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  • BluFu
    MVP
    • May 2012
    • 3596

    #61
    Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

    Originally posted by Impetuous65
    Offense, offense, offense. What about Defense? why a game play blog and only show love to one side of the ball? I do like what I see from the offense but damn the achilles heel for this game is the defense and they still have Scott in WitSec Program.
    This shouldn't be overlooked. The Prelude was solid but there's still a lot of room for the AI to grow. 2K18 was already really deep in terms of offensive playcalling but not many people actually used them because of how easy it was to score without running any kind of offense.

    Structured offenses shouldn't be a niche in an NBA game, they should be a necessity most of the time.

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    • T.B
      Rookie
      • Aug 2018
      • 115

      #62
      Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

      Originally posted by Impetuous65
      Offense, offense, offense. What about Defense? why a game play blog and only show love to one side of the ball? I do like what I see from the offense but damn the achilles heel for this game is the defense and they still have Scott in WitSec Program.
      Well you do know that the man who wrote The Blog only works on the offensive side of the game right?

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      • Baebae32
        Pro
        • Nov 2015
        • 880

        #63
        Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

        Czar if you are still around i have a question.

        Was the end of shot clock AI and end of game AI touched on any? Even though it has improved. There are still times where the AI lacks urgency to create a good luck and will settle for hoisting a contested jumper. This is mainly when the star players are off the court.

        Was wondering if you guys added in logic for this situation this year.

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        • Da_Czar
          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
          • Jul 2002
          • 5408

          #64
          Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

          Originally posted by Baebae32
          Czar if you are still around i have a question.

          Was the end of shot clock AI and end of game AI touched on any? Even though it has improved. There are still times where the AI lacks urgency to create a good luck and will settle for hoisting a contested jumper. This is mainly when the star players are off the court.

          Was wondering if you guys added in logic for this situation this year.
          We added to what was there but honestly, it probably needs some dedicated work to get right. I'm not comfortable saying it's fixed so just assume it is the same.

          Next year I may cool it on adding more stuff and just try and get important but overlooked areas like end game up to snuff. Just thinking out loud so not of this is set in stone. Technically what we have done should be enough but as I said we need to write some specific stuff to clean that up.
          Last edited by Da_Czar; 09-04-2018, 05:21 PM.
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          • LorenzoDC
            MVP
            • Sep 2010
            • 1857

            #65
            Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

            Originally posted by Da_Czar
            We added to what was there but honestly, it probably needs some dedicated work to get right. I'm not comfortable saying it's fixed so just assume it is the same.

            Next year I may cool it on adding more stuff and just try and get important but overlooked areas like end game. Technically what we have done should be enough but as I said we need to write some specific stuff to clean that up.

            Maybe try some AI for the
            Spoiler
            ?


            I know you won't comment, but I bet you laughed too.


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            • tril
              MVP
              • Nov 2004
              • 2913

              #66
              Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog with Plenty of Gameplay Videos (via @Da_Czar)

              BRING IT ON... CANT HARDLY WAIT!!!

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              • Baebae32
                Pro
                • Nov 2015
                • 880

                #67
                Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

                Originally posted by Da_Czar
                We added to what was there but honestly, it probably needs some dedicated work to get right. I'm not comfortable saying it's fixed so just assume it is the same.

                Next year I may cool it on adding more stuff and just try and get important but overlooked areas like end game up to snuff. Just thinking out loud so not of this is set in stone. Technically what we have done should be enough but as I said we need to write some specific stuff to clean that up.
                Good deal Czar. It'll get ironed out eventually.

                One more question if you dont mind. There was mention of new tendencies mentioned in the blog. So is it safe to assume that there were no new additions?

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                • scottyp180
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 2201

                  #68
                  Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

                  Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                  Maybe try some AI for the
                  Spoiler
                  ?


                  I know you won't comment, but I bet you laughed too.


                  People are still upset about 2K's marketing? I just don't see their sales being impacted one way or another whether they continue doing what they've always done or increase the effort put into the marketing. How much and how soon do you need to know about a game before making a decision to buy it?

                  But to stay on topic this all sounds great. This is about as sim as it gets when it comes to sports games. The game is at a point where it could be used as a teaching and coaching tool. But, at the same time, if all of this is overwhelming or just too much for some people the game can still be enjoyed by novices or people looking for a more casual experience.

                  It really makes me wish 2K could get another opportunity at making an NFL game. I'm enjoying Madden 19, probably my favorite Madden ever, but I can't help but think where NFL 2k would be at this point if those games were still being made.

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                  • LorenzoDC
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1857

                    #69
                    Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

                    Originally posted by scottyp180
                    People are still upset about 2K's marketing? I just don't see their sales being impacted one way or another whether they continue doing what they've always done or increase the effort put into the marketing. How much and how soon do you need to know about a game before making a decision to buy it?

                    But to stay on topic this all sounds great. This is about as sim as it gets when it comes to sports games. The game is at a point where it could be used as a teaching and coaching tool. But, at the same time, if all of this is overwhelming or just too much for some people the game can still be enjoyed by novices or people looking for a more casual experience.

                    It really makes me wish 2K could get another opportunity at making an NFL game. I'm enjoying Madden 19, probably my favorite Madden ever, but I can't help but think where NFL 2k would be at this point if those games were still being made.
                    The comment was specifically about what Czar has gone through to get this blog posted, especially in the last 48 hours.

                    For anyone paying attention, it’s obviously been a little interesting.

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                    • BA2929
                      The Designated Hitter
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3342

                      #70
                      Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

                      Great job as usual, Czar!


                      Some quick things I loved from that quarter gameplay video:


                      The overall responsiveness from the CPU players when plays are being called. They instantly move!



                      CPU Melo popping that 3 at the 1:20 mark.


                      That spacing at 1:33!


                      The ball movement by the CPU numerous time to get an open shot, especially at around 2:20ish. The CPU instantly calling plays is a huge boost to replayability. When you've seen the CPU stand around for 10 seconds on the shot clock once, you've seen it a thousand times.



                      CPU Melo playing Melos version of tough D at 6:50


                      I'd go into more detail but I'm sure most of it has already been said. The AI looks to be getting so much better year after year, and as an offline only guy it warms my heart to see actual basketball being played by the CPU during a game.
                      "Baseball is the coolest sport because, at any moment, the catcher can stop the game and go tell the pitcher a secret" - Rob Fee

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                      • LorenzoDC
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1857

                        #71
                        Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog with Plenty of Gameplay Videos (via @Da_Czar)

                        Czar, how do the procedures interact with or take account for players' IQ levels?



                        With these hot reads available, in procedures and even series, do "dumb" players more often miss their reads and smarter players clown the defense?

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                        • bball_1523
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 5344

                          #72
                          Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog with Plenty of Gameplay Videos (via @Da_Czar)

                          Does anyone know why arenas are so dark? I wish they were brighter so we can make out the arenas. I feel it takes away from the atmosphere of a real arena.

                          Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

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                          • Da_Czar
                            NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5408

                            #73
                            Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

                            Originally posted by Baebae32
                            Good deal Czar. It'll get ironed out eventually.

                            One more question if you don't mind. There was mention of new tendencies mentioned in the blog. So is it safe to assume that there were no new additions?
                            Yes, no new tendencies this year. Still digesting and adjusting to the bunch we added last year? (that was last year wasn't it?) Always listening for suggestions but no active plans for additions just yet. That is actually a great question because if we only added one or two I probably wouldn't mention it in a blog.
                            Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                            • RyanFitzmagic
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1959

                              #74
                              Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog - Now with videos

                              Originally posted by Da_Czar
                              Yes, no new tendencies this year. Still digesting and adjusting to the bunch we added last year? (that was last year wasn't it?) Always listening for suggestions but no active plans for additions just yet. That is actually a great question because if we only added one or two I probably wouldn't mention it in a blog.
                              Is there any chance of a spot-up/cut tendency for players off the ball, that doesn't just affect fast breaks?

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                              • Da_Czar
                                NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 5408

                                #75
                                Re: NBA 2K19 Gameplay Blog with Plenty of Gameplay Videos (via @Da_Czar)

                                Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                                Czar, how do the procedures interact with or take account for players' IQ levels?



                                With these hot reads available, in procedures and even series, do "dumb" players more often miss their reads and smarter players clown the defense?
                                As a year one feature we didn't have the time to get to that depth where we now limit what is possible to a given players IQ. Until I got all the systems in I probably wouldn't be able to fully take that step. At that point, you're doing just as much work to limit the system as you are to build it so it becomes one of those diminishing returns situations where you double the work but the effect is essentially worse.

                                That is a really cool feature that is always on the wish list but I can almost always find something with more impact to do with those same resources.

                                That also makes troubling shooting an issue, even more, difficult to decipher what the heck is actually going on.

                                The procedures are built like a puzzle. and I have links to links to links as it is. But there is always the chance we invent some tech that makes that easier so I won't say never but at this stage it is unlikely.
                                Last edited by Da_Czar; 09-05-2018, 01:44 PM.
                                Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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