NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

[BluFu]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

And two of the worst offensive players of all-time. Don't pretend they were franchise players. A two-way player is logically going to have a higher rating than a specialist.

Bit of a stretch to call him a two way player when his best attribute on offense is his ability to catch the ball and convert on wide open dunks.

He's a great player but he only plays 25 minutes a night for a reason. 87 OVR is near superstar level which is too high for a player like Capela.

The ratings don’t even make sense. Ibaka has been great all of December but this roster update really reflects what he was in November.

They dropped Lowry’s 3pt rating again..yet steph curry who is shooting worse is prolly still a 99 from behind the arc.

Yeah Ibaka's been fantastic and is playing way better than he did coming into this season. How he's only an 79 is beyond me.

Oh wait, he plays for the Raptors.. that explains it

[8KB24]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Capela this year is what DaJ was every season he played with CP3.

He is not an 87. He is awesome athletically and defensively but dude has one move offensively - slam it.

[Real2KInsider]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Bit of a stretch to call him a two way player when his best attribute on offense is his ability to catch the ball and convert on wide open dunks.

Ah yes, what Capela does requires zero ability whatsoever. He doesn't create those wide open opportunities with his length, athleticism, quickness, or positioning. It's a mere ACCIDENT he leads the league in shooting percentage. ANYBODY can average 3 dunks per 24 minutes. Why, IIRC Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman were just as unstoppable in the Pick and Roll! Those guys were AUTOMATIC when they caught the ball near the rim, which is why they averaged double-figures ONCE between them in THIRTY combined seasons (SIXTEEN of which they logged 30+ MPG).

Man, great points, all-around. Unbeatable logic. Capela isn't a two-way player because dudes who average 14 PPG in half a game aren't very effective at offense. You got this one. LOL.

He's a great player but he only plays 25 minutes a night for a reason.

Dennis Rodman averaged 26 MPG with Detroit and played a whopping 29 MPG when he won Defensive Player of the Year. But please, preach to us about MPG as a sure-fire measurement for on-court ability.

87 OVR is near superstar level which is too high for a player like Capela.

87 is All-Star level which is where Capela is clearly at. MVP candidates (I.E. Superstars) are all in the 90s.

2K Center Ratings
88 Andre Drummond
87 Hassan Whiteside
87 Clint Capela
86 Al Horford
86 Rudy Gobert
85 DeAndre Jordan
85 Marc Gasol

Woah just check out all those NBA superstars! I guess you're right, 2K must be crazy to put Capela in league with these world beaters.

:STRETCH:

[Yuss]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Has anyone ever suggested any player from their favorite team be downgraded?

[jeebs9]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Has anyone ever suggested any player from their favorite team be downgraded?

Haha I have.

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[BluFu]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Ah yes, what Capela does requires zero ability whatsoever. He doesn't create those wide open opportunities with his length, athleticism, quickness, or positioning. It's a mere ACCIDENT he leads the league in shooting percentage. ANYBODY can average 3 dunks per 24 minutes. Why, IIRC Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman were just as unstoppable in the Pick and Roll! Those guys were AUTOMATIC when they caught the ball near the rim, which is why they averaged double-figures ONCE between them in THIRTY combined seasons (SIXTEEN of which they logged 30+ MPG).

Dennis Rodman averaged 26 MPG with Detroit and played a whopping 29 MPG when he won Defensive Player of the Year. But please, preach to us about MPG as a sure-fire measurement for on-court ability.

Still don't understand the need for that comparison.

Anyway, Rodman has led the league in FG% when he was with Detroit so..

87 is All-Star level which is where Capela is clearly at. MVP candidates (I.E. Superstars) are all in the 90s.

2K Center Ratings
88 Andre Drummond
87 Hassan Whiteside
87 Clint Capela
86 Al Horford
86 Rudy Gobert
85 DeAndre Jordan
85 Marc Gasol

Woah just check out all those NBA superstars! I guess you're right, 2K must be crazy to put Capela in league with these world beaters.

:STRETCH:

Even more straw man lol. Was just saying 87 is pretty close to a 90

Never knew Drummond was an 88 though, that's pretty outrageous.

[Real2KInsider]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Anyway, Rodman has led the league in FG% when he was with Detroit so.

Rodman was an acceptable offensive player in his 20s due to his athletic ability. He wasn't the GOAT Rebounder those seasons either, that came later - he didn't lead the league in rebounding until he turned 30.

Next time when I bring up a Hall of Fame Defensive player I'll be sure to specify that I meant his last ten years (the ones we ACTUALLY remember him for) rather than the stuff that literally happened 30 years ago.

Even more straw man lol.

I don't think you understand what this term means, given your initial statement:

"87 OVR is near superstar level which is too high for a player like Capela."

Never knew Drummond was an 88 though, that's pretty outrageous.

I agree, given that he's a poor man's Clint Capela.

[BluFu]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Just don't see how Capela being an 87 with a limited skillset has anything to do with those other big men with very different skillsets.

Looking at Capela's ratings in depth though, he's probably only too high in Shot Close but that's about it

[jk31]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Has anyone ever suggested any player from their favorite team be downgraded?

myles Turner, and that more than once.

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[jeebs9]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

myles Turner, and that more than once.

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Yup you've brought it up many times.

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[Real2KInsider]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

This is where I've got all my 80+ rated players relative to 2K (listed non-80s are rated 80s by 2K)

POINT GUARD (Pos Avg = 81)
94 (+4) Chris Paul (HOU)
94 (NC) Stephen Curry (GSW)
92 (NC) Russell Westbrook (OKC)
91 (-2) Kyrie Irving (BOS)
90 (+1) Isaiah Thomas (CLE)
89 (NC) Damian Lillard (POR)
88 (-1) John Wall (WAS)
87 (+1) Kemba Walker (CHA)
87 (+1) Kyle Lowry (TOR)
84 (-1) Mike Conley (MEM)
83 (NC) Ben Simmons (PHI) - Rates 82 @ PF
83 (-1) Eric Bledsoe (MIL)
82 (NC) Dennis Schroder (ATL)
82 (-1) D’Angelo Russell (BKN)
82 (+1) Reggie Jackson (DET)
82 (-2) Tyreke Evans (MEM) - Rates 84 @ SG
81 (-2) Louis Williams (LAC)
81 (+2) Darren Collison (IND)
81 (-1) Goran Dragic (MIA)
81 (+1) Dwyane Wade (CLE)
80 (+1) Jeff Teague (MIN)
80 (+2) Ricky Rubio (UTA)

SHOOTING GUARD (Pos Avg = 80)
95 (-1) James Harden (HOU)
90 (+1) DeMar DeRozan (TOR)
89 (NC) Jimmy Butler (MIN)
88 (NC) Victor Oladipo (IND)
86 (-4) Klay Thompson (GSW)
86 (NC) Bradley Beal (WAS)
85 (-2) Devin Booker (PHX)
84 (-1) C.J. McCollum (POR)
81 (NC) Eric Gordon (HOU)
82 (+2) Gary Harris (DEN)
81 (+1) Evan Fournier (ORL)
81 (-1) Donovan Mitchell (UTA)
80 (+1) Jrue Holiday (NOP)
80 (+4) Courtney Lee (NYK)
80 (NC) Jaylen Brown (BOS)
80 (NC) Marcus Smart (BOS)
79 (-1) Rodney Hood (UTA)
79 (-3) Avery Bradley (DET)

SMALL FORWARD (Pos Avg = 79)
97 (+1) Kevin Durant (GSW)
97 (+2) Kawhi Leonard (SAS)
89 (+1) Gordon Hayward (BOS)
88 (NC) Paul George (IND)
86 (+4) Otto Porter (WAS)
86 (+2) Khris Middleton (MIL)
82 (+2) Robert Covington (PHI)
81 (-1) Jayson Tatum (BOS)
81 (NC) Andrew Wiggins (MIN)
81 (+3) Andre Iguodala (GSW)
80 (NC) Tim Hardaway Jr (NYK)
80 (-1) Harrison Barnes (DAL)
78 (-2) T.J. Warren (PHX)=

POWER FORWARD (Pos Avg = 80)
94 (-4) LeBron James (CLE) - Rates 99 @ SF
94 (NC) Anthony Davis (NOP)
90 (-5) Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL) - Rates 94 @ SF
89 (+1) LaMarcus Aldridge (SAS)
87 (NC) Draymond Green (GSW)
86 (-3) Kristaps Porzingis (NYK)
86 (NC) Blake Griffin (LAC)
83 (NC) Aaron Gordon (ORL)
83 (-2) Paul Millsap (DEN)
82 (+2) Nikola Mirotic (CHI)
82 (+1) Tobias Harris (DET)
81 (+2) Serge Ibaka (TOR)
81 (NC) Zach Randolph (SAC)
81 (NC) Derrick Favors (UTA)
81 (NC) Jabari Parker (MIL)
80 (+1) Kyle Kuzma (LAL)
78 (-4) Carmelo Anthony (OKC) - Rates 82 @ SF
77 (-4) Rudy Gay (SAS)* - Rates 81 @ SF
76 (-4) Jeff Green (CLE) - Rates 80 @ SF

CENTER (Pos Avg = 81)
89 (-1) DeMarcus Cousins (NOP)
89 (NC) Nikola Jokic (DEN)
88 (+1) Hassan Whiteside (MIA)
88 (NC) Andre Drummond (DET)
88 (NC) Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN)
88 (+3) DeAndre Jordan (LAC)
87 (-2) Joel Embiid (PHI)
86 (-1) Clint Capela (HOU)
86 (-2) Kevin Love (CLE) - Rates 87 @ PF
86 (NC) Al Horford (BOS)
86 (NC) Rudy Gobert (UTA)
84 (-1) Marc Gasol (MEM)
84 (+1) Enes Kanter (NYK)
84 (+4) Jonas Valanciunas (TOR)
84 (+1) Dwight Howard (CHA)
82 (-1) Nikola Vucevic (ORL)
82 (-1) Steven Adams (OKC)
82 (+1) Pau Gasol (SAS)
81 (NC) Myles Turner (IND)
81 (+6) Tyson Chandler (PHX)
81 (+2) Alex Len (PHX)
80 (+2) DeWayne Dedmon (ATL)
80 (+2) John Collins (ATL) - Rates 81 @ PF
80 (+3) Kyle O’Quinn (NYK)

Clearly there are issues with how 2K evaluates perimeter skills for big men but what can ya do (aside from point it out for FIFTEEN years).

You can basically read my Top 10 as
99 (+1) LeBron James
97 (+1) Kevin Durant
97 (+2) Kawhi Leonard
95 (-1) James Harden
94 (-1) Giannis Antetokounmpo
94 (NC) Anthony Davis
94 (+4) Chris Paul
94 (NC) Stephen Curry
92 (NC) Russell Westbrook
91 (-2) Kyrie Irving

[Real2KInsider]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

My Team Ratings

EASTERN CONFERENCE
96 Celtics (+2): 4.09 SRS
91 Raptors (+5): 7.65 SRS
90 Cavaliers (+1): 2.36 SRS
90 Wizards (-1): 1.56 SRS
88 Bucks (-2): -1.03 SRS
87 Pistons (+7): 1.37 SRS
87 Pacers (+3): 1.31 SRS
86 Heat (+5): -1.36 (Hassan Whiteside just returned)
85 Sixers (-2): 0.18 SRS
84 Hornets (-1): -1.07 SRS
82 Knicks (+2): 0.45 SRS
80 Hawks (NC): -5.01 SRS
80 Magic (-1): -5.75 SRS
78 Bulls (+4): -6.19 SRS
75 Nets (+2): -3.02 SRS

Overrated teams: Wizards, Bucks, Hawks, Magic
Underrated teams: Raptors, Knicks, Nets

WESTERN CONFERENCE
97 Warriors (-1): 9.56 SRS
95 Rockets (-1): 9.19 SRS
94 Spurs (-4): 2.63 SRS
90 Thunder (-2): 2.94 SRS
89 Wolves (+1): 1.30 SRS
88 Blazers (+4): 0.70 SRS
88 Pelicans (+1): 0.28 SRS
87 Nuggets (+2): 1.65 SRS
84 Clippers (+6): -1.34 SRS
83 Jazz (-1): 0.97 SRS
81 Mavericks (+1): -2.13 SRS
80 Lakers (+3): -2.41 SRS
78 Grizzlies (-4): -2.85 SRS
76 Suns (+4): -7.21 SRS
75 Kings (+2): -8.45 SRS

Overrated teams: Pelicans
Underrated teams: Jazz

[DreamAgain]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Somebody please explain to me how Capela is like 5 points higher than Steven Adams but does basically nothing better. I'll wait.

[jeebs9]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Somebody please explain to me how Capela is like 5 points higher than Steven Adams but does basically nothing better. I'll wait.

I'm going to say it's because the Rockets were got as hell. And he recently had those dunk games I posted before.

I know I know it's not perfect. But he'll come back down. Steven Adams game are similar. But Adams doesn't play in DaToni system.

I have clue if you've played with Capela before. But he wasn't threat before the last 2 updates.

I think Capela will come back down. Don't worry about that lol.

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[garyraymond23]

Re: NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Also Adds a Few Players to All-Time Teams (12-23)

Somebody please explain to me how Capela is like 5 points higher than Steven Adams but does basically nothing better. I'll wait.

Because Capela has been playing out of his mind this year, he's probably a having a Top 5-7 season, easily Top 10.

Capela is well deserving of an 87, I don't understand the complaint across the thread here, Rashidi is correct in his assessment of him and I usually have a huge difference in opinions with him.

Glad to see a few updated ratings, although this roster update is far from perfect, Oladipo, Jamal Murray, Beasley, Mirotic and Kuzma all deserved their boosts.

Bias time. Nice to see Embiid at 89, Simmons' play of late was deserving a rating decline, Saric is so inconsistent I don't even care what he's rated. Jerrryd Bayless sucks, wouldn't be surprised if he hits 69 this year.