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  • rjohns23
    Pro
    • Sep 2010
    • 656

    #16
    Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

    Yea we need a Dev to come in and explain how sliders really work. And what setting to put at if we want players to play to there true attributes and tendencies with no artificial boast.

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    • Crossover1
      MVP
      • Feb 2009
      • 1925

      #17
      Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

      Originally posted by rjohns23
      Yea we need a Dev to come in and explain how sliders really work. And what setting to put at if we want players to play to there true attributes and tendencies with no artificial boast.

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      That's not happening. They almost never say anything about sliders.

      It really annoys me that there is not one difficulty that doesn't have boosts or nerfs for both the CPU and user.
      Last edited by Crossover1; 10-04-2017, 12:51 AM.
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      • Luke Skywalker
        Pro
        • Dec 2014
        • 917

        #18
        Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

        Originally posted by Crossover1
        Found it.

        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...fficients.html

        So it is an average of about 1.5 and not 1.666 like I thought. Makes even less sense but I remember testing this out for myself at the time and this was legit.

        I've always wondered why this thread didn't take off like it should have. It would've helped so many roster/slider guys. I've always used it to even out CPU ratings with the user's to cut out the BS, but when they took out the ability to see the adjustments they made for CPU boosts I pretty much stopped playing the CPU since.
        What do you recommend I set the sliders to since everyone is -5 in attribute in MyTeam? I want that to reflect Play Now games offline.

        EDIT: I want to in essence stretch out the ratings since 2K likes to overrate a lot of players. I want an 80 overall to play like an 80 overall. On the default sliders, I feel everyone players better than they're supposed to. I'd appreciate the help!

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        • Crossover1
          MVP
          • Feb 2009
          • 1925

          #19
          Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

          Originally posted by Luke Skywalker
          What do you recommend I set the sliders to since everyone is -5 in attribute in MyTeam? I want that to reflect Play Now games offline.

          EDIT: I want to in essence stretch out the ratings since 2K likes to overrate a lot of players. I want an 80 overall to play like an 80 overall. On the default sliders, I feel everyone players better than they're supposed to. I'd appreciate the help!
          The easiest way to make players play worse is by lowering all shooting sliders since you'll have to work harder to score. That is subjective and it is made worse every year since shooting is never the same as the year before. Add in the fact that there seems to be a slider glitch this year that tanks the CPU scoring abilities and it's as tough as ever.

          If you're goal is to get everyone's attributes to drop by 5, then placing all the attribute sliders to 47 will do the trick. This is assuming that they haven't changed the formula for how the sliders work, which I doubt they did.
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          • Luke Skywalker
            Pro
            • Dec 2014
            • 917

            #20
            Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

            Probably a question that has been asked a 100x.

            Do sliders have an effect on simulating games during a season?

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            • Crossover1
              MVP
              • Feb 2009
              • 1925

              #21
              Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

              Originally posted by Luke Skywalker
              Probably a question that has been asked a 100x.

              Do sliders have an effect on simulating games during a season?
              No, only gameplay.
              'Only The Strong Survive'

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              • Koosa1027
                MVP
                • Sep 2016
                • 1627

                #22
                Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

                Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
                Start off at HOF, then adjust sliders, and you'll get full ACE
                This...and ACE is not OFF on lower difficulties, the cpu just makes fewer adjustments to what you're doing on the court. Superstar cpu makes more adjustments and HOF cpu will throw every adjustment that they're capable of doing at you. This is straight from Da_Czar, nba 2k Offensive A.I. developer.

                ~Koosa10:27~
                SIM is a MINDSET...Don't cheat the game and you'll get better results ~Koosa10:27~

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                • LorenzoDC
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1857

                  #23
                  Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

                  Originally posted by rjohns23
                  Yea we need a Dev to come in and explain how sliders really work. And what setting to put at if we want players to play to there true attributes and tendencies with no artificial boast.

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                  I feel like this is a comment that some ghost in the database resurrected from 2K12 or earlier.

                  They virtually never explain sliders.

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                  • qclonewolf
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 22

                    #24
                    Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

                    That's crazy

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                    • Luke Skywalker
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 917

                      #25
                      Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

                      @Crossover1

                      Thanks so much for the info. I assume that MyTeam Domination is on All Star difficulty? I took those sliders and modified the User's end (me), because in MyTeam your squad is -5 (Melo is a 79 opposed to an 84 on the original). The teams you face have their original ratings so it was pretty consistent, fun, and challenging. Everything set to 47 is the way to go for the user.

                      My favorite team the Nets are actually much worse and play like their real life counterpart now, as before on the default All Star I could go toe to toe with the computer and win with ease.

                      I did not set anything to 47 that was unrelated to attributes and success. For example: Stamina attribute was set to 47, while Fatigue Rate remained at 50.

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                      • Crossover1
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1925

                        #26
                        Re: Minimal Slider Changes have a Negative Impact

                        I don't play MyTeam so I don't know what difficulty that mode uses.

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