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  • ksuttonjr76
    All Star
    • Nov 2004
    • 8662

    #121
    Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

    Originally posted by GisherJohn24
    Honestly, it's going to take severe boycott on VC where over 90% IMO of the NBA 2k users jsut ignore the VC to make a point. Did NBA 2k11 and 2k12 have similar modes but it was just grind the game? Was the format similar to now? Or is athe grind just too time consuming for the new 2k games like 18? Can someone tell me is the VC absolutely required to win? I'm an offline guy so def a noob
    I'll let someone else chime in on the previous games. I dabbled in the past with MyCareer, but I never dived in with both feet. Off the top of head, I really don't remember it being a "chore" to boost your player. Since, 2K14 a majority of my VC came from PNO. What I was earning in PNO versus spending must have been minimum, because I was always able to build a player that could be competitive.

    I'm going to keep it 100%. NBA 2K18 is over the top with the VC transactions. I've been playing this game hard since early release, and my character is only at 63. To be fair, the VC glitch in PNO is killing me, because I'm not earning anything. Being a family man with a 10-month old and 40 Hour week job, it would be stretch for me to say that I can get to 80 before the end of October.

    Being "competitive" really depends on your personal preference. From what I'm seeing, people just want to showboat, score 30 points (Pro-Am) a game, and dunk on every possession. If that's what you want to do, then you may want to pony up the money for VC. PERSONALLY, I just want to be effective and a presence on the court while making the right plays. With that mindset, I know my role and don't try to play above it. With a 63 rim-protecting/post-play center, I keep my opponent honest, but they're not abusing me in the post either. Having 6 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks, who knows how many boxouts/changed shots, and no turnovers at the end of a game doesn't bother me. I know my role.

    Honestly, having low BBIQ teammates bother me more than playing people with "bought" characters. It's been my experience (thus far) that people really don't know how to use their bought characters to the fullest.

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    • BA2929
      The Designated Hitter
      • Jul 2008
      • 3342

      #122
      Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

      Originally posted by GisherJohn24
      Honestly, it's going to take severe boycott on VC where over 90% IMO of the NBA 2k users jsut ignore the VC to make a point. Did NBA 2k11 and 2k12 have similar modes but it was just grind the game? Was the format similar to now? Or is athe grind just too time consuming for the new 2k games like 18? Can someone tell me is the VC absolutely required to win? I'm an offline guy so def a noob
      The point has already been made in regards to VC. 2k is getting severe backlash this year, both from consumers in ratings and in the mainstream gaming media. Kotaku has already written two articles bashing MyCareer and VC. Polygon rated 2k exactly the same as Live due to VC being such a big hindrance.

      VC has been apart of 2k for quite awhile now and there was already a grind, but not to this extent. Everything now costs an absolute ton of VC and it's harder to get VC without paying real money for it to speed up the process. Every single thing you need in MyCareer costs VC. Literally everything.

      Also, VC is "technically" required to win, because you need VC to upgrade your characters attributes, animations and gear. If you don't purchase VC with money, it'll take you quite awhile to level up your character so you'll have to spend dozens upon dozens upon dozens of hours on your guy just to get him competitive with the people that did spend money.

      I don't play the online portion of this game, no Park or whatever, but even "offline" in the NBA side of it it's not generally fun to be a 62 overall bench player who struggles to even hit a mid-range jumpshot.

      Edit: I'd also like to point out that I don't care if someone buys VC. I bought $40 worth to up my guy and buy some new animations (I only play offline so you Park guys won't see me). It's their (and my) money and they can do what they want with it. But when the option to NOT buy VC with real money severely hinders the fun and basically changes the way the game plays for many people who don't want to spend extra money then that is NOT ok and is poor game design.
      Last edited by BA2929; 09-26-2017, 05:03 PM.
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      • GisherJohn24
        MVP
        • Aug 2008
        • 4583

        #123
        Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

        Originally posted by BA2929
        The point has already been made in regards to VC. 2k is getting severe backlash this year, both from consumers in ratings and in the mainstream gaming media. Kotaku has already written two articles bashing MyCareer and VC. Polygon rated 2k exactly the same as Live due to VC being such a big hindrance.

        VC has been apart of 2k for quite awhile now and there was already a grind, but not to this extent. Everything now costs an absolute ton of VC and it's harder to get VC without paying real money for it to speed up the process. Every single thing you need in MyCareer costs VC. Literally everything.

        Also, VC is "technically" required to win, because you need VC to upgrade your characters attributes, animations and gear. If you don't purchase VC with money, it'll take you quite awhile to level up your character so you'll have to spend dozens upon dozens upon dozens of hours on your guy just to get him competitive with the people that did spend money.

        I don't play the online portion of this game, no Park or whatever, but even "offline" in the NBA side of it it's not generally fun to be a 62 overall bench player who struggles to even hit a mid-range jumpshot.

        Edit: I'd also like to point out that I don't care if someone buys VC. I bought $40 worth to up my guy and buy some new animations (I only play offline so you Park guys won't see me). It's their (and my) money and they can do what they want with it. But when the option to NOT buy VC with real money severely hinders the fun and basically changes the way the game plays for many people who don't want to spend extra money then that is NOT ok and is poor game design.
        Wow. Great response . Man 2k I hope they read headlines. Is 60.00 a pop really not enough to make them rich? EA would have been genius releasing Live at 19.99 . Anyone remember a little game called NFL2k5?

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        • Thunderhorse
          Rookie
          • Jun 2011
          • 485

          #124
          Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

          Originally posted by nddot
          Are you serious right now ? [emoji23][emoji23]

          So should i not express my displeasure because being a MyLeague online player first, I see that they basically gave us the same **** than last year and just be happy with it ?
          Yaaay relocations !!
          NOBODY asked for this, but they went out of their way to add it.

          Should i keep my mouth shut and talk about that big mess of a story that they added in MyGm ? The storyline is corny and doesnt even make sense. Your choice have NO impact on their storyline whatsoever.

          Should i keep my mouth shut and not say anything about that clusterfukk storyline in MyCareer and just roll with it ? Your career doesnt even belong to your cause all your choices are tied to that weak *** storyline.

          Should I keep my mouth shut cause the game is full of bugs and flaws even though i paid full price for it ?
          Sure they made some major improvements gameplay wise and ive said it a hundred of times but it is FAR from being the product that i expected due to the major flaws.


          How is it even being irrational ? You 2k fanboys are the worst.

          Cant even have a constructive conversation with y'all




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          You can blow all the wind you want homie, no one is going to stop you. I'll continue to point out the pettiness and spoiled nature of those gripes too, respectfully.

          For Example, there are other basketball games you can play. This doesn't mean you can't hold 2K accountable for their product (Theirs is the best), but if the experience is so negative there are other options out there. Other genres do not have that LUXURY.

          Anyway, all I have ever said is while 2K has it's flaws, a 3 out of 10 was a completely ludicrous score. If you don't like 2K you don't have to like it but that score was clearly ridiculous.

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          • Vinsanity115
            Rookie
            • Aug 2017
            • 221

            #125
            Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

            Unless it was paid for deceptively by EA or something, why would it matter seeing as you don't work for 2K in any way?

            Genuinely just wondering.

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            • Thunderhorse
              Rookie
              • Jun 2011
              • 485

              #126
              Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

              Originally posted by Vinsanity115
              Unless it was paid for deceptively by EA or something, why would it matter seeing as you don't work for 2K in any way?

              Genuinely just wondering.

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              Because it's the topic of discussion within this thread?

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              • Vinsanity115
                Rookie
                • Aug 2017
                • 221

                #127
                Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

                Originally posted by Thunderhorse
                Because it's the topic of discussion within this thread?
                I'm saying why does it bother you. Not being fececious.

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                • Thunderhorse
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 485

                  #128
                  Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

                  Originally posted by Vinsanity115
                  I'm saying why does it bother you. Not being fececious.

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                  It doesn't.

                  It's an observation. Simple as that.

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                  • tril
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 2912

                    #129
                    Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

                    Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                    I'll let someone else chime in on the previous games. I dabbled in the past with MyCareer, but I never dived in with both feet. Off the top of head, I really don't remember it being a "chore" to boost your player. Since, 2K14 a majority of my VC came from PNO. What I was earning in PNO versus spending must have been minimum, because I was always able to build a player that could be competitive.

                    I'm going to keep it 100%. NBA 2K18 is over the top with the VC transactions. I've been playing this game hard since early release, and my character is only at 63. To be fair, the VC glitch in PNO is killing me, because I'm not earning anything. Being a family man with a 10-month old and 40 Hour week job, it would be stretch for me to say that I can get to 80 before the end of October.

                    Being "competitive" really depends on your personal preference. From what I'm seeing, people just want to showboat, score 30 points (Pro-Am) a game, and dunk on every possession. If that's what you want to do, then you may want to pony up the money for VC. PERSONALLY, I just want to be effective and a presence on the court while making the right plays. With that mindset, I know my role and don't try to play above it. With a 63 rim-protecting/post-play center, I keep my opponent honest, but they're not abusing me in the post either. Having 6 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks, who knows how many boxouts/changed shots, and no turnovers at the end of a game doesn't bother me. I know my role.

                    Honestly, having low BBIQ teammates bother me more than playing people with "bought" characters. It's been my experience (thus far) that people really don't know how to use their bought characters to the fullest.
                    the first version of my player, folks complained about the mode taking too long to increase attributes and move up into the nba ranks.
                    In my opinion, when it comes to online competitive gaming, vc should be earned and not payed for. you have to keep the competitive balance.
                    those who pay and those who earn should be separated.

                    there is no clear cut solution. if paying for VCs was such a problem 2k would stop putting an emphasis on VC.
                    VC is here to stay. other games do it and all those micro-transactions follow a similar set up. so to bash 2k for this while giving other developers a pass is just wrong.

                    all mobile games, all current war games, shooters, sports games etc have some form of micro transactions.

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                    • GoDucks1224
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 2622

                      #130
                      Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

                      Originally posted by Vinsanity115
                      Good, power to the consumer. Sick of them getting the pass for this.

                      Now if only people can start catching on to the 'rubberband' script gameplay we might just get back to prime time nba2k...

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                      lol yeah 2K is the only company that does micro transactions.

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                      • Junior Moe
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 3869

                        #131
                        Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

                        Originally posted by Thunderhorse
                        It doesn't.

                        It's an observation. Simple as that.
                        What's crazy is that dude is a Live fan. Yet he spends all this time in the 2K forum complaining, all under the guise of wanting to see the game improve. Strait trolling! Why does he care so much? Does he work for EA? I'm starting to wonder..

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                        • Vinsanity115
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2017
                          • 221

                          #132
                          Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

                          Originally posted by Junior Moe
                          What's crazy is that dude is a Live fan. Yet he spends all this time in the 2K forum complaining, all under the guise of wanting to see the game improve. Strait trolling! Why does he care so much? Does he work for EA? I'm starting to wonder..
                          Lol k bud. I'm not a Live 'fan', I'm an NBA basketball fan first. I liked Live from 01-06, & 10. I liked 2K from 08-14. I liked neither from 15-17. I like Live 18.

                          Sorry I don't tie myself to any company. I'm able to decide independently. Live made a decent little comeback, good, I'm not loyal to a company that doesn't pay me.

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                          • Vinsanity115
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2017
                            • 221

                            #133
                            Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

                            Originally posted by GoDucks1224
                            lol yeah 2K is the only company that does micro transactions.
                            No, actually you're wrong, they aren't. They certainly do it as one of the worst though.

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                            • Junior Moe
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 3869

                              #134
                              Re: 2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

                              Originally posted by Vinsanity115
                              Lol k bud. I'm not a Live 'fan', I'm an NBA basketball fan first. I liked Live from 01-06, & 10. I liked 2K from 08-14. I liked neither from 15-17. I like Live 18.

                              Sorry I don't tie myself to any company. I'm able to decide independently. Live made a decent little comeback, good, I'm not loyal to a company that doesn't pay me.

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                              • nddot
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 611

                                #135
                                2k pressuring reviewers to remove low scores?

                                Originally posted by Thunderhorse
                                You can blow all the wind you want homie, no one is going to stop you. I'll continue to point out the pettiness and spoiled nature of those gripes too, respectfully.



                                For Example, there are other basketball games you can play. This doesn't mean you can't hold 2K accountable for their product (Theirs is the best), but if the experience is so negative there are other options out there. Other genres do not have that LUXURY.



                                Anyway, all I have ever said is while 2K has it's flaws, a 3 out of 10 was a completely ludicrous score. If you don't like 2K you don't have to like it but that score was clearly ridiculous.


                                Lol this dude right here man....

                                Y'all stay moving the goalpost, but yeah ok.


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                                "I just wanna be heaaaaaaaaard"

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