ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

[awg811]

ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

Hands up defense now makes you jump and contest without you wanting to jump to contest. This was a dumb idea, now my guy jumps at random times. Needs reverted.
The Devs said if you jump on a pump fake you will be punished. This is NOT the case, at least in the paint. I get people to jump with pump fakes around the rim and then I go up, no foul, they can double jump before I’m able to go up on them, or I’ll miss the shot. No penalty at all.
Steal spam is out of control, not just on ball but all over the place. Believe me, I’m all for steals on ball, in passing lanes, and in the paint, but it’s ridiculous right now. The whole team just continuously spams the steal button, runs around spamming steal so anytime theres any pass at all, it’s tipped and then two or three people chase the ball continuously spam steal so that when and if the offensive player gets the ball they will fumble it, turn it over, or try to pass to someone else and it gets tipped again, and spam, spam, spam.
This has to be addressed. Each steal attempt should drain stamina and increase each time you spam it and bad or repeated steal attempts should lower your grade.
There’s a ton of issues and things that 2k said would be in the game that aren’t.
It’s terrible because this game has the potential to be the best 2k of all time.
Let’s hope that what they said would be in the game is added and they fix the few, but extreme issues in the game.
As it is, no matter what your build, everyone’s a lockdown defender.


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[Iasounis]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

Someone earlier proposed something like if you keep pressing steal each subsequent attempt after the initial would result in less of a successful steal and more chance of a foul.

I ain't tryna get 2k to patch the game completely, just fine-tune a few things.

Dudes are really out here successfully getting steals by teleporting 5 feet on lunges with their back turned to the ball..it ain't even natural

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And, not to forget, many have no 'lockdown' in them.

[wisdom]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

Oh then there's this..

https://youtu.be/TkVY7K8J2vQ

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& people still say that was a "skill gap game" smh.....all they want is cheese continuous to grow...

[ph33]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

So for more examples of steal spamming that shouldn't be rewarded:

-I fake passed, saw someone lunge, passed immediately...except they can double lunge and still intercept it anyway. Why did I get penalized for properly utilizing a fake pass and why does he get rewarded for playing Mario Party?

-I got a few steals last game where I didn't even press steal. I just stood there and the game gave it to me. I did recover properly but I was just trying to close back out on a shooter, not really going for the steal. Our team had 15 steals.

-I have mixed feelings about this, but I wonder if it's passing vision that's too low or something. There are times where you see the path the ball SHOULD take to the recipient, but the game decides the animation where a defender lunges perfectly to intercept it takes priority.

I'm all for rewarding smart interceptions and deflections, but right now, the window to pull off the steal is too wide, and the user is allowed to reset this window over and over again.

[Iasounis]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

So for more examples of steal spamming that shouldn't be rewarded:

-I fake passed, saw someone lunge, passed immediately...except they can double lunge and still intercept it anyway. Why did I get penalized for properly utilizing a fake pass and why does he get rewarded for playing Mario Party?

-I got a few steals last game where I didn't even press steal. I just stood there and the game gave it to me. I did recover properly but I was just trying to close back out on a shooter, not really going for the steal. Our team had 15 steals.

-I have mixed feelings about this, but I wonder if it's passing vision that's too low or something. There are times where you see the path the ball SHOULD take to the recipient, but the game decides the animation where a defender lunges perfectly to intercept it takes priority.

I'm all for rewarding smart interceptions and deflections, but right now, the window to pull off the steal is too wide, and the user is allowed to reset this window over and over again.

Well explained.

[Caelumfang]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

Well, just remember, like Czar said, you’re asking to give up ball tangibility if you want passing lanes patched. So please don’t come back on here whining about the ball going through your player if/when a patch hits.

[Keith01]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

To be honest bro, if I made a finisher I'd probably be pretty mad too.

But I try not to delete players cuz you never know when they patch the game and suddenly they might be op.

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Lol hear ya, but I was done with that build. I didn't want to spend one more second wasting VC on it.

[Keith01]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

This basically. Sure, increase reach-in fouls, but leave passing lanes alone. I’m not up for another year of terrible and wrong animations on jumping passes, and passes flying right by me when I KNOW I timed it.

Yo there's a difference between timing it and having godlike sticky hands. Shouldn't ratings come into play just a little bit? As is, we got bigs and sharps acting like they're Deion Sanders.

[Keith01]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

I’ve barely played online but offline I have no problems finishing on my 6’11 Rebounding Athletic Finisher.

Thats cuz it's offline

[Keith01]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

Okay, so since I hear so many people whining about the pass lane steals, what exactly are your solutions?

1.) For players to get screwed by wonky animations that throw them AWAY from the pass?

2.) For players to get screwed by terrible AI logic that makes their player attempt wrong steal/tip animations?

3.) For the game to ONCE AGAIN lose ball tangibility?

Because you all do realize one or more of these will be the 'solution' in a patch, right?

Not that difficult really, just lessen the stickyness of every non-defensive build's hands. Hands rating right now is like a 99 for everyone. They don't have to go in a completely opposite direction. The defense (lateral movement, shot contesting) is actually nice in 2k19. 2K just went overboard on off-ball passing lane steals.

[Caelumfang]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

Not that difficult really, just lessen the stickyness of every non-defensive build's hands. Hands rating right now is like a 99 for everyone. They don't have to go in a completely opposite direction. The defense (lateral movement, shot contesting) is actually nice in 2k19. 2K just went overboard on off-ball passing lane steals.

So, your solution is to make players act like they’ve never caught a ball in their life, which means it’ll either constantly get tipped out of bounds, or it’ll bounce off them and go right back to the offense (because loose balls in 2k usually fall in the offense’s favor).

[awg811]

ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

Well, just remember, like Czar said, you’re asking to give up ball tangibility if you want passing lanes patched. So please don’t come back on here whining about the ball going through your player if/when a patch hits.

So it’s either overpowered steals or no steals? We cant have a balanced system, it’s either one or the other?
How about having ratings and build play a part in the whole steal thing?
Right now, everyone has lockdown in their build. Putting defense in your build was a waste of time!


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[Caelumfang]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

So it’s either overpowered steals or no steals? We cant have a balanced system, it’s either one or the other?
How about having ratings and build play a part in the whole steal thing?
Right now, everyone has lockdown in their build. Putting defense in your build was a waste of time!


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...you do realize that having ratings affect being able to jump passing lanes means the ball has to become intangible to people with lower ratings, right? That, and/or they have to be affected by awkward and terrible animations that throws them away from the ball.

[EddieK76]

Re: ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

1.) Tone down interceptions by either applying proper passing passing (touch pass with a little lob to get over the defenders head or bullet pass or using a different hand to pass) . I've gotten a few steals on interceptions where I literally pressed nothing on my controller. One I was looking at my phone cause I was getting so sick of the spamming. I'm constantly seeing interceptions where the defender even has his head turned to the ball and then somehow still intercepts that. That should not happen.

2.) Stop the spamming of steal button. Everyone now knows that it's either a steal or a foul and in park there is no penalty for fouls and it's made games against those teams unplayable. We played a lockdown yesterday who just ran around everywhere the ball was spamming along with his teammate...13 fouls later and 7 steals later the game was over...Even when you thought you had an angle on a pass the lockdown somehow had go go gadget arms and glue and stole the ball.

[ph33]

ProAm/JRC/Park Patch Thread

Well, just remember, like Czar said, you’re asking to give up ball tangibility if you want passing lanes patched. So please don’t come back on here whining about the ball going through your player if/when a patch hits.

You're really a piece of work huh?

Sounds like someone who is a spammer himself. How about you don't come here whining when that patch hits and you can't spam anymore.

Oh, and I've already seen the ball go through my player mysteriously, so that's moot.