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  • tru11
    MVP
    • Aug 2010
    • 1816

    #61
    Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

    If only where an open lay up as guaranteed as a contested 3.

    Id rather have an open lay up be as guaranteed as an open 3 but we all know that wont happen....

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    • Dedicated2389
      Rookie
      • Oct 2011
      • 45

      #62
      Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

      Originally posted by Housh123
      But the thing is no one really wants to shoot real life percentages on a video game


      If you’re open and shooting good shots you should be close to 70%. This isn’t real life it’s a video game.


      I think the problem is with contested shots being crazy OP


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      Been gone for the weekend, I only really post during downtime at work but this quote is one of my main points. I created MY player to play like MY player. Im not playing with Kyle Korver or Klay thompson in park, im playing with MY created player so idc what percentage they shoot in real life.

      I am mostly a PARK player and this is a PVP online video game. I want to be better than other online players im facing. If i take smart open shots with a PURE SHARPSHOOTER I don't expect anything less than 70% from 3 in a video game. 2k chose this acrecehtype system so they need a way to fix shot contest or defense. And no one is shooting 70% on contested jumpers unless its a pure stretch going against guards or there is a big size difference between you and the person guarding you.

      We aren't real NBA players, we are created 2k players. I understand people want "realism" but there has to be some type of balance. I don't want a force field making me miss open shots period. If im good enough to time my release in various situations (Off the catch, off the dribble, under pressure coming off off ball screens) AND they are open shots then I should be rewarded with a bucket.

      Lockdowns get thousands of steals and OP animations, Pure Post scores are basically unstoppable, Glass cleaners grab every board, Pure shot creators are offensive powerhouses.

      If your looking for "realism" then PURE builds should be removed completely cause they all do one thing TOO well. And as we can see that causes problems in the community.

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      • El_Poopador
        MVP
        • Oct 2013
        • 2624

        #63
        Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

        Originally posted by Dedicated2389
        Been gone for the weekend, I only really post during downtime at work but this quote is one of my main points. I created MY player to play like MY player. Im not playing with Kyle Korver or Klay thompson in park, im playing with MY created player so idc what percentage they shoot in real life.

        I am mostly a PARK player and this is a PVP online video game. I want to be better than other online players im facing. If i take smart open shots with a PURE SHARPSHOOTER I don't expect anything less than 70% from 3 in a video game. 2k chose this acrecehtype system so they need a way to fix shot contest or defense. And no one is shooting 70% on contested jumpers unless its a pure stretch going against guards or there is a big size difference between you and the person guarding you.

        We aren't real NBA players, we are created 2k players. I understand people want "realism" but there has to be some type of balance. I don't want a force field making me miss open shots period. If im good enough to time my release in various situations (Off the catch, off the dribble, under pressure coming off off ball screens) AND they are open shots then I should be rewarded with a bucket.

        Lockdowns get thousands of steals and OP animations, Pure Post scores are basically unstoppable, Glass cleaners grab every board, Pure shot creators are offensive powerhouses.

        If your looking for "realism" then PURE builds should be removed completely cause they all do one thing TOO well. And as we can see that causes problems in the community.
        Three point shooting is too high across the board. Sharps just take that to another level with the ridiculous badges they get.

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        • UnbelievablyRAW
          MVP
          • Sep 2011
          • 1245

          #64
          Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

          Reasoning of "its a video game" is why the series will continue to go down hill in quality. Watch top players play and it resembles nothing like the NBA. Literally just strafing behind a screen to trigger animation and jack up shots. Or take advantage of poor AI PnR D and pick and pop every possession. You'd think Curry could average 50 a game the way 2k allows poor rotation on defence.

          The game is pretty much only fun in Play Now Online in terms of H2H. Everything else is just a cheese fest. Already fell off MyTeam (due to the 5-out pick and pop then sprint away and do a fadeaway 3 that goes in 50% of the time because everyone is 95+ in 3 with all the badges) and Park/JRC in MyCareer looks like cancer.

          Doesn't matter how many freelances Czar puts in the game or all the fancy secondary and tertiary counters the offences are coded with when you can cheese all game with AI exploits

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          • ruxpinke
            Pro
            • Apr 2008
            • 908

            #65
            Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

            from a strictly Park/Rec perspective: been saying it for a while, but have kinda given up hope for any changes this year. The shooting, while OP, could work if they really punished zig zagging/overdribbling and or illegal screens.

            open catch and shoot can stay super deadly (70 percent plus), but the BS zig zagging behind screens is what drives me crazy.

            also the inbound needs to be addressed for park. Most times your reward for poking a ball loose is an inbound play where you get stuck behind your teammate or the inbound receiver. they need to fix this somehow.
            PSN: PrettyToney

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            • Jros22
              Rookie
              • Nov 2013
              • 479

              #66
              Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

              Pure sharpshooting PG with Klay's release at 79 OVR 95 3pt, i'm about to give him Derrick Rose base because the high jump allows the player to make more contested shots since the offensive player it's usually high above the defender and barely affected (i've been the victim of it).

              Im JRos_22
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              Last edited by Jros22; 12-03-2018, 12:03 PM. Reason: Spelling
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              • Dedicated2389
                Rookie
                • Oct 2011
                • 45

                #67
                Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                Originally posted by ruxpinke
                from a strictly Park/Rec perspective: been saying it for a while, but have kinda given up hope for any changes this year. The shooting, while OP, could work if they really punished zig zagging/overdribbling and or illegal screens.

                open catch and shoot can stay super deadly (70 percent plus), but the BS zig zagging behind screens is what drives me crazy.

                also the inbound needs to be addressed for park. Most times your reward for poking a ball loose is an inbound play where you get stuck behind your teammate or the inbound receiver. they need to fix this somehow.
                The inbound and screen issue I can definitely agree with. I played a squad last night who was literally pushing my player with no offensive fouls called once. And as a pure sharp the inbound plays are very easy to get open just by running around inbounder or standing right behind him. I think 2k fixing small things like that would help gameplay a lot especially in the park.

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                • Dedicated2389
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 45

                  #68
                  Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                  Originally posted by Jros22
                  Pure sharpshooting PG with Klay's release at 79 OVR 95 3pt, i'm about to give him Derrick Rose base because the high jump allows the player to make more contested shots since the offensive player it's usually high above the defender and barely affected (i've been the victim of it).

                  Im JRos_22
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                  Looks like you had a good game, any idea what archetype "LegendaryKraze" was, he shot 2-15 from 3.

                  If you remember that game was most of your shots "open"? IF you could guess, what percentage of your contested shots do you think go in?

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                  • El_Poopador
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 2624

                    #69
                    Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                    Originally posted by Dedicated2389
                    Looks like you had a good game, any idea what archetype "LegendaryKraze" was, he shot 2-15 from 3.

                    If you remember that game was most of your shots "open"? IF you could guess, what percentage of your contested shots do you think go in?
                    legendary_kaze is a shot creator.
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                    • youALREADYknow
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 3635

                      #70
                      Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                      Pure Sharps ARE overpowered, but it's because the shooting badges are overpowered and not because of their attribute builds. Any player with Gold/HoF Limitless Range and Deep Range Deadeye are going to be OP.

                      Even if you took the best shooters on the planet, they wouldn't be able to shoot 40% from the hash mark in game scenarios. If you look at the last 4 seasons of shot data, Steph is the best 28ft+ shooter in the league over that period at 39%. Others in the next tier are Gary Harris, Klay Thompson, Spencer Dinwiddie, Devin Booker, Kyle Korver, and J.J. Redick who are all between 35-39%.

                      Most great shooters are around 30% on heavily contested 3's as well. They fixed that a bit with shot contests, but screens can ruin any good defensive plan online. I'm guessing VC/2K know their target audience and made those badges more arcade than sim to keep MyCareer exciting for that crowd. It's just a bit disappointing that it impacts the offline and online PNO crowd as well.

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                      • Jros22
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 479

                        #71
                        Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                        Most of my shots were open and and no gold badges, silver deep range deadeye and silver limitless range but i don't have much success on contested shots.
                        Last edited by Jros22; 12-03-2018, 02:52 PM.
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                        • Thrustie
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 764

                          #72
                          Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)



                          As long as percentages like this are attainable, this game can never be balanced. I feel like some people just don’t get it. I could go 15/15 and dunk over 5 players on every possession and this guy would score the same amount in only 12 or 13 shots. Saying there’s no problem with shooting is just being willfully blind.

                          I’ve seen people saying that Sharps aren’t good at anything else so they need to shoot lights out. Come on man! This guy could literally never cross into the defensive half and still destroy his matchup.

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                          • splashmountain
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 809

                            #73
                            Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                            Originally posted by Jros22
                            Most of my shots were open and and no gold badges, silver deep range deadeye and silver limitless range but i don't have much success on contested shots.
                            are you arms short?

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                            • Jros22
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 479

                              #74
                              Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                              Originally posted by splashmountain
                              are you arms short?
                              Yeah my player is short thats why i wanted to try a jumpshot that gets high off the ground.
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                              • ILLSmak
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 2397

                                #75
                                Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                                Originally posted by mb625
                                because "wE nEeD a SkIlL gAp NoT rEaLiSm."

                                haha, late but, to me, skill gap is how you respond to realistic adversity. That's why people who can only play one (generally the best) archetype aren't great. That's why people who quit out or run against the corner of the screen when the game doesn't go their way aren't great.



                                Realistic sports gaming should be about overcoming adversity. Running in circles until you get open and firing up a three is not a lot of adversity. Finding a way to win when you shoot 3-13 on great looks, that's realism.


                                Esp when your 3rd bucket is the game winner. haha. Best feeling.



                                -Smak

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