The NBA 2K League Selects its Players, Predictable Outcry Ensues From Those Not Selected

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i hate that logic. "it is what it is" yeah we already know that. that doesnt make it right. the idea where you just constantly shrug off all shady behavior because "it is what it is" is the reason we have to deal with the shadiness to begin with. That same "oh well... thats just the way it goes" is the exact same mentality that was in hollywood for all those decades until this year when people FINALLY started exposing people for what they were doing to women and children. that hollywood stuff coming out is a lesson not just to that industry but to everyone in general. if you keep taking it, they will keep dishing it. Only when you get TIRED of the BS and say something will you see things change. But keep rolling along with the "oh well thats status quo" mentality and nothing will ever change.

I didnt say ANYTHING you put in quotations...

I said well, exactly what you quoted, which is true. All the "likes" you may get from throwing some heat 2K's way. arent worth the bridges you're burning and opportunities you may be squandering ...It's a lesson that many have learned before and will keep on learning....It's not just about this video.

Listen, Co-signing every slight against 2k isnt fighting the good fight here man. It's honestly just lumping you into a group that will altogether be ignored.

Pick your battles.



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[splashmountain]

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I didnt say ANYTHING you put in quotations...

I said well, exactly what you quoted, which is true. All the "likes" you may get from throwing some heat 2K's way. arent worth the bridges you're burning and opportunities you may be squandering ...It's a lesson that many have learned before and will keep on learning....It's not just about this video.

Listen, Co-signing every slight against 2k isnt fighting the good fight here man. It's honestly just lumping you into a group that will altogether be ignored.

Pick your battles.



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you said pick your battles. which ones? how do you know when to choose them?

thats the point. if you sit on the sideline and never pick any battles but always reply to others that do with ....pick your battles. then you are saying exactly what i stated. should you choose your battles and not battle all of the time? YES. So why are you guys assuming he chose incorrectly? this is his first battle. Now if you see him pop up and going in on some other career he's trying to pursue then thats 2. if he does it again, thats 3. then you can say this guy is just always battling, you need to PICK/CHOOSE your battles wisely. You can't fight everyone all of the time. This is this guys first battle. let him live. lol.

and if i co-sign something its because its TRUE. not opinion. actual truth. I dont co-sign lies. and I'm not afraid who will or wont listen to what i have to say "around here". because I know there's always people lurking on these boards that never sign up, that never post, that feel the way I feel about certain things and think the way I think or find what I'm bringing to the table interesting and another side to things. See its easy to run behind the big companies. that takes no energy, no effort, no intellect. not saying you or anyone else doesnt have those things. just saying in general. it takes nothing to run behind the status quo. it actually takes something extra to not run with the status quo all of the time when you know its incorrect.
I'm grown and have been grown for a minute. I've taken loses by not saying anything in situations I probably should've chose to battle. I've taken losses when I made my choice to stand my ground and draw a line in the sand and battle, but I only stood my grown when I was on RIGHT ground. So no matter what happened after that I wasnt really bothered by it because I knew that was a possibility. Thats the biggest lesson a young person like WC can learn. once you stand your ground or make a statement about someone doing others wrong even if you're right you may end up not having the ability to be a part of that thing that big corporation or big group owns/runs. As long as you're ok with that. Then Tell it Like it is. If you're to afraid to speak up for fear of losing the chance at being a part later down the line(which also is never guaranteed) then dont rattle the cage. Thats a lesson he will be learning as we speak. better to learn in your early 20's than later on in life.

He'll be aight.

[jfsolo]

Re: The NBA 2K League Selects its Players, Predictable Outcry Ensues From Those Not S

I didnt say ANYTHING you put in quotations...

I said well, exactly what you quoted, which is true. All the "likes" you may get from throwing some heat 2K's way. arent worth the bridges you're burning and opportunities you may be squandering ...It's a lesson that many have learned before and will keep on learning....It's not just about this video.

Listen, Co-signing every slight against 2k isnt fighting the good fight here man. It's honestly just lumping you into a group that will altogether be ignored.

Pick your battles.



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I'm paraphrasing what Born said last week, People are burning bridges that they were never going to cross anyway. Any person who thought that being picked was ever going to be just about the best stats, stick skills, or gameplay mechanic manipulation, was never going to be picked in a million years.

Some people are pathologically incapable of understanding the full picture of what the NBA's expectations for participating in this league are. Others may intellectually understand, but are emotionally unable to abide by those expectations.

No mistakes that 2K made in how they executed the selection process this year(and a lot of things were obviously haphazard) is an excuse for not dealing with the reality of how things turned out in an adult fashion.

I could see them creating a process going forward that weeds out all of the people who can't tow the line before there is any sort of combine/tryout.

[jeebs9]

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I'm paraphrasing what Born said last week, People are burning bridges that they were never going to cross anyway. Any person who thought that being picked was ever going to be just about the best stats, stick skills, or gameplay mechanic manipulation, was never going to be picked in a million years.

Some people are pathologically incapable of understanding the full picture of what the NBA's expectations for participating in this league are. Others may intellectually understand, but are emotionally unable to abide by those expectations.

No mistakes that 2K made in how they executed the selection process this year(and a lot of things were obviously haphazard) is an excuse for not dealing with the reality of how things turned out in an adult fashion.

I could see them creating a process going forward that weeds out all of the people who can't tow the line before there is any sort of combine/tryout.

Yup, that's my idea. Make a college basketball type of play. Dump it down to highest a player can be rated to 80. And then let the Pros draft them. But also have a coming up league like the G-League. Make that half pay or online like the road to the finals. So people can look into getting drafted out of the road to the finals. Basically the the Final Four. I would steal from the old 24/7 mode... anytime you stop playing your rating goes down.

[splashmountain]

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I'm paraphrasing what Born said last week, People are burning bridges that they were never going to cross anyway. Any person who thought that being picked was ever going to be just about the best stats, stick skills, or gameplay mechanic manipulation, was never going to be picked in a million years.

Some people are pathologically incapable of understanding the full picture of what the NBA's expectations for participating in this league are. Others may intellectually understand, but are emotionally unable to abide by those expectations.

No mistakes that 2K made in how they executed the selection process this year(and a lot of things were obviously haphazard) is an excuse for not dealing with the reality of how things turned out in an adult fashion.

I could see them creating a process going forward that weeds out all of the people who can't tow the line before there is any sort of combine/tryout.

now i some what agree with this because thats what most corporations do. especially in the entertain space. you are supposed to tow that line and if not. odds are you wont be apart of it. Unless, your entertainment value is so high they are willing to deal with you not towing said line. someone brought up Allen Iverson. perfect example. that talent was bar none so you had to deal with him not towing the line. Colin Kaep was very talented but not talented enough to force his employers in his industry to hire him when he wasnt going to tow that company line. This is life. Thats the beauty of this league for these very young adults some are basically kids that just turned 18. you aint grown yet. they just say you are. lol.

So this will continue to be a learning experience for them. a lot of them will OVER react due to not getting their way. Whats going to be hilarious to watch is when some of those actually drafted Lose it and somebody loses their spot due to this. its going to happen. Put your money on it. but it will be a huge learning experience for them. It doesnt tell them what to do and what not to do. It will present them with options on what to do in certain situations and what results are most likely going to happen because of what options they choose.
excellent way to get a jump start on real life. vs being at home in that parent's basement hoping your mom paid your car insurance for you again.

[splashmountain]

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Yup, that's my idea. Make a college basketball type of play. Dump it down to highest a player can be rated to 80. And then let the Pros draft them. But also have a coming up league like the G-League. Make that half pay or online like the road to the finals. So people can look into getting drafted out of the road to the finals. Basically the the Final Four. I would steal from the old 24/7 mode... anytime you stop playing your rating goes down.

now you're speaking my language jeebs.

i've been saying this for a long time as well. the my players are made a certain way that works well from a 2k business perspective aka VC purchases.

But they should make it where you have to work your player out constantly or else he will start to lose his abilities. if you dont shoot those kobe 1000 makes a day in the off season. you wont be at kobe mvp level when the season starts. your shooting will be solid but spotty. if you aint hitting the right things in the training room. you will lose or not progress certain athletic/strength/flexibility/injury attributes. and like you said, you aint playing for whatever reason. you start losing attributes. dont complain to me about "but but i cant be on all the time." aint my problem. thats the way the game is in real life. you either are about that 2k life or you're not. that alone will separate the real from the not fakers but those that aint that serious for whatever reason.

but to play in a pre league or college like you said jeebs would be the best way to cut down on the prospects.

[Yesh2kdone]

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but his complaints are true. those messages have been confirmed by the league to be true. which is why they tried to clarify some things.

at the end of the day they promised one thing. lied about it and did something else. some guy got rejected got mad about that and used that anger to expose the fact that he knew they were not telling the truth.

did they lie? YES.

move along, nothing else to see here.

and i'm glad he exposed them because you need people like that to expose liars or lies. it keeps these big companies on their toes. otherwise they would just completely run us little guys over and then hit the reverse on our heads.

Your language is just way too harsh. That team manager was just lying about being able to get the kid in. He was already in, but there was just a mess up with the emails.

I'm not a huge fan of the way 2k will often go about it's business as a company in areas such as transparency and communication, but I think people just prefer to believe there is something sinister at work, rather than accepting 2k's history of incompetence - especially when new features are rolled out.

Did 2k not communicate as well as they should have done? Absolutely
Do they have a history of doing this kind of thing? Absolutely
Did they intentionally go all out to screw people over? Of course not.

[splashmountain]

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You're language is just way too harsh. That team manager was just lying about being able to get the kid in. He was already in, but there was just a mess up with the emails.

I'm not a huge fan of the way 2k will often go about it's business as a company in areas such as transparency and communication, but I think people just prefer to believe there is something sinister at work, rather than accepting 2k's history of incompetence - especially when new features are rolled out.

Did 2k not communicate as well as they should have done? Absolutely
Do they have a history of doing this kind of thing? Absolutely
Did they intentionally go all out to screw people over? Of course not.

its not about being harsh or not. the guy making the vids is basing his entire thing on did they say the combine was the only (basketball) thing that would count. and the answer to that question is yes thats what 2k said. they didnt have to say that. and they should not have said that. but they did. so they are catching heat for it. nothing harsh about that at all. you say one thing you do another. you deserve to be called out for it. nothing harsh there at all.

[jeebs9]

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You're language is just way too harsh. That team manager was just lying about being able to get the kid in. He was already in, but there was just a mess up with the emails.

I'm not a huge fan of the way 2k will often go about it's business as a company in areas such as transparency and communication, but I think people just prefer to believe there is something sinister at work, rather than accepting 2k's history of incompetence - especially when new features are rolled out.

Did 2k not communicate as well as they should have done? Absolutely
Do they have a history of doing this kind of thing? Absolutely
Did they intentionally go all out to screw people over? Of course not.

Exactly what I was saying....2k has had history of this. And at this point I'm blown away people are shocked here.

[splashmountain]

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Exactly what I was saying....2k has had history of this. And at this point I'm blown away people are shocked here.

they thought "this time would be different" since this time they are partnering with 2 other corporations that are making a lot of money. People perhaps thought.. or hoped.. that things would be different this time. And to their point this wasnt technically 2k's doing. It's the league itself. I can blame 2k for bad servers or a poorly created game. but the league isnt just a bunch of 2k employees. its e-league people/nba people, new hires for the league who were never affiliated with 2k. so i could see how some could have a legit hope for something better this time around.

[basehead617]

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Hope dudes like sour grapes, cuz there’s now an endless supply of them.

[Jrocc23]

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It's pretty obvious it was rigged. Do you really believe if gamer tags and PSNs were hidden and they just had to use their data from the combine and application to select guys they would've chosen a lot of the "known" guys like Dimes and some others? I HIGHLY doubt it. They knew most of the players they wanted and most likely all of them was selected. Also had players that was "known" that was doing things that was supposed to get you instantly disqualified from being drafted like quitting out of games and also "throwing" games because they are upset about something.


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