Dear Broadcast Cam users

[JustCallMeSleepy]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

Everybody who doesn’t play the game just like me is FU***** TRASH, AND I WON’T HEAR OTHERWISE. This guy.


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[howardphillips214]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

I've played enough pro-am with all types of skill levels to know broadcam users are the worst. Like you guys keep acting like it's "my" bias. No this is the NBA 2K LEAGUES "bias" and just reality of facts. "i'm not gonna risk throwing it down court" Lol what. This is what I hate about PG's like that, they turbo down the court and wait for the defense to set up instead of early offense passes ala Lonzo Ball.

You're right, first person view doesn't exist. But as far as up down left right. If I'm watching a pickup game as a spectator on a side bench, that's broadcast. If I'm in the game it's front-back. It's gonna be the closest you get to seeing those angles.

And what's funny is the people "liking" some of these posts or commenting don't even play Pro-am at any competitive level lmao.

Bro, I've played pro am at every level. From the turds of walk on to the teams that run 5 out every possession in team. I've got over 1000 walk on games played with a pretty good record. The cam that people play on isn't nearly as important as making the extra pass, or sticking to your man, getting back on defense, hitting the big man on the roll, watching for shooters in the corner... The fundamentals of the game of basketball are what's important.

If you're continually getting frustrated from other players, you can attribute most of that to yourself. While it's true all online game modes are better with friends, there are ways to get your teammates to trust you. I've found while playing on my slasher, the paint is always crowded and therefore I'm rendered ineffective while playing with randoms. So I'll grab my point forward and start hitting my teammates early so they can see me when I'm open.

I get a lot more friend requests when I'm throwing out a bunch of dimes rather than scoring a lot. If I have a team of friends and they know I'm on my slasher then I can have fun with him. If I'm playing with randoms I play with complementary players. I'll run big a lot of times when my friends aren't on just so I know I can get a full team vs running with 2 guards and 2 CPU bigs.

It's all about being what your team needs vs always trying to get it done how YOU want.

[dwayne12345]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

There's no blind spot on broadcast cam that having a high basketball IQ can't solve. If someone throws a full court pass that I can't see the receiver that would mean that I was out of position.

[Keith01]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

Everybody who doesn’t play the game just like me is FU***** TRASH, AND I WON’T HEAR OTHERWISE. This guy.


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Yeah that's EXACTLY what I said..... Your inability to comprehend english or logic - not my prob.
I'm starting to think reading comprehension (instead of knee-jerk reacting or hallucinated projections of your own) is a rare ability. Check the original post, which lists the many flaws of broadcast. You want to debate those points, debate that. This guy...

[Keith01]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

Bro, I've played pro am at every level. From the turds of walk on to the teams that run 5 out every possession in team. I've got over 1000 walk on games played with a pretty good record. The cam that people play on isn't nearly as important as making the extra pass, or sticking to your man, getting back on defense, hitting the big man on the roll, watching for shooters in the corner... The fundamentals of the game of basketball are what's important.

If you're continually getting frustrated from other players, you can attribute most of that to yourself. While it's true all online game modes are better with friends, there are ways to get your teammates to trust you. I've found while playing on my slasher, the paint is always crowded and therefore I'm rendered ineffective while playing with randoms. So I'll grab my point forward and start hitting my teammates early so they can see me when I'm open.

I get a lot more friend requests when I'm throwing out a bunch of dimes rather than scoring a lot. If I have a team of friends and they know I'm on my slasher then I can have fun with him. If I'm playing with randoms I play with complementary players. I'll run big a lot of times when my friends aren't on just so I know I can get a full team vs running with 2 guards and 2 CPU bigs.

It's all about being what your team needs vs always trying to get it done how YOU want.

Camera angle and bball iq go hand in hand. With all things being equal, 2K > broadcast every time 24/7 365. You act like I'm the problem with these broadcast using noobs. No buddy, I guarantee I'm not. I have top 100 pro am experience, open invites to Top 50 teams with 90% win%. There's guys in the top 50 who I used to run with who aren't even 1st tier level players when they were on my squad. I've been ranked top 10 in past NBA 2K's. I've played real basketball since I was 8 yrs old. Played in high school, kept pace with college competition. You REALLY don't know who you're talking to. a.k.a. I know how to play this sport and 2k.

Here's what you'll find from the NBA 2K League players - the best players in the world -- not ONE of them uses broadcast. Hmmmmm.... maybe there's a reason for that? But yeah, it's just "me" and "my bias".

[Keith01]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

There's no blind spot on broadcast cam that having a high basketball IQ can't solve. If someone throws a full court pass that I can't see the receiver that would mean that I was out of position.

Nope. You're not seeing pass to assist opportunities too if you use broadcast...

[dwayne12345]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

Nope. You're not seeing pass to assist opportunities too if you use broadcast...

I do those all the time on broadcast. It's math. If I am in the back court and I see 5 defenders and only 4 offensive players including me, then there's an open man down court.

[PippenFan]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

Exactly plus you could always kick to the closes person who's open on the fast break run on broadcast, than they'd have a much better bet at getting the ball to the person further down the court than you trying to toss it all the way down there yourself.

Never fails for me.

[Pokes404]

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Camera angle and bball iq go hand in hand.

That's an absurd statement. If that were the case, then that would mean everyone who played on the 2K camera had a high basketball IQ. I think we all know that isn't the case (for any camera angle). I'm assuming you mean that if a camera angle is too limiting then it limits a player's potential court vision, which basically means their b-ball IQ can only be so high. That's what I'm assuming you meant. However, that's not what "hand-in-hand" means. Hand-in-Hand means that there's a direct correlation between two factors.

With all things being equal, 2K > broadcast every time 24/7 365. You act like I'm the problem with these broadcast using noobs. No buddy, I guarantee I'm not. I have top 100 pro am experience, open invites to Top 50 teams with 90% win%. There's guys in the top 50 who I used to run with who aren't even 1st tier level players when they were on my squad. I've been ranked top 10 in past NBA 2K's. I've played real basketball since I was 8 yrs old. Played in high school, kept pace with college competition. You REALLY don't know who you're talking to. a.k.a. I know how to play this sport and 2k.

Here's what you'll find from the NBA 2K League players - the best players in the world -- not ONE of them uses broadcast. Hmmmmm.... maybe there's a reason for that? But yeah, it's just "me" and "my bias".

OK, here's the thing. There is a massive gap between "one of the Top 100-200 players in the World," and "you make Pro Am and Park unbearable for your teammates." There's a lot of grey area between those two extremes. That's what most of the responses have been alluding to in this thread. I don't think anyone in here has argued that the broadcast camera is better than the 2K camera, or even that it's equally as good for that matter. I prefer the broadcast camera (for numerous reasons that I won't go over again), but I've said all along that the camera has limitations in some situations. I was simply responding to the idea brought forth in the original post that if you use the broadcast camera you're a bad teammate and must be a noob who just wants a "cinematic" angle. No, I'm actually a pretty good teammate who uses broadcast because I legitimately play better offense and defense from that view.

And I'm just going to say this ... you're not the only person who's played a lot of basketball in their life. I've been playing ball since I was 9. I played all throughout high school too. I never played college ball, but I've run lots of games with plenty of guys who did and I didn't look completely out of place on the court. I've coached the game. And finally, I've been playing 2K basketball games since College Hoops 2K7. I'm certainly not trying to brag (those would be some pretty lame things to be bragging about lol), I'm just pointing out that you're not the only one who knows what they're talking about.

[bkrich83]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

Public Service Announcement

Dear Broadcast Cam users:

You make being on your team in pro-am & mypark unbearable

- It's called dpad right > 2k cam

- How many times are you going to get beat on fastbreaks 'cause of blind spots

- How many times you gonna try to turbo turbo turbo towards baseline and try to dunk on 3 people

- No player has this view in IRL basketball. It's the default TV angle spectator view, not playing view.

- You like cinematic, TV angle basketball. Great, play offline so the rest of us don't have to suffer as your teammate

- There are more bad shots taken on broadcast cam than any other angle

- You are more likely to not be in sync with your teammates

- You are more likely to not to see passing angles and opportunities

- You are more likely to suck at team defense and filling gaps

- If I message you and say "use 2k cam" and you respond with "shut up" or "reported", this just proves you are a crackhead, and I'm not surprised you use broadcast cam.

And last but not least...

- There are ZERO top ranked pro-am teams that use broadcast camera. Check their twitch. LEARN FROM THEM!

I've messaged dudes and many have said "thanks" and their game improved 10x afterwards and it was like a completely different player. Sometimes it's not the player, it's the camera angle they're using.

Must be spring break, the kids are clearly out of school.

[howardphillips214]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

Camera angle and bball iq go hand in hand. With all things being equal, 2K > broadcast every time 24/7 365. You act like I'm the problem with these broadcast using noobs. No buddy, I guarantee I'm not. I have top 100 pro am experience, open invites to Top 50 teams with 90% win%. There's guys in the top 50 who I used to run with who aren't even 1st tier level players when they were on my squad. I've been ranked top 10 in past NBA 2K's. I've played real basketball since I was 8 yrs old. Played in high school, kept pace with college competition. You REALLY don't know who you're talking to. a.k.a. I know how to play this sport and 2k.

Here's what you'll find from the NBA 2K League players - the best players in the world -- not ONE of them uses broadcast. Hmmmmm.... maybe there's a reason for that? But yeah, it's just "me" and "my bias".

You know... I was going to do the whole "my record speaks for itself" but I decided against it because I have nothing to prove to you. I'm DEFINITELY not going to start spouting off how I'm this that and the 3rd best player in the world. This is how I know YOU'RE garbage and why this thread explains why YOU'RE the problem.

IF YOU'RE SO GOOD, WHY ARE YOU STILL RUNNING WITH RANDOMS AND SO MUCH SO THAT YOU'VE BEEN RANTING FOR DAYS NOW HOW EVERYONE ELSE IS TRASH BECAUSE THEY PLAY ON BROADCAST?

I'm an ABOVE AVERAGE player and I have plenty of buddies I run with consistently. So many, in fact, I hardly run with randoms. I just got off work and JUST walked in the door and I'm already in a party RIGHT NOW.

If you're this amazing player, get some friends.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

Broadcast can put you at a disadvantage in pro am . Of course you can void a lot of this with good IQ. But a lot of 2k players don’t have high IQ in pro am . Just certain spots you can’t see as well and a lot of missed opportunities.

Of course you can void all this with high IQ. But a lot of 2k players don’t have high IQ

[Keith01]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

That's an absurd statement. If that were the case, then that would mean everyone who played on the 2K camera had a high basketball IQ. I think we all know that isn't the case (for any camera angle). I'm assuming you mean that if a camera angle is too limiting then it limits a player's potential court vision, which basically means their b-ball IQ can only be so high. That's what I'm assuming you meant. However, that's not what "hand-in-hand" means. Hand-in-Hand means that there's a direct correlation between two factors.

What LOL. Not complex -- hand in hand -- meaning if you got IQ, you're using 2k cam. Of course not all 2K cam users have IQ, that's not what I mean. I meant, if you REALLY have iq, you're using 2k cam ... case in point: NBA 2K league - 102 players. Find me one who uses broadcast.

OK, here's the thing. There is a massive gap between "one of the Top 100-200 players in the World," and "you make Pro Am and Park unbearable for your teammates." There's a lot of grey area between those two extremes. That's what most of the responses have been alluding to in this thread. I don't think anyone in here has argued that the broadcast camera is better than the 2K camera, or even that it's equally as good for that matter. I prefer the broadcast camera (for numerous reasons that I won't go over again), but I've said all along that the camera has limitations in some situations. I was simply responding to the idea brought forth in the original post that if you use the broadcast camera you're a bad teammate and must be a noob who just wants a "cinematic" angle. No, I'm actually a pretty good teammate who uses broadcast because I legitimately play better offense and defense from that view.

And I'm just going to say this ... you're not the only person who's played a lot of basketball in their life. I've been playing ball since I was 9. I played all throughout high school too. I never played college ball, but I've run lots of games with plenty of guys who did and I didn't look completely out of place on the court. I've coached the game. And finally, I've been playing 2K basketball games since College Hoops 2K7. I'm certainly not trying to brag (those would be some pretty lame things to be bragging about lol), I'm just pointing out that you're not the only one who knows what they're talking about.

I only listed my "basketball resume" 'cause other dude was trying to say I was the problem on the team, not my teammates. Pretty sure I'm not the one in the scenario lacking bball iq, like he suggested.

I said in OP that not all users who use broadcast cam users are noobs. I even said AFTER I got some to change their angle, they're like "holy crap thanks, I didn't know what I was missing, this is much better". It's a noob tactic to use broadcast cam, whether someone is a noob or not themselves. That's the point. To get decent players to stop handicapping themselves, AND the team. Camera angle makes a HUUUUUUGE difference.

[Keith01]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

You know... I was going to do the whole "my record speaks for itself" but I decided against it because I have nothing to prove to you. I'm DEFINITELY not going to start spouting off how I'm this that and the 3rd best player in the world. This is how I know YOU'RE garbage and why this thread explains why YOU'RE the problem.

IF YOU'RE SO GOOD, WHY ARE YOU STILL RUNNING WITH RANDOMS AND SO MUCH SO THAT YOU'VE BEEN RANTING FOR DAYS NOW HOW EVERYONE ELSE IS TRASH BECAUSE THEY PLAY ON BROADCAST?

I'm an ABOVE AVERAGE player and I have plenty of buddies I run with consistently. So many, in fact, I hardly run with randoms. I just got off work and JUST walked in the door and I'm already in a party RIGHT NOW.

If you're this amazing player, get some friends.

Calm down guy LOL. Hmm, well let's see you tried to imply that I was the problem not my teammates. Nope, sorry. This isn't ego, this is fact. I know more about basketball than most. Not gonna hide that or worry about your feelings. It's not about ego, it's about knowing something and knowing pros vs cons of strategy in the game. Yeah "im trash" yet you the one defending broadcast cam. I'm on the right side of 102 pro players, while you're defending noob tactics. Sure buddy...

Dude 1) "get some friends". Wow didn't know we were back in h.s. popularity contest lmao. You do know that your xbox "friends" aren't really IRL friends right? Wow... 2) I don't just run with randoms. It's not just randoms. I go between walkon late night, team pro am with friends, and crew-hopping to recruit decent players. And even teams with 75%+ win% have these misfit noobs who are still using broadcast. If you read the OP, this was a "PSA" lol. Why? 'Cause I'm sick of having to message or tell WAAY too many players that your camera angle is killing the team. That the reason you didn't see that angle, didn't rotate to that man, had bad transition D, is because your camera angle. 2K Players should ALREADY know this. When it's a HUMAN MULTIPLAYER mode, then other HUMANS are going to have issue with how you play if it's hurting the team. If they're too sensitive to take criticism/tips, that's their problem or they should play offline.

[howardphillips214]

Re: Dear Broadcast Cam users

Calm down guy LOL. Hmm, well let's see you tried to imply that I was the problem not my teammates. Nope, sorry. This isn't ego, this is fact. I know more about basketball than most. Not gonna hide that or worry about your feelings. It's not about ego, it's about knowing something and knowing pros vs cons of strategy in the game. Yeah "im trash" yet you the one defending broadcast cam. I'm on the right side of 102 pro players, while you're defending noob tactics. Sure buddy...

Dude 1) "get some friends". Wow didn't know we were back in h.s. popularity contest lmao. You do know that your xbox "friends" aren't really IRL friends right? Wow... 2) I don't just run with randoms. It's not just randoms. I go between walkon late night, team pro am with friends, and crew-hopping to recruit decent players. And even teams with 75%+ win% have these misfit noobs who are still using broadcast. If you read the OP, this was a "PSA" lol. Why? 'Cause I'm sick of having to message or tell WAAY too many players that your camera angle is killing the team. That the reason you didn't see that angle, didn't rotate to that man, had bad transition D, is because your camera angle. 2K Players should ALREADY know this. When it's a HUMAN MULTIPLAYER mode, then other HUMANS are going to have issue with how you play if it's hurting the team. If they're too sensitive to take criticism/tips, that's their problem or they should play offline.

There's maybe a 3% user base that only plays broadcast in pro am, Max. YOU'RE Triiiiiiping.