NBA 2K19 Roster Update Details (1-10)

[jeebs9]

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How long does it take to add a new coach? Meaning Ryan Saunders. Waiting to start until he's added

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Has it been a week yet? Who was the assistant coach any way?

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[Mr.MeArgi]

Kevin Huerter from Atlanta, starting 5 in the last 2 Month,  Play a overly good defense, and offensiv  he is not negligible -  and rating its still 71 with the same singlevalue ratings.

[ksuttonjr76]

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Okay... This is some BS. How the hell Klay Thompson have a damn 94 3PT rating and EARNED a freaking HOF badge while shooting 36% for the season, while Bojan Bogdanovic is shooting 44% with 89 3PT rating?

It's time for a new roster editor. Damn Curry has a 99 3PT rating while shooting 44% although Bojan Bogdanovic has the same shooting percentage.

[ffaacc03]

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Okay... This is some BS. How the hell Klay Thompson have a damn 94 3PT rating and EARNED a freaking HOF badge while shooting 36% for the season, while Bojan Bogdanovic is shooting 44% with 89 3PT rating?

It's time for a new roster editor. Damn Curry has a 99 3PT rating while shooting 44% although Bojan Bogdanovic has the same shooting percentage.

Thompson, does not deserve the 94 rating (should be 85-86 going by 2Ks formula) and the badge could also be argued (thus I would leave at least as Gold as he is better than what his %s and numbers say among those with similar production, plus he is the emblematic figure of catch & shoot players). Then again, Bogda deserves the rating (going by 2Ks formula he should be 89-90,as he is), and Curry's rating could be slightly debatable. Going by 2Ks formula, Curry should be a 96-97.

As good as Bogda is, leaving aside grade difficulty of shots, Curry is shooting a similar % on almost 3 times the amount of attempts, so they should not be equal.

Having said this, we need more consistency when applying all ratings formulas (an usual 2K issue), more tendencies edits and to continue to receive playbooks edits to better portrait the teams authenticity on the court.

[Kushmir]

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Keep in mind guys like Curry (9 consecutive) and Klay (7 straight) have the ratings they do because of multiple years shooting 40% from three. Thats elite any way you slice it, a guy shooting better than Klay for what isn't even half of the season shouldn't all of a sudden have higher numbers than him.

Thats simply too small a sample size.

Curry is most likely gonna finish this year at 40+% from deep, which will make a whole decade...thats ridiculous.

[Bootzilla]

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"Torrey Craig defends his *** off across all three perimeter positions"- Zach Lowe ESPN

Hustle Rating in 2k...…… 35

[ksuttonjr76]

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Keep in mind guys like Curry (9 consecutive) and Klay (7 straight) have the ratings they do because of multiple years shooting 40% from three. Thats elite any way you slice it, a guy shooting better than Klay for what isn't even half of the season shouldn't all of a sudden have higher numbers than him.

Thats simply too small a sample size.

Curry is most likely gonna finish this year at 40+% from deep, which will make a whole decade...thats ridiculous.

Personally, I believe that once the season starts, historical data should go out the window. I'm willing to give a few "bonus" points for career averages, but their rating should mostly be based on the current season being played. Also, no CURRENT player should have any HOF badges.

Before anyone chime in, I'm not trying to hear that lame excuse "They're superstars and can't be stopped IRL, so the game should be the same way.".

[Real2KInsider]

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Also, no CURRENT player should have any HOF badges.

That's like saying Michael Jordan shouldn't have had any HoF badges when he was an active player.

Curry and Klay are top 5 shooters of all-time and that isn't remotely debatable.

[JoFri]

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2ks 3pt ratings are too high in General. the nbas average 3pt percentage is 35% this season. all pg, sg and sf have an average of 80 open 3 rating. a Player like Dennis Smith jr, who shoots 38% has an 80. that does Not correlate.

It doesnt matter. The cpu doesnt attempt that many 3s either


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[Kushmir]

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Personally, I believe that once the season starts, historical data should go out the window. I'm willing to give a few "bonus" points for career averages, but their rating should mostly be based on the current season being played. Also, no CURRENT player should have any HOF badges.

Before anyone chime in, I'm not trying to hear that lame excuse "They're superstars and can't be stopped IRL, so the game should be the same way.".

LOL...you're generally pretty even-keeled but that literally makes no sense. LIKE NONE. That data shows trends and is a great separator when you consider any kind of rating system with depth. By your rationale Barkley would have been rated higher than MJ in 1993 because of a really good year. [emoji849]

Why not take it a step further and rerate guys every day? [emoji23] [emoji23] The most accurate data is longitudinal, we should embrace that. Not rate Landy Shamet based on the smallest sample size where he hit 8 threes the other night. Ratings should reflect what a player does MOST often--not least. I could see if Klay/Steph were guys past their primes averaging 12ppg two years removed from their best production--but both guys are smack dab in the middle of their primes....there's no argument for comparing either guy to Bogdonavic or for ignoring years of data because its convenient for a player on my team's rating.....c'mon man. [emoji849]

Generally its a good idea to have someone impartial to rate players because fans do a horrible job and too often inflate a guys positives while ignoring his negatives. This is a perfect example of that. History didn't start yesterday...and it certainly doesn't restart every year. Your point about current players having HOF badges is a good one tho--and actually worth debating.

[BluFu]

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How is Tatum still at 85? lol

[jk31]

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It doesnt matter. The cpu doesnt attempt that many 3s either


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I am Part of an ongoing online dynasty League, so Yeah it does matter to Me. one of my key criteria in Signing players is their real life production, as i have to keep in mind what their rating will be in the roster Update from 2k at the Start of the New season. it's very Bad how often you find players that just receive wrong ratings in comparison to their Real life production.

[jk31]

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. By your rationale Barkley would have been rated higher than MJ in 1993 because of a really good year. [emoji849]

Uhm, yes? If Barkley did better Things in that specific year, than He should be Rated higher in a historic 1993 roster. i mean imagine simulating one season of myleague with a historic 1993 roster. you want players to Play like their real life counterpart. that means you want Barkley to perform better than MJ in that specific year, so He needs better ratings.

[Real2KInsider]

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Uhm, yes? If Barkley did better Things in that specific year, than He should be Rated higher in a historic 1993 roster.

The season isn't over yet. Season data is incomplete. Which means it's acceptable for last season's production to still merge in and smooth things out and prevent ridiculous outliers.

For example

Kyle Anderson (2019)
Inside: 80-119 (67%)
Close: 37-78 (47%)
Mid: 13-26 (50%)
3pt: 9-34 (27%)

Kyle Anderson (2018)
Inside: 125-179 (70%)
Close: 80-171 (47%)
Mid: 19-47 (40%)
3pt: 19-61 (31%)

Or how about this one

Omri Casspi (2019)
Inside: 41-51 (80%)
Close: 6-25 (24%)
Mid: 0-0
3pt: 10-29 (35%)

Omri Casspi (2018)
Inside: 74-105 (71%)
Close: 36-79 (46%)
Mid: 0-1 (0%)
3pt: 10-22 (46%)

The league is littered with these and it's not just shooting. Any counting stat has similar fluctuation. Bogdanovic for example has yet to block a shot this season (he blocked 8 last year). Is it time to give him a lower rating than J.J. Barea, who has blocked 1 shot this season? Or does Bogdanovic get the benefit of the doubt that he will actually record a few in the next 40 games?

Is that attribute as important as his 3pt shooting? No, of course not, but each of these attributes is a judgement call that a roster editor has to make, as sticking with pure stats for a small sample size is simply not an effective measurement tool.

(If someone DID apply all purely 2019 statistics to a roster, the results would be scoffed at. Nobody is interested in a roster where Donovan Mitchell has the same rating as Tim Hardaway Jr, Gary Harris, and Kent Bazemore).

i mean imagine simulating one season of myleague with a historic 1993 roster. you want players to Play like their real life counterpart. that means you want Barkley to perform better than MJ in that specific year, so He needs better ratings.

I'm just gonna say this isn't factually correct since tendencies and teammates obviously affect player production. Besides that point, Jordan lead the league in PER and Win Shares that year, which was his 7th straight season of doing so (a feat only otherwise accomplished by Wilt Chamberlain). Numbers don't care who the media voted for that season.

[Kushmir]

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Uhm, yes? If Barkley did better Things in that specific year, than He should be Rated higher in a historic 1993 roster. i mean imagine simulating one season of myleague with a historic 1993 roster. you want players to Play like their real life counterpart. that means you want Barkley to perform better than MJ in that specific year, so He needs better ratings.

That's just....wow. That's ridiculous on its face and you should be embarrassed to have typed that. You've got access to all this data that says player B had an outstanding year--Player A has met or exceeded that production 7yrs in a row and you wanna go with the thing that happens LEAST often? Thats hilarious man. This is exhibit A re: why very few people can rate players. [emoji23]

Here's how silly that is: Barry Sanders was a guaranteed 1500yds and 10TDs every year for a decade--his entire NFL career. Eric Pegram had one season of 1000+ yds (1185 in 1993). You're arguing he should have had better stats in Madden 94 than Sanders because he outgained him that year? Even though that was Barry's 5th straight season of 1100+? You're for real serious?

You're literally rewarding the thing that happens the least: James Harden's last ten games he's shot almost 41% from deep. Landy Shamet had a good night on the 8th where he hit 8 threes and shot 53%. He's a rookie but has a higher % than Harden on the season. You're making the argument his 3pt rating should be higher....with a straight face? [emoji23]

Sample size matters. And the larger period we can look at the better.