NBA 2K19 Roster Update (10-30)

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Re: NBA 2K19 Roster Update (10-30)

I think the 2k roster team is limited by OVR. OVR is the bane of any good roster. Why? Because it should be meaningless. Being an athletic freak doesn't make you a better basketball player than Kyle Korver.

But the problem is EVERYTHING is tied to OVER. FA logic, trade logic, contract negotiations, and most of all PR hype. Players talking about it on twitter, articles detailing leaks of who has the highest OVRs. It's marketing. So as long as OVR is required to work transactions, rotations, contracts, etc. AND is a marketing gimmick, then it will be king.

If OVR is king, ratings need to be manipulated. It's why role players on legends teams like Steve Kerr have ridiculous OVRs. It's why athletic skills are out of whack for 3 and D types like Korver. They have to bump up their athletic ratings to bump up their OVRs so they get the contracts and the minutes.

Reality is there should be MORE separation in ratings. Having 90% of the roster between a 70 and 85 is silly. And it's only gotten worse over the years. Is it any wonder a big can stay in front of smaller players? Is it any wonder superstars don't dominate in played games like they should? Part of the reason is inflated attributes to pump OVR. But doing that increases speed, acceleration, vertical, etc. and impacts game play.

And after all that, the sad thing is there is no answer to fix it. The marketing aspect could go away (it won't because NBA players tweeting about the game is good for business) and not impact gameplay. But what do you use to set contract values, trade value, minutes, etc? As the developers are already dealing with the monumental task of trying to create smarter AI players at a time the game is changing fundamentally (Teams not using mid range or going after offensive rebounds, switching everything, etc.) and trying to balance distinctly different modes (park, myplayer, myteam, franchise) and consumer expectations, the last thing they have time for is to mess around with a new, horribly complex way to value players in every facet of the games.

They already inflate ratings with intangibles. All we ask for is for the practical ratings to be correct. Player athleticism ratings shouldn't be flexible things that change with each update. Wall is always going to be 90+ in speed ratings for the foreseeable future. Good defenders are good defenders for years at a time. Its only things like shooting that are more variable and need to be tuned month to month.

How can a player be a top + defender at the PG position for a year and be a C+ grade defender in 2k (Vanvleet). Or have the highest average speed on the Raptors but be rated one of the slowest players on the team. Its like you need to be on ESPN highlights or have a column written about you before 2k will change your ratings.

[Kushmir]

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Embiid has literally had 30-11 in every game except one lol...(he's averaging 28-12 and 2 blocks) I thought for sure he was on the short list for guys going up.

Stauff probably overlooked him. I'm sure he'll get to him on the next update.

[jk31]

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Embiid has literally had 30-11 in every game except one lol...(he's averaging 28-12 and 2 blocks) I thought for sure he was on the short list for guys going up.

Stauff probably overlooked him. I'm sure he'll get to him on the next update.

and which ratings exactly do you want to be raised? just because a Player is playing Well doesnt mean an increase is necessary.

btw myles Turner needs a complete overhaul... his defense has massively improved since last season. He got much stronger and is able to hold his Position inside and is making way less mistakes on defense. on the other Hand bis rebounding ratings are Way too high. He just is Not a Good rebounder. Also his shot (neither mid range, not 3pt) is falling right now.
He also is much faster than 2k wants him to be. when running in the break, He can keep up with many smaller players.

[MoneyOvaHuds]

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Blakeney NEEDS A RATINGS BOOST

[jeebs9]

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Blakeney NEEDS A RATINGS BOOST

Oh yeah say that now lol

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[Kushmir]

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and which ratings exactly do you want to be raised? just because a Player is playing Well doesnt mean an increase is necessary.

You're right...good players don't go up for playing well--that validates their rating. IMO the criteria for raising a player's stats is they're exceeding career numbers...like Lebron last year. Embiid's rebounding/FTs/assists are all career highs and he's scoring about 6 more ppg than last year, leads the NBA in post-up scoring and is shooting lights out from mid-range (48% from 10-16ft and 57% from 16-3pt line--also better than his career numbers which were already outstanding) for some perspective on how good that is? I can cherrypick Dirk's best shooting years ever: 51% from 10-16 (2003) and 51% from 16-23 (2013) and Embiid compares.

So IMO there's a pretty convincing argument for raising both his Close and Mid-Range shooting among other things.

[Barncore]

Re: NBA 2K19 Roster Update (10-30)

At least some consistency would be nice, for example
John Henson is shooting 38.5% on 1.7 attempts per game and his Open 3pt rating went from what it was previously ( presumably 25 as last season was the only season so far where he even managed 0.1 attempts per game) and its now a 73.

LeBron James is shooting 24.4% 3PT on 5.9 attempts, of the 54 players who have attempted at least 5 a game he is 52nd and yet he has an Open 3pt rating of 82!?, some other players from that group 3pt% this season and ratings
Zach LaVine 82, 38.6%
Goran Dragic 82, 37.8%
Blake Griffin 83, 48.4%
Donovan Mitchell 80, 33.3%
Victor Oladipo 83, 43.2%
Khris Middleton 84, 54.9% (He's number 1 for 3pt% by players attemping 5+ 3's per game and he has an 84??)
Reggie Bullock 84, 25.9% (Seriously? He has the same rating as Middleton who's shooting 29% better from 3?
Danny Green 84, 46.8%
Lonzo Ball 78, 36.1%

How does 2K determine ratings, do they use a RNG?

Do you really want 2K to base their ratings on such a small sample size? We are like 7-8 games into the season. I'd be frustrated if 2K based their ratings on short term streaks rather than their proven ability

[TheFinalEvent97]

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Do you really want 2K to base their ratings on such a small sample size? We are like 7-8 games into the season. I'd be frustrated if 2K based their ratings on short term streaks rather than their proven ability

I should of put it better, i don't want LeBron to have a 70 3pt rating or Middleton a 99 but alot of these ratings are the same as before the update, i personally would have put the extreme cases up or down a few points. I.E Middleton to ~87 and LeBron to ~79.

[Kushmir]

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Do you really want 2K to base their ratings on such a small sample size? We are like 7-8 games into the season. I'd be frustrated if 2K based their ratings on short term streaks rather than their proven ability

Agree with this....that weekly ratings mess is what ruined Madden. Always thought you did updates once per month....was pretty shocked to see an update this early.

[pjt8405]

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Agree with this....that weekly ratings mess is what ruined Madden. Always thought you did updates once per month....was pretty shocked to see an update this early.

Updates to Close/Mid/3Pt Shooting (Open/Contested/Off Dribble), Speed, Acceleration & Lateral Quickness, Off/Def Reb & Vertical are needed for the entire league. Many players speed attributes haven’t been touched in a few years. The shooting ratings need adjusted at the one month mark (Nov 16) as that would be enough of a sample size to adjust from. All players need to be touched & not just the key players on teams. No reason players like Allonzo Trier (Knicks) shouldn’t get as much detailed attention as a guy like James Harden. Guys such as Myles Turner (Reb Ratings inflated) are often overlooked in the specific areas such as rebounding while often times the “Intangibles” rating is what is used to modify overall. Attention to all 450+ players is needed as speed ratings, Rebounding, Shot Ratings are the most vital to performance in gameplay. Tendencies need adjustment too but that’s a whole other conversation.

[Jaifer]

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‘Bron needs his fade back

D-Rose needs longer locs

Dame needs his full sleeve

CJ needs a cleaner high-top fade

STILL haven’t updated Covington’s hair

Clarkson needs his tattoos

Lonzo is far too built and could be slimmed down a bit

D-Wade still has his rookie year player model?

So many other scans. It’s truly wild.


How can we help, 2k? I’m sure some folks in here are down to work OT in order to make sure the player likeness is where it should be

[pjt8405]

Re: NBA 2K19 Roster Update (10-30)

‘Bron needs his fade back

D-Rose needs longer locs

Dame needs his full sleeve

CJ needs a cleaner high-top fade

STILL haven’t updated Covington’s hair

Clarkson needs his tattoos

Lonzo is far too built and could be slimmed down a bit

D-Wade still has his rookie year player model?

So many other scans. It’s truly wild.


How can we help, 2k? I’m sure some folks in here are down to work OT in order to make sure the player likeness is where it should be

These go in the ART Feedback thread

[DreamAgain]

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2k is so inconsistent with their **** ratings.

Gallinari is completely destroying it this season but can't crack an 80. Meanwhile Hayward is completely ****ting the bed and is still close to a 90.

It doesn't even make sense.

[MoneyOvaHuds]

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Why is manu still a FA?

[keshunleon]

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Why is manu still a FA?

I was coming here just too post this. Manu and David West are still free agents, both retired before the start of season.