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  • aimlessgun
    Rookie
    • Aug 2013
    • 160

    #16
    Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

    Originally posted by CaseIH

    But gameplay wise, CPU controlled teams, would be trying to get shot at the rim, which would make for too many PIP in games played, and not enough 3pt attempts by the CPU.
    For some reason I thought shot tendency just affected whether they would take the shot if they were in that position, not whether they would actively work to try to get that shot. So like someone isn't going to just run at the basket and ignore a 3pt play call because they have 99 shot inside tendency.

    However I have noticed that teams are not shooting as many 3's as I think they should be (like 25 a game only on a team that black box sims 35 a game), so maybe it is causing problems.

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    • Baebae32
      Pro
      • Nov 2015
      • 880

      #17
      Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

      Originally posted by aimlessgun
      For some reason I thought shot tendency just affected whether they would take the shot if they were in that position, not whether they would actively work to try to get that shot. So like someone isn't going to just run at the basket and ignore a 3pt play call because they have 99 shot inside tendency.

      However I have noticed that teams are not shooting as many 3's as I think they should be (like 25 a game only on a team that black box sims 35 a game), so maybe it is causing problems.
      The lack of 3 point attempts can be largely attributed to the lack of a drive and kick game by the AI

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      • CaseIH
        MVP
        • Sep 2013
        • 3945

        #18
        Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

        Originally posted by aimlessgun
        For some reason I thought shot tendency just affected whether they would take the shot if they were in that position, not whether they would actively work to try to get that shot. So like someone isn't going to just run at the basket and ignore a 3pt play call because they have 99 shot inside tendency.

        However I have noticed that teams are not shooting as many 3's as I think they should be (like 25 a game only on a team that black box sims 35 a game), so maybe it is causing problems.



        Yeah, Im not sure exactly how it works, I think to some extent, your right, that if they are in that position, they are more likely to shoot it, instead of passing it. But to some degree, I think it also effects how the CPU thought process plays out as well. Because if you adjust shot tendency sliders, a certain way, they are more likely going to try and look for a shot where the tendency to shoot is higher as the 1st option in the offense.



        I have also noticed the CPU with default settings isnt shooting nearly enough 3's, as whats happening IRL around the league. Because even using a high volume 3 shooting team like the Rockets, on default settings, you dont see them jacking up 3's.
        Maybe with DaCzar changing the playbook for the Rockets, may help this to some extent, but my guess is, they still wont shoot enough 3's, until you adjust shot tendency sliders.


        So when you get that 99 under the basket shot tendency glitch after yr 1 of MyLeague, and MyGM, that tendency will be so high, that will where the 1st option will be more times than not for the CPU controlled teams, IMO. I also think this glitch would likely effect not just less 3's taken in played games, but also the games that get simulated in ML and MyGM as well.


        Its ridiculous that this glitch hasnt been fixed yet, because you know darn well the devs know this is issue. IMO, I think they intentionally dont fix some things, to sucker people into buying next yrs game, and come next yr they may fix this glitch, but there will be some different glitch that breaks ML and/or MyGM, that they wont bother to fix. Its a never ending evil circle it seems,lol.
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        • eraserx13
          Rookie
          • Sep 2003
          • 265

          #19
          Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

          Originally posted by CaseIH
          Yeah, Im not sure exactly how it works, I think to some extent, your right, that if they are in that position, they are more likely to shoot it, instead of passing it. But to some degree, I think it also effects how the CPU thought process plays out as well. Because if you adjust shot tendency sliders, a certain way, they are more likely going to try and look for a shot where the tendency to shoot is higher as the 1st option in the offense.



          I have also noticed the CPU with default settings isnt shooting nearly enough 3's, as whats happening IRL around the league. Because even using a high volume 3 shooting team like the Rockets, on default settings, you dont see them jacking up 3's.
          Maybe with DaCzar changing the playbook for the Rockets, may help this to some extent, but my guess is, they still wont shoot enough 3's, until you adjust shot tendency sliders.


          So when you get that 99 under the basket shot tendency glitch after yr 1 of MyLeague, and MyGM, that tendency will be so high, that will where the 1st option will be more times than not for the CPU controlled teams, IMO. I also think this glitch would likely effect not just less 3's taken in played games, but also the games that get simulated in ML and MyGM as well.


          Its ridiculous that this glitch hasnt been fixed yet, because you know darn well the devs know this is issue. IMO, I think they intentionally dont fix some things, to sucker people into buying next yrs game, and come next yr they may fix this glitch, but there will be some different glitch that breaks ML and/or MyGM, that they wont bother to fix. Its a never ending evil circle it seems,lol.
          I tend to agree with you and it makes a difference in both gameplay and in sim. Why have it in the game when it doesn't make a difference, right?

          I imported Larry Bird in MyLeague to see how he would perform in today's NBA with the increased focus on 3 point shooting. So I swamped numbers from his mid-range tendencies which were really high with his 3 point shooting which were really low. With these new tendency ratings, I noticed that in sims he is shooting a lot of 3's in each game. Also, he is spotting up more outside the arc than before in played games. Maybe that is a function of the plays or the defense or whatever, but I believe that the tendencies are having an impact. I am not an expert but if that is the case, then this bug of 99 under the basket is troubling, especially for players whose strength is on the perimeter.

          It is complete BS that it is not fixed. 2k knows about it and it was included in the patch notes. But for whatever dumb arse reason, it is still not fixed. It is just sloppy software life cycle development if you ask me (I work in technology and am wondering who is testing this?) I quite playing Madden because I was sick and tired of EA not addressing gameplay issues that spans years. I haven't watched an NBA game in years but went with 2k because of its reputation that they have a deep immersive franchise mode. What good is it if they cannot get progression correct and without issue? It is to a point of ridiculousness!

          I am slowly losing faith in this company even though I really enjoy the game.

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          • dwayne12345
            MVP
            • Dec 2010
            • 1407

            #20
            Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

            99 Under basket shot tendency means exactly that. If a guy is under the hoop he will take a shot instead of pulling it out.


            So if Steve Nash were to get a rebound and be near the basket, he would take the shot regardless of if there was a 7 footer standing there.


            I'm wary of those who say it doesn't effect sim stats. It has to. It would effect FG%'s. A guy with 99 Shot Under Basket Tendency that also had a 60 Standing Layup rating and a 99 3 Point rating, would shoot a lower percentage than you would expect because he would be taking a lot of shots at the rim...

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            • KuruptOwnz
              Rookie
              • Dec 2008
              • 327

              #21
              Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

              Is this game breaking...?

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              • Comduklakis
                MVP
                • Oct 2005
                • 1887

                #22
                Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

                Originally posted by KuruptOwnz
                Is this game breaking...?
                Not if you take 30 minutes to write down the inside shot tendency of every FA, then after free agency take the time to go fix it from 99 if they stayed with their team.

                annoying but maybe an hour's worth of work each season in myleague
                http://www.operationsports.com/forum...y-cant-we.html

                http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ow-2012-a.html

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                • KuruptOwnz
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 327

                  #23
                  Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

                  Originally posted by Comduklakis
                  Not if you take 30 minutes to write down the inside shot tendency of every FA, then after free agency take the time to go fix it from 99 if they stayed with their team.

                  annoying but maybe an hour's worth of work each season in myleague
                  If you're playing MyGm, you're kinda screwed.

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                  • fzdoom
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 112

                    #24
                    Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

                    Im currently in the 3rd year (2020) of my MyLeague when I discovered this forum and this glitch and then confirmed it happened in my game. Before seeing this thread I didnt notice anything odd in the games I was playing. I played the Suns last night (now with knowledge of the glitch, obviously) and i can confirm that on three separate occasions Ayton grabbed an offensive rebound under the rim, head-faked, and then kicked the ball back out. So his 99 "under the basket shot" tendency didnt seem to have any impact at all. So imo, this glitch doesnt seem to either impact gameplay at all OR this specific tendency isnt important enough and the other offensive tendencies override it.

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                    • ChiefKeef300
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2018
                      • 227

                      #25
                      Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

                      Originally posted by Comduklakis
                      Not if you take 30 minutes to write down the inside shot tendency of every FA, then after free agency take the time to go fix it from 99 if they stayed with their team.

                      annoying but maybe an hour's worth of work each season in myleague
                      Does this only affect free agents?

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                      • fzdoom
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 112

                        #26
                        Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

                        I just want to take this opportunity to bump this up. 2 patch notes in a row said that this issue was fixed and its still not.

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                        • Hailemarriam
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2018
                          • 14

                          #27
                          Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

                          Crazy that this hasn’t been patched yet.

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                          • ChiefKeef300
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2018
                            • 227

                            #28
                            Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

                            I'm convinced this tendency really doesn't do anything in gameplay. In year 2020 and i see guys passing it out under the basket all the time maybe its just the sliders im using but from what i've seen it holds little to no effect.

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                            • projectedlight
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 10

                              #29
                              Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

                              Originally posted by ChiefKeef300
                              I'm convinced this tendency really doesn't do anything in gameplay. In year 2020 and i see guys passing it out under the basket all the time maybe its just the sliders im using but from what i've seen it holds little to no effect.
                              I play cpu vs cpu, and the difference is very noticeable. The offenses collapse, it becomes far more paint oriented. Also effects sim stats.

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                              • Junior Moe
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 3869

                                #30
                                Re: 99 Under The Basket Tendency Bug: What is your workaround?

                                I haven't noticed anything in my games played. I did notice though that Terry Rozier now has a 99. I just quick edited all the PGs down to 35, SG 45, SF 55, PF 60 and C 70.

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