Becoming a Post God - Post Your Tips Here

[JoFri]

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I like what I’ve read so far. Tks to op who posted this.
Drop-step dunk was nasty, and I definitely want to use that as this is Shaq’s signature move. Tks 24 for showcasing that move!

I saw a lack of mentioning on face-up moves. Was that toned down in 18? Earv mentioned about disengage post, engage post again and quick spin. How about disengage post to face-up and perform the quick spin? This was deadly in 17.

2K13 post game was best imo, at least I can choose which side I want to shimmy fadeaway. Disengage, drive, fadeaway in the key (one of MJ/Kobe’s moves that can be mimic in 2K) or disengage, drive to the key, double tap circle to spin for jumper - lots of moves for utilisation. Can anyone try it out in 18 and see how successful isit vs the Cpu?




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[three6latvia]

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I realized 1) if you want to do a hook you need to be really in the low post. If you’re slightly farther out, they will do a fade instead and most big men are better at hooks.

I used to be able to do hooks in 2k17 really easily by just moving the right stick to the left or right but they changed it. I never know if I’ll do a hook or a forced layup.


Is it just me or this year passing into the post is more difficult ? This year sometimes when I pass to the post i turn it over to the post defender. They changed the post defense to make it harder to get in the post.

What’s the safest way to pass to the post? Lob pass?

I’ve also noticed so post shots like hook shots DON’T have shot meters - does that mean it’s a gimme? Like 100%?


I used to love playing with melo in the post - his fadeaway was so fun. Now I have kanter lol.


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[JoFri]

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I realized 1) if you want to do a hook you need to be really in the low post. If you’re slightly farther out, they will do a fade instead and most big men are better at hooks.

Strange. From 24’s video, I saw Duncan hook shot nearing at the free throw line.

I used to be able to do hooks in 2k17 really easily by just moving the right stick to the left or right but they changed it.

Me too. With the help of the hook meter, I managed to convert 90% of the hook shots!

Is it just me or this year passing into the post is more difficult ? This year sometimes when I pass to the post i turn it over to the post defender. They changed the post defense to make it harder to get in the post.

What’s the safest way to pass to the post? Lob pass?

Have u tried lob pass? Look for the white circle of yor post player before u tap Y. Perhaps do some fake passes before it.




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[Ragnar53]

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To pass into the low post you need to have the right passing angle.

If your defender is playing off you by 2 or more feet denying you that pass you just need to drive it in that possession or swing the ball to a more dangerous perimeter player (that can either finish or shoot 3s) and call for a quick post up on that side of the floor hoping for a better passing angle.

If you are really good at the post, most dudes will just drop down and deny no matter who you have because they know it's an automatic 2 points if your big man gets the ball. I'm that case, you're going to start calling pick and rolls to get your big man right in front of the basket. Pick and roll, then drive and kick, swing the ball back to the other side of the court and now you have the defense scrambling, hopefully either giving you a clear lane to the rim, open 3 pointer, or a great passing angle to the big man.

Now as far as fave up moves. If you have a big man with either the strength (push them out the way) or speed/ball control (blow past them with 1st step) to succeed in the face up game then it's really really deadly against the cpu. Depending on who's guarding the big man it's either a foul or a bucket a majority of the time.

It's also one of the only ways to simulate running hook shots by using the cradle layup feature while the defender is rising your hip. Except in this instance instead of using the hook shot rating it uses your driving layup rating. So athletic finishers like Blake Griffin are really deadly.

Which reminds me, I need to find a use for the Post Layup feature. They are surprisingly as ineffective as last year, despite looking pretty.

[The 24th Letter]

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Iv seen your video 24th, and like i said, what you were doing was taking advantage of online users being out of position, and faking a bunch of times, and by the way you traveled on half of those moves, so already the post has nothing to stand on.

Spoiler

Watch this video and you'll see how Shaquille and Hakeem both score most they're points while in the post, with they're "money moves".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtmJHg0qDnk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqU5RY1fmg8

Its not like they faked a bunch of times to get the defender jumping, or did a magical drop step to activate some animation that froze they're defender so they could get an open shot off. They got the ball in they're dominant position in the post, and got they're shots off, hook shots, fadeaways, and most were contested, but thats how those shots work. Thats why you had to double team elite post scorers like this in real basketball. In nba 2k18 im pretty sure the cpu doesnt even double the post offline.

Try and do back to the basket moves offline now, on anything all star and higher, hook shots will not drop unless you somehow get if off open, or get the good hook shot animation, which is pathetic. Get footage of you hitting Kareem Abdul-jabbars famous sky hook going into the lane while in the post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiXqdbznb5E

https://streamable.com/x3kwc

What am i thinking trying to do hook shots though right? i should just do up and unders and travel everywhere or drop step a defender out of bounds or like hes a statue. 24th you guys have clearly learned the way that 2k wants the user to play in the post in this game, its just its no where near the realistic way of playing in the post.

Like I said, you had your mind made up from the jump...which is fine...I could have saved myself some time though...hopefully other's thay want to learn the post game can benefit from this thread.

Anyway, did some labbing with Keem on SS yesterday trying to get his hook timing down...they didn't double him until the 4th...anyone else seeing doubles earlier?

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x62s3ra

[Ragnar53]

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I play on Hall of Fame. As soon as my big man has the fire symbol next to his name they send an immediate second defender. So you either have to pass out or get good position then go into your move immediately.

Also I should probably try out the up and under fade more if my initial fake didn't have the defender bite/jump. That seems like it would be really effective also.

[The 24th Letter]

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Random annectdote. Doing a shoulder fake before going into a post hook gets you a relatively open look a majority of the time. Sometimes even wide open because the defender is now disengaged from your body.

Aggressively backing down then going immediately into a hook works if you have a sizeable strength advantage (At least +10 more strength). It creates enough space to get a clean fade away or hook shot off.

This does make it difficult to play like Lamarcus Aldridge in this game and his struggle buckets. The man shoots contested fadeaways over his right shoulder on the left block All The Time whenever he gets bullied out of good post position. And doing those sorts of fadeaways is a no go unless you literally spend a couple hours in scrimmage getting the timing for it perfect (there are some shots I hit with Anthony Davis I have no business hitting) when you're getting smothered by defense.

Which brings me to my next point. You're just going to have to learn how to green shots out of the post if you're going for realism. Just like if you want to use Demar like he plays in real life you're gonna have to learn how to green contested mid ranges.

Which goes into the whole mantra of good defense, better offense. You can't guard that, it was perfect.

I'm all about the hop fade or step back when I have LMA in the post....

Agree with your point about disengaging though...makes shots like KAJs hook a lot easier to pull off...I go into the hook as soon as I see the defenders body bounce back...only thing is its hard to tell when this happens on 2k cam....

https://streamable.com/t6tra

What’s the safest way to pass to the post? Lob pass?
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I prefer the bounce pass personally. Quick, harder to track and steal...



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[harryl]

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I'm all about the hop fade or step back when I have LMA in the post....

Has it ever been figured out what Rating(s) apply to hop fades and hop stepbacks? Is it Post Fade and/or Moving Mid? I know that, at least in 2K17, Difficult Shots would activate with post hop shots, so I assume it's Moving Mid...BUT one can't really take those shots with guys with really high Moving Mid but really low Post Fade, so...I just don't know.

[jeebs9]

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Like I said, you had your mind made up from the jump...which is fine...I could have saved myself some time though...hopefully other's thay want to learn the post game can benefit from this thread.

Anyway, did some labbing with Keem on SS yesterday trying to get his hook timing down...they didn't double him until the 4th...anyone else seeing doubles earlier?

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x62s3ra

Keem and Shaq are my next players to play with. I have a Jokic and M Gasol video in the works.

But in regards to doubling the big. That is more first and biggest concern. Is waiting for the double team to come. I'm always aware of my outlets. Especially if you have cutters on offense. You can get a lot of off baller who doing cut. And are usually looking for the steal.

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[sudanmalkovich]

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post moves in this game are hella slow to begin with.
nobody in NBA moves this slow in the post except boban marjanovic.

[The 24th Letter]

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Nah....

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[jeebs9]

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I've been meaning to ask if anyone has tried any high low passes with bigs feeding the post (while being fronted). I just had my first chance trying it out. It looked sweet. But definitely wasn't clean.

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I'm having trouble figuring out how they could program it in. Look at this very clean High-Low pass in real life Davics and Webber.

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It's pure sexyness.

[jmarcguy]

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Man I loved that Kings team! I'm an 80's & 90's guy but that team is one of my favorites.


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[Davon_A_Brown]

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Kay. What I did at the 52 second mark, is I faced up (on the right block I hit LT, then flicked the Left Stick to the right) then double tapped Square to get the post spin jumper. Depending on where you are on the court, and where your lead foot is, you'll either shoot a post spin jumper to the left or the right.

What I'm doing at the 1 minute 10 second mark, is switching whether I want my pivot foot forward, or my lead foot forward. And this is done just by pressing either forward on the left stick (bringing your lead foot in front, pivot in back) or by pressing down on the left stick (bringing your lead foot back, making your pivot foot forward).

Now what I'm doing at 1 minute and 56 seconds is going into the back turned position of the triple threat then going into the different fadeaways out of it. And of course you have your shimmy to the left and right.

At the 3 minute mark is me going to the the lead foot forward triple threat position. 4 minute mark is when I start experimenting with the shimmys you can do out of the position. 4 minute 40 second is when I experiment with the post hop shot you can do out of it. 5 minute 20 second mark is the post spin jumpers.

At the 6 minute mark is me going into the pivot foot forward triple threat/post position and testing the post fadeaways. 6 minute 45 seconds is me experimenting with the post spin jumpers out of it. 7 minutes 10 seconds if me doing the post shimmys out of it.

Now at 8 minutes is me switching to Shaq and getting ready to show you one of the dropsteps available to you. As a sidenote, you also do different dropsteps depending on distance from the rim and whether you do the dropstop towards the baseline or the middle. There's around 8 different dropsteps in the game. I think I missed 1 of the other ones in the video. It was a spinning cuff dropstep with 1 hand. I think Hakeem may be the only one who has it, but I have to go check again. After I get some sleep.

At 8 minutes and 30 seconds that spin/tornado dropstep is performed simply by being in the high post area and holding the left stick towards the baseline (diagonally left in this instance) and tapping square. At 8 minutes and 40 seconds I do it from the other high post area, left stick towards the baseline (diagonally right in this instance).

From 9 to 9 minute 50 second mark was me demonstrating that it's impossible to do a hook shot from the face up position.

At 10 minutes and 20 seconds is me doing all of the hook shots from the back turned position. At the 11 minute mark was me doing a shimmy hook to the left (hold right trigger, move the right stick diagonally left) from the back turned position. It looks halfways between a floater and a hook shot. This is more useful against a user as this is likely to catch them completely off guard and it'll most likely register as open. Against the CPU the little shimmy beforehand might catch them off guard enough to get it to drop a little more frequently. At 11 minutes and 22 seconds is me performing a shimmy hook to the right. That one is actually really really really good to use, because you get a lot of seperation on it (important for the computer). Couple that with most people expecting you get as close to the basket as possible with a big man (especially one that can't shoot fadeaways), it's really useful against other players as well.

At 11 minutes 45 seconds was me doing the dropsteps out of the backturned position (both towards the baseline and towards the middle).

At 12 minute 40 seconds is me doing the hookshots from the lead foot forward post position. The regular hook shot looks almost like a push floater. This is really useful for if your big man catches the ball in an awkward spot, yet his defender is in the restricted circle. You'll notice that these look really similiar to the hook shots shown early, except they are regular hook shots and don't register as shimmys (since I'm not doing the shimmy motion to do them, thus I get no shot meter). See at 13 minutes and 10 seconds how much seperation that hook shot gets?

At 13 minutes and 57 seconds I show you the dropsteps you can do out of this position. That one is actually really good. At 14 minutes and 35 seconds I show you the shimmy hook shots out of this position. All of these are good.

At 15 minutes and 19 seconds I show the post moves out of the pivot foot forward post position, starting with the regular hooks. At 15 minutes and 50 seconds I start showing off the shimmy hooks.

On that right block in that post position the combo that is deadly is the dropstep towards the middle of the paint I show at 16 minutes and 46 seconds. And the counter move is the post shimmy hook to the right, because of the left shoulder dipping almost as low as the dropstep.

Then there is the combo I did at 17 minutes and 30 seconds. At 17 minutes and 50 seconds I finally managed to get that fundamental drop step shown off. Then from 18 minutes and 20 seconds onwards is me showing off combos you can do.

That's it for the post moves. I'm done. I'm going to sleep.

Thank you so much for this. I didn't know the post game was THAT deep. I'll definitely have to start labbing with my personnel. Kinda makes me sad that I do MyLeague with the Pistons. Lol

[olajuwon34]

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Im still bugged by the fact that i have to determine if the game is going to give me a good hook shot animation for it to be a threat, and trust me they're not a threat, online if i ever see people attempting these shots, i stay on my feet, sometimes not even contesting, and they miss almost every time.

good - https://streamable.com/0o9fn
bad - https://streamable.com/1z1jy

i know i could always drop step everyone, or fake a user defender into the air a dozen times, or blow by a defender in triple threat, but hook shots got to be fixed, its like saying that a shot creator doesn't have a step back.