with mum and dad and might have grown up in a rougher side of town.

So yes you would get to choose everything. Where do you live? Inner city? Suburbs? Country side? That would again change how you start out. If you choose rural and grow up in a town like French lick you won't have AAU ball at all so you will focus on highschool and you might have a harder time getting recruited, whereas if you live in the inner city you will play AAU but it will also stunt your skills developement because you will have less proper training and you might get exposed very early when you make it far in AAU and have to go up against better players, hindering your chances to get a scholarship offer from a powerhouse program. If you grow up with only one parent you will get the hardworking badge as well as easier access to the alltime great badge but you might also develope an explosive personality more easily and might end up having the wrong people work for you when you get to the NBA, whereas with two parents you will not get certain badges.

If I had a choice I would let you pick your parents work, even out of work and struggling. Like I said my idea for a career mode is that it would take you easily several hours to actually get to the NBA. But yeah... focus on perceived racism while playing a game that has portraid black people in the most stereotypical way for the last 4 years including speech patterns and vocabulary but when I say you can start as a black kid in the inner city with a single parent and play in ****ty gyms as opposed to a white kid from Europe to show the extremes which I would offer players as a starting point for their own career to give them player agency, I'm a racist. Sure.

[Mweemwee]

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Who called you a racist? Not me. I just think you used terrible stereotypes.

[newhere]

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Who called you a racist? Not me. I just think you used terrible stereotypes.

Stereotypes would be if I had said something like "All black players will start like that because that is how all black players grow up." I didn't. Hence if you accuse someone of stereotyping a whole population you either call him stupid, racist or both, because only dumb or racist people deal in stereotypes.

[jagsrock95]

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How do you have to suffer through anything? If they want to make the Park VC dependant and sort of E-League-ish then that is their right and everyone knows that. Personally I could see threemodes. MyPark is basically for show offs. No offense but it is. It's not real basketball, it's all about swag and style over substance. So have it be the pay2win mode so keep the archetypes there. ProAM is the mode that is meant for E-League so a simple solution to make it skill based is to give you a certain amount of skill points to spread around as you will. It should be enough to get you an 85 rated player, which is a player that is competent but not an unstoppable god. You also get 1 HoF Badge 2 Gold Badges 3 Silver Badges and 4 Bronze Badges to choose from. No archetypes, no restrictions besides skilllevel (aka you need a 90 deepball to get limitless range) for the badges. You can basically set up your own player to play with friends or competitively. The only way to improve upon that player is to actually play well. Not necessarily win but amass a good grade and a decent plus minus and other advanced stats during the game.

That would actually show that you can play and it would also ensure that skill decides not VC or money. There would be no scrubs on that team and to win a game you would need tactic as you would have to scout out the opposition and their players, adjust your defensive rotations accordingly, switch between zone and man to man or put a different lineup on the floor.

So basically it would be three modes: A story driven MyCareer that is not extremely grind heavy and therefore actually follows the story of you becoming a superstar with every accessory and tattoo and what not available from the start, just not the branded stuff which would only be accessible once you sign a contract with a certain brand etc.

A competitive ProAM mode in which you play with a player that is rated an 85 and leveled to your liking with a couple of badges from the start and again with every accessory you want available (this time including branded ones) with no story and no nothing and no grinding at all. It's simply pick up and play other teams that have had the same options as you did and the only way to improve is to play good basketball (while playing bad basketball would decrease the stats back to an 85 or lose you a badge level or a badge back down to your original badges). You get to have a free practice or scrimmage on your own team court whenever you want.

A pay2win Park with your player being rated a 45 or something, wearing ****ty gear, having zero haircuts available from the start, possibly only one generic face (face scan is paid for) in 5 or 6 different skin colours, with set archetypes, badges you have to grind for and then pay to unlock them or pay for them straight away and stats you either grind for or pay for up to a 99 (no limit at 85 or something like that). For all I care they could go full out on that mode. Have your player only wear boxershorts, have once face, no haircut, no facial hair, no hair colour, possibly even only one bodytype, have you pay for face scanning, having you pay to actually play more than 5 games a day in the park, have you pay to skip the line etc. They could even have you pay to listen to music (to recoup the licensing fees), pay to have the courts decorated (or at least see the decoration), they could tax your hard earned VC if you haven't spent a minimum of 10.000 VC a day etc. I don't mind. Go for it. Just seriously milk the **** out of the mode. I'm pretty sure you'd still have thousands of players play on it just to show off how much money they can spend on a silly game.

Meanwhile everyone else who wants to play decent basketball can either play the franchise mode, have fun in a proper career mode or enjoy competitive ProAM games with their mates and scrimmage games on their team court with each other.

So cause you look down on a mode you are fine with it not just staying in the state it is becoming even worse lol. Why should anything be pay2win? Is it too much for them to create one cohesive experience without ridiculous vc? It shouldn't be cause live as able to create The one and not rely on VC. Why cant 2k do this. Again this core issue is vc in the game. You want your game modes that you would play vc free but don't care about other people I find that hilarious honestly. Also I don't care if 2k thinks they have a right to Nickle and dime their consumers, doesn't make it ok, especially when the game has been a buggy **** show lol. They want to take our money but give 2 ****s about putting out a product that doesn't kick you out the freakin game.Come on its just inexcusable. This is a problem we can't side step.