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  • franzis
    MVP
    • Mar 2008
    • 1451

    #16
    Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

    Originally posted by 3ShowTime2
    I think its not only 2k's failure. People dont defend online. I had some very good games recently where I had teammates that actually knew how to defend the perimeter zigzag/screen bull****. Opponents were quitting left and right as soon as they noticed that. With my big (6'11 C, rebounding rim protector) im matched up a lot against stretch 4's due to my height. I love to play defense, and about 2/4 opponents leave in the 2nd q because they face competition.


    Im not saying that the high 3p% isnt a problem, but another problem is that people simply dont defend or dont use the tools (= defensive archetypes) that 2k gives us to combat that.


    I agree and that's why I don't complain about open shots got using any kind of screen.
    That's on the lack of communication on defense.

    Still it makes no sense that people can get greens shooting from waaaaay downtown while dribbling the ball just after mid-court or after catching the ball.

    In any case, 3s success CANNOT be above 80% unless you are a pure sharp on takeover.

    Based on my career I also noticed that they changed the shot contest logic which triggers less frequently than in 2k18, making life even easier to shooters.

    But I don't agree that you should be able to play decent/good defense only with defensive archetypes. Otherwise, 3s should be hit only by sharpshooters, layups only by slashers, etc.
    Last edited by franzis; 10-09-2018, 07:26 AM.

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    • Hardaway1
      Rookie
      • Nov 2007
      • 48

      #17
      Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

      I'm all for a skill gap, i'm all for having to adjust to the changes of the game, i'm all for taking a month or two to adjust, i'm all for making passes more difficult, etc. etc.

      What I'm not for is watching a team of five people swipe up and down at the air in hopes that I make a pass in their direction and this actually being an effective form of defense.

      What I'm not for is mistiming a steal attempt in the passing lane and remaining in EXCELLENT defensive position regardless..

      What I'm not for is a lightly contested 3 to be a more efficient shot than an open lay up

      What I'm not for is smart basketball not being rewarded and dumb, senseless spamming of X and three's being the best way to play this game.

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      • shayellis
        Rookie
        • Jul 2010
        • 371

        #18
        Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

        Originally posted by Thrustie
        And I gotta disagree on stealing. People are just hammering steal and being rewarded. I admit my second pass on this possession probably deserved to be picked off. The first, I’m convinced homie just hit square the second I passed since I wasn’t even making an ambitious pass. Then I spammed it to rip him back. The last guy spams it twice and still gets rewarded.

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        • Thrustie
          Pro
          • Sep 2016
          • 764

          #19
          Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

          Originally posted by shayellis
          This is pure depressing comedy
          You’re just dizzy from the screen spinning, fam. It’ll pass.

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          • franzis
            MVP
            • Mar 2008
            • 1451

            #20
            Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

            However it really scares me that there was a moment during 2k19 development when some 2k executive/dev said "mmm... that's a good representation of 5-on-5 basketball! Let's move the game to gold stage"

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            • awg811
              Pro
              • Jul 2009
              • 768

              #21
              Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

              Originally posted by Thrustie
              And I gotta disagree on stealing. People are just hammering steal and being rewarded. I admit my second pass on this possession probably deserved to be picked off. The first, I’m convinced homie just hit square the second I passed since I wasn’t even making an ambitious pass. Then I spammed it to rip him back. The last guy spams it twice and still gets rewarded.

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              Bro, 4 steals in 13 seconds!
              People really try to act like steals aren’t an issue?


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              • Korrupted
                Pro
                • Nov 2015
                • 917

                #22
                Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

                Originally posted by awg811
                Bro, 4 steals in 13 seconds!
                People really try to act like steals aren’t an issue?


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                I can't even front, those players were in position to make a play on those passes.

                On another note those people who constantly spam to get a steal or try to anticipate a pass Stamina should be hit quite hard for doing so. For each reach you should lose stamina. Defenders are able to recover too quickly after a bad gamble or constantly trying to pick someone. I thought 2k did a decent job of this in 2k17 (I think) but there are no penalties for it this year.

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                • ph33
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 3261

                  #23
                  Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

                  Originally posted by Korrupted
                  I can't even front, those players were in position to make a play on those passes.

                  On another note those people who constantly spam to get a steal or try to anticipate a pass Stamina should be hit quite hard for doing so. For each reach you should lose stamina. Defenders are able to recover too quickly after a bad gamble or constantly trying to pick someone. I thought 2k did a decent job of this in 2k17 (I think) but there are no penalties for it this year.
                  I guess you can say they were in position, but I think too often, the pass trajectory doesn't make any sense.

                  If it's a lowly rated passer doing that, I can see why that'd be intercepted. But I think a playmaker type would put a better arc over the defender, but too often, I see it just go right to the defender regardless of the archetype.

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                  • ryocoola31
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 135

                    #24
                    Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

                    Originally posted by Goffs
                    How about no badges for the rec....

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                    Yeah. I didn't grind my badges for them not work on one of main modes in myplayer.

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                    • Korrupted
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 917

                      #25
                      Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

                      Originally posted by ph33
                      I guess you can say they were in position, but I think too often, the pass trajectory doesn't make any sense.

                      If it's a lowly rated passer doing that, I can see why that'd be intercepted. But I think a playmaker type would put a better arc over the defender, but too often, I see it just go right to the defender regardless of the archetype.
                      I agree 100% bro. More Arch or better placement on passes for those with higher passer ratings make sense. Unfortunately everybody passes the same on here. A lot of things need to be tweaked.

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                      • Rockie_Fresh88
                        Lockdown Defender
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 9621

                        #26
                        Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

                        Just had a guy on my friends list who joined my park . I had an 80% percentage in park and pro am in 18.

                        This year I’m only 10-10 in park because I don’t play it seriously .

                        Do you know this guy refused to play with me lol saying my win percentage lol. Wtf is wrong with this community .
                        #1 Laker fan
                        First Team Defense !!!

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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
                          Lockdown Defender
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 9621

                          #27
                          Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

                          On another note Rec is a buggy mess . So many glitches and connection errors . Basic stuff like wrong color jerseys and inability to exit .

                          It’s like it wasn’t tested at all.
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                          First Team Defense !!!

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                          • Goffs
                            New Ork Giants
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 12278

                            #28
                            Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

                            Originally posted by ryocoola31
                            Yeah. I didn't grind my badges for them not work on one of main modes in myplayer.

                            Sent from my SM-J727U using Tapatalk
                            That's the idea if you want badges go play that cesspool they call the park this year.

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                            • Thrustie
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 764

                              #29
                              Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

                              Originally posted by Korrupted
                              I can't even front, those players were in position to make a play on those passes.

                              On another note those people who constantly spam to get a steal or try to anticipate a pass Stamina should be hit quite hard for doing so. For each reach you should lose stamina. Defenders are able to recover too quickly after a bad gamble or constantly trying to pick someone. I thought 2k did a decent job of this in 2k17 (I think) but there are no penalties for it this year.
                              On the last steal, the guy’s back was to the passer and he pressed steal twice - the first time with no penalty. He didn’t actually anticipate the pass, he was just spamming the button.

                              On the first steal, sure the guy was in position. It was a very odd time and place to be trying to pick off a pass though, especially considering I was more or less passing it laterally to one of the guards. He didn’t actually anticipate where I was passing it to. He likely just knew I was going to pass the ball soon and hit square when he saw my animation start. What’s bred this culture is the knowledge that there’s no penalty for being incorrect.

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                              • Erithtotl
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 679

                                #30
                                Re: Park/Rec Center Gameplay Fixes

                                Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
                                On another note Rec is a buggy mess . So many glitches and connection errors . Basic stuff like wrong color jerseys and inability to exit .

                                It’s like it wasn’t tested at all.
                                The wrong color jersey thing is still happening. I can't believe they haven't fixed this yet!

                                Just happened to me a couple days ago. At least 3 times, I was guarding a stretch and my team got the rebound so I started leaking on the break, only to then realize, no, it was the other team's glass cleaner, in our jersey, who then kicked it out for a 3 from my man. So frustrating. The game's been out for a month can they can't fix this basic error?

                                Also, I am pretty sure not EVERYONE necessarily sees the wrong jersey. I was definitely playing once and people were on the mic saying how crazy it was a guy was in the wrong jersey, but I saw the correct one.

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