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  • Nickstank
    Pro
    • Oct 2015
    • 839

    #16
    Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

    Shout out to Ragnar53, who dropped this post knowledge in another thread. Tons of good stuff in here. Pay attention to the last paragraph about the post spin shot. I had no idea it was in the game until I read his post, but it's been very effective for me over a small sample size. It often gets great separation from the defender for "open" or "wide open" shots.

    I know most post of the post moves in the game. I won't be able to show any video because I'm working a split shift in a couple hours (gotta get ready for work and call my boss to confirm) but I can write out how to do them.

    So. Post Moves. Hold Left Trigger, don't commence bouncing down yet. Keep your dribble alive. If your defender is pushing you with his strength and making you bend forwards you can counter this by either post spinning in the opposite direction of where his arm (this is very important to keep track of) is on your back OR post driving (using your off hand to hook the defender's arm that was just on your back). Your can trigger both the post spin and post drive with the Right Trigger (And get a much tighter spin) and by pointing the left stick to either your back shoulder for a post spin or to your ball hand for a post drive. You can also use the Right Stick to do those moves, just use them in the same direction as the left stick and you'll get a much more dramatic and forceful spin.

    So, Left Stick and Right trigger for smaller, more agile bigs like Blake Griffin and Anthony Davis. Right stick for big bruisers like Demarcus Cousins or Zach Randolph.

    Now once you get those moves down, this will start setting up your post fades. Now, once you do those moves you'll start to notice the defenders are playing off you and anticipating you going to the rim, effectively stonewalling you. Now is the time to start pulling out the post fades. I learned how to do all of them with the Square button so I'm not reliant on the stick (although I use the Right Stick for my up and unders sometimes if I'm lazy or I really want to pick a direction to go in.

    To do a post fade to in either direction simply hold the Left Trigger and hold the Left Stick in that direction, then shoot with Square and you'll do a post fade in that direction. This is very very important. If you can't prove you can hit post fades with any kind of consistency, they are just going to let you take those all day and won't even bother contesting.

    Now once you've proven you can hit post fades and know how to do post drives and spins is when you want to start implementing Post Shimmying into your game and not a second before. In order to do a post shimmy to the left (holding Left Trigger of course) Double Tap Square and hold the Left Stick to the left. What will happen is that your character will fake like he's fading or going right and then turn around and shoot to the left. To do a post shimmy to the right, Double Tap Square and hold the Left Stick to the Right.

    Now once you start making those consistently. Abuse the **** out of up and unders, because now your defender has to jump everytime if he wants to have any chance at forcing you into a miss. Read the 2KU in how to do up and unders, because my fingers are cramping lol.

    Also new this year is the Post Spin Shot. Back your guy down. Take your hand OFF the Left Stick so that it's completely neutral and double tap square. Your guy will take a post spin jumper to the opposite side shoulder. So if the ball was in his left hand he'll spin and fade to the right and vice versa if the ball was in his right hand. It's pretty cool and really useful to do as well after setting it up before hand with spins and drives (as during the animation he dips his shoulders as if he's going to drive in the direction before spinning the opposite way).
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    • Nickstank
      Pro
      • Oct 2015
      • 839

      #17
      Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

      Originally posted by garyraymond23
      The Spin Move/Drop Step are still rigged. As long as you time the spin, know when to use a drop step, it's unstoppable for somebody with silver/gold badges.
      In your experience, what's the best timing for using post spins and drop steps? Do you set them up with any other moves like a shoulder fake or an aggressive backdown?
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      • 1love2k
        Just started!
        • Sep 2017
        • 2

        #18
        Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

        Just learn every post move in the game and learn how to counter the defense for each move. You should be able to master all of these:

        Post Spin/Drive
        Post Hook/Fade
        Post Shimmy Hook/Fade
        Drop Step.
        Up and Under
        Fake Drive/Spin

        Also make sure you don't just press square or right stick when shooting from the post. Timing still matters so release as if you were shooting a jumpshot

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        • LionsFanNJ
          All Star
          • Apr 2006
          • 9464

          #19
          Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

          Im just happy bigs can finally back down guards and go up strong for the finish. In years past small players could bully you and you couldn't dunk on them. Now you can back them down and dunk hard on their head. I love it. Still getting down the up and unders though. They are different this year. I still haven't gotten the hang of it.
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          • Housh123
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 1173

            #20
            Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

            My tip is more for pro am and park


            When you post up don't dribble as soon as you catch it

            Catch it and hold it for like a 2 count just in case you can get an easy assist

            If you look at the true all time post gods they were scoring but they also had the assist numbers at around 4 to 5 a game

            Also it builds good karma with teammates


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            • Vroman
              Pro
              • Aug 2014
              • 959

              #21
              Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

              Originally posted by LionsFanNJ
              Im just happy bigs can finally back down guards and go up strong for the finish. In years past small players could bully you and you couldn't dunk on them. Now you can back them down and dunk hard on their head. I love it. Still getting down the up and unders though. They are different this year. I still haven't gotten the hang of it.
              Big vs Small post up mismatch not a problem since 2k15 , problem usually was other type offense way stronger and easier than post up in general .

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              • Lordash31
                Rookie
                • Sep 2017
                • 82

                #22
                Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

                Originally posted by VictorOzieh
                sounds like youre holding the stick after you initiate the spin. dont hold it after the initial spin
                Yep, got it, thanks... was so frustrated... normally own the post, but kept stepping out of bounds and taking a jump shots when I had my defender beat!

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                • Nickstank
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 839

                  #23
                  Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

                  I've been doing some more testing this morning on some other post moves. So far I've labbed post fades with AD and post spins with AD and Boogie against the Warriors. Here are my general findings:

                  -The shoulder fake before a post fade (pushing the right stick quickly away from the post defender while backing down) isn't as consistently effective at creating separationg as it's been in the past
                  -Pushing the right stick towards the post defender quickly to get that little hop away animation before taking a fade seems to be a better option in creating less contested looks on fades
                  -Length matters a lot in contests this year. KD blocked three of my post fades with AD in my labbing, which never would've happened last year. Draymond, while a better defender, didn't block any. KD's length was a real issue to deal with in the post
                  -The baseline post spin is very effective against a mediocre or undersized defender
                  -The post spin towards the key is much less effective, even against average defenders
                  -It's much less effective against elite defenders like Draymond. AD and Boogie both have bronze Post Spin Tech, and Draymond totally shut down AD on nearly every spin attempt, with not one single attempt resulting in a clear path to the hoop. Boogie had more success, which I'm guessing is due to his size advantage

                  I'm going to work on up & unders and drop steps at some point today. So far I'm really impressed with how realistic the outcomes are. Elite defenders play like it, while elite offensive post players are able to feast on mediocre and poor defenders, exactly as it should be.
                  Last edited by Nickstank; 09-23-2017, 09:08 AM.
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                  • EarvGotti
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2249

                    #24
                    Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

                    One thing i've been doing since last year that is still effective this year is:

                    When you get the ball in post up position, dont dribble yet, face up by letting go of LT then press LT again to go back into post up position then spin baseline right away.

                    This works really well against human defenders because once you face up they stop hugging the baseline then you post up quickly and catch em off guard with a spin....its beats them automatically.

                    I'm gonna lab some more triple threat/faceup moves out of the post today.
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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #25
                      Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

                      One thing I've been doing that has brought my % up on hooks...is following it right after the shoulder hits when im backing down....that bit of separation seems to help a lot....

                      The inside drop step is probably my favorite move so far this year though...

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                      • Nickstank
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 839

                        #26
                        Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

                        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                        One thing I've been doing that has brought my % up on hooks...is following it right after the shoulder hits when im backing down....that bit of separation seems to help a lot....

                        The inside drop step is probably my favorite move so far this year though...

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                        That's what I've tried to do to get maximum separation for hook shots as well, but it hasn't been consistently effective enough for me to consider it a first option at this point.

                        Do you have any video of you pulling off drop steps? I'm labbing them now their success seems very much tied to the size and strength of the offensive and defensive players involved. Anthony Davis (Bronze Drop Stepper) hardly ever executes a successful drop step for me, while my early testing shows Boogie (Silver Drop Stepper) having a lot of success against both Draymond and Zaza.
                        Last edited by Nickstank; 09-23-2017, 09:43 AM.
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                        • Nickstank
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 839

                          #27
                          Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

                          Originally posted by EarvGotti
                          One thing i've been doing since last year that is still effective this year is:

                          When you get the ball in post up position, dont dribble yet, face up by letting go of LT then press LT again to go back into post up position then spin baseline right away.

                          This works really well against human defenders because once you face up they stop hugging the baseline then you post up quickly and catch em off guard with a spin....its beats them automatically.

                          I'm gonna lab some more triple threat/faceup moves out of the post today.
                          I remember that move from your videos last year, Earv. Good stuff! I've been testing it against the CPU and it seems computer defenders are much wiser to this. It hasn't been very effective for me so far, unfortunately.

                          I'd love to see a triple threat video from you! You were a master of those triple threat isos in 2K17 and I learned a lot from your videos.
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                          • Nickstank
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 839

                            #28
                            Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

                            Up and Unders are...not great against the CPU. I made 5 of 30 up and under shots:

                            -3 of the makes were over Curry and Iguodala after switches
                            -A 4th make happened when Iguodala went for a steal after my original shot fake and missed, leaving me alone to lay the ball in
                            -The primary defender jumped exactly ONCE in 30 shots
                            -I got blocked more as many times as I made shots

                            It's possible that the success of up & unders and getting CPU defenders to bite could be dependent on proving you can make other post shots first. I'll test that out in game, but in this test the CPU showed it's essentially foolproof
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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #29
                              Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

                              Originally posted by Nickstank
                              That's what I've tried to do to get maximum separation for hook shots as well, but it hasn't been consistently effective enough for me to consider it a first option at this point.

                              Do you have any video of you pulling off drop steps? I'm labbing them now their success seems very much tied to the size and strength of the offensive and defensive players involved. Anthony Davis (Bronze Drop Stepper) hardly ever executes a successful drop step for me, while my early testing shows Boogie (Silver Drop Stepper) having a lot of success against both Draymond and Zaza.
                              vid.me/ve3Fh

                              vid.me/lJmcD

                              These were during Play Now Online matches...

                              The drop step on Bosh is a bit slow and doesnt cause separation...so it's easily blocked...I really only use it if the post defender is jump happy....

                              The second is super effective though..

                              I think Tim Duncan has the HOF badge...

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                              • Nickstank
                                Pro
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 839

                                #30
                                Re: Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

                                After some more labbing, I've found the single most effective post shot is the dream shake fade. A vast majority of the time, it gives you an "open" or "wide open" look, and for whatever reason I've found them easier to time. They're harder to pull off just because it involves L2, R2 and moving both sticks at the same time in the same direction. But if you're able to get it down, I highly suggest using this as a go-to post shot.

                                Another good one that's effective and aesthetically pleasing is the post spin shot. It's done by double tapping square while posting up. You have to make sure the left stick is neutral, as in you aren't moving it in any direction. This one is more animation dependent. Some players get huge separation on these, while others get very little.
                                Last edited by Nickstank; 09-23-2017, 11:43 AM.
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