The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

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  • UnbelievablyRAW
    MVP
    • Sep 2011
    • 1245

    #31
    Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

    Yeah that animation is especially terrible in MyTeam where people have access to cards that have shooting ratings in the high 90s. Even if you aren't running you get thrown back into the paint and can't contest anything.

    I preferred 17's dribble and on ball defence system, with the only changes I would have made being having larger players not get bumped back by smaller defenders (because guys like Kawhi and Jimmy Butler couldn't go anywhere due to their lack of dribble moves). This years is lacking in the skill gap divide because there are animations that can be done on offence that can affect the defender without their input

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    • howardphillips214
      MVP
      • Jan 2018
      • 1928

      #32
      Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

      Last year people would at least COOK me. Honestly, if a dude broke me down last year and it was a good move I would be like "ahhh, he got me" whether I was on the ground or not. Some people actually had real talent on the sticks.

      The problem with ankle breaker last year is people could spam one or two moves and make you stumble like 3 or 4 times in a single possession. Brick walls meant you could die off a screen several times in a game. We had an issue with the frequency at which these things happened, not that they were in the game at all.

      I've not had my ankles snapped but maybe twice this year because ankle breaker was nerfed so hard that people ONLY left right when you guard them.

      My pure point forward would have been a god last year. Now he's a passer who can shoot a decent clip if left open, that's it.

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      • Housh123
        Banned
        • Jan 2011
        • 1173

        #33
        Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

        I like the idea of the snatch because it is effective in real life but no move should MAKE you give up space. If you snatch and I’m lazy and don’t close the space myself then ok. But the move itself should not get space.

        Too many pure sharps are getting greens off that trash


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        • ph33
          MVP
          • Oct 2014
          • 3261

          #34
          Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

          Originally posted by Housh123
          I like the idea of the snatch because it is effective in real life but no move should MAKE you give up space. If you snatch and I’m lazy and don’t close the space myself then ok. But the move itself should not get space.

          Too many pure sharps are getting greens off that trash
          Yeah, like others said, it's a combination of the ball handler getting to go back while you get pushed the other way and can't move at all

          The only real counter to it that I've found is hitting steal right before they do it, which cancels out you getting pushed the other way and being frozen. Unfortunately, that's a total gamble

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          • Housh123
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 1173

            #35
            Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

            Originally posted by ph33
            Yeah, like others said, it's a combination of the ball handler getting to go back while you get pushed the other way and can't move at all



            The only real counter to it that I've found is hitting steal right before they do it, which cancels out you getting pushed the other way and being frozen. Unfortunately, that's a total gamble


            Having a high strength rating is also how you stop it and the on ball rating may be part too


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            • lilteapot
              MVP
              • Aug 2013
              • 4550

              #36
              Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

              Yeah it's cheese but what I ended up doing on proam is stopped holding R2 and just using the left stick, I don't bite doing that. Helps with zig zaggers too.

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              • ph33
                MVP
                • Oct 2014
                • 3261

                #37
                Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

                Originally posted by lilteapot
                Yeah it's cheese but what I ended up doing on proam is stopped holding R2 and just using the left stick, I don't bite doing that. Helps with zig zaggers too.

                Did you mean L2? (Intense D)
                I've found that can be helpful at times

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                • lilteapot
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 4550

                  #38
                  Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

                  Originally posted by ph33
                  Did you mean L2? (Intense D)
                  I've found that can be helpful at times
                  Both yeah, when you hold r2 it's harder to battle the zig zag because once he changes direction you'll go flying the opposite way

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                  • Rockie_Fresh88
                    Lockdown Defender
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 9621

                    #39
                    Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

                    So I was guarding a guy that kept doing this move .

                    One play I literally put my controller down . Do you know the game still pushed me back 6 feet ? Without me even moving .
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                    • King Gro23
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 2548

                      #40
                      Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

                      I dont see it as being OP or Indefensible. Now is it abused by the Online community and Youtubers showcasing Such things... YES.

                      2k Definitely gives you the tools in game to defend this and everything else in the game.

                      My prompt : For the LT/L2 Guys: Find a Snatchback God (Friend) play a few games labbing the snatch back. Test with Definsive Assist with Intense D - on 100
                      Test again with the same controller setting on 0

                      There are natural short comings with CPU automated controls while playing as a USER. The CPU Assist could be pulling you or locking you in said animations even though ; You the human have better reaction and are reacting properly.

                      Before fussing and saying everything is OP or broken, test it out and understand the layers of tools the game gives you to modify play.

                      my 2 cents
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                      • ph33
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 3261

                        #41
                        Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

                        Originally posted by King Gro23
                        Before fussing and saying everything is OP or broken, test it out and understand the layers of tools the game gives you to modify play.
                        I have my defensive assist settings to 0. If I play someone who I know will use it what I usually do is just move to his side so that I don't get that pushed off animation.

                        With that said, it's broken and it's OP. I shouldn't have to move to the side so that I don't get thrown back 3 feet.

                        my 2 cents

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                        • King Gro23
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 2548

                          #42
                          Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

                          Originally posted by ph33
                          I have my defensive assist settings to 0. If I play someone who I know will use it what I usually do is just move to his side so that I don't get that pushed off animation.

                          With that said, it's broken and it's OP. I shouldn't have to move to the side so that I don't get thrown back 3 feet.

                          my 2 cents
                          Do you understand competitive basketball? We will use a real world example..
                          You have the basketball and are driving(setting up) a drive to then combo a snatch back jumper with so.

                          As you drive im connected hip riding" bodying your drive. The effectiveness of a snatch back is based off of weight momentum and force.

                          Weight is something that could be removed from the equation because Whether it's yogi Ferrell, or big baby Davis it doesn't matter what the defenders weight or strength is. In perspective to offensive execution of the snatch

                          The snatch is getting a defender lateral or on heels using his opposite momentum. The ball handler prepares to then,"snatch" which is a FORCE he exerts on the defender to use and aid his explosiveness backward or cross way.

                          Can be subtle force a stiff limp positioned arm nudge/

                          a leaning shoulder bringing handlers head nose far over toes in semi crouched stance to then explode cross stream/

                          there is the infamous mj arm sweep/

                          hardens crab arm which is (off hand "ball protect" pose) in which he uses to boost his defenders momentum in wrong direction with a crab dribble one step punch all whilst it aids his snatch move.


                          As you speak of not preferring to be lateral or to the side of a driver. Imagine taking those said moves from a blunt square angle.. You as a defender will be impacted more.. Than if your positioned side ways in more of a open gate stance. You don't want to ride him the entire drive because that is exactly what makes the snatch so effective..,

                          Defensive tips are the rubber band technique ride and hop off quickly beat him to a spot. When you reach him again hit him,with a wide wingspan square close out aggressively to impead. The process of a snatch back while moving is a limited dribble move. If you are riding him from half court that's your initial issue.. He can work you to 3pt line and snatch he can work you clear to mid range and snatch ..


                          Also keep in mind the concept of chasing the shooter off the arc.. You don't stay in a defensive stance a lot its more a series of quick short close outs broken into sprints beating him to a spot on drives.

                          Ill add more in 2k terms and try to add photos

                          I hope all can visualize what I'm saying

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                          • Rockie_Fresh88
                            Lockdown Defender
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 9621

                            #43
                            Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

                            Originally posted by King Gro23
                            I dont see it as being OP or Indefensible. Now is it abused by the Online community and Youtubers showcasing Such things... YES.

                            2k Definitely gives you the tools in game to defend this and everything else in the game.

                            My prompt : For the LT/L2 Guys: Find a Snatchback God (Friend) play a few games labbing the snatch back. Test with Definsive Assist with Intense D - on 100
                            Test again with the same controller setting on 0

                            There are natural short comings with CPU automated controls while playing as a USER. The CPU Assist could be pulling you or locking you in said animations even though ; You the human have better reaction and are reacting properly.

                            Before fussing and saying everything is OP or broken, test it out and understand the layers of tools the game gives you to modify play.

                            my 2 cents
                            I literally put my controller down and still got pushed back lol . How is that not a problem .
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                            • ph33
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 3261

                              #44
                              The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

                              Originally posted by King Gro23
                              I know everything. Call me James Naismith

                              Yeah, I understand competitive basketball, but your head is so far up your egotistical *** that I'm not going to waste time with you

                              No sense arguing with the guy who acts like he knows all. And you are that guy

                              Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                              I literally put my controller down and still got pushed back lol . How is that not a problem .

                              You need to learn competitive ball and git gud, Rockie
                              Last edited by ph33; 02-24-2018, 12:44 PM.

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                              • King Gro23
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 2548

                                #45
                                Re: The Snatchback Dribble Move is the Most Cheesiest Thing Ever

                                Originally posted by ph33
                                Yeah, I understand competitive basketball, but your head is so far up your egotistical *** that I'm not going to waste time with you

                                No sense arguing with the guy who acts like he knows all. And you are that guy




                                You need to learn competitive ball and git gud, Rockie
                                I wrote all that so you could visualize . instead your small mind got butthurt you phase me zero

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