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  • jadert
    Rookie
    • Dec 2002
    • 234

    #16
    Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

    I know right now all of this seems crazy because 2K is successful with $60 pricepoint. But I've been around long enough to see trends. I remember buying physical copies of albums/tapes and CD's. Streaming music for a monthly fee or free seemed absurd years ago. But looking at trends, this is the direction of the video game industry. Don't get short sighted and think that because a $60 game is selling now, that it will ALWAYS be that way. The only constant is change. But the key is recognizing it early and using it to your advantage.

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    • ksuttonjr76
      All Star
      • Nov 2004
      • 8662

      #17
      Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

      Originally posted by jadert
      I know right now all of this seems crazy because 2K is successful with $60 pricepoint. But I've been around long enough to see trends. I remember buying physical copies of albums/tapes and CD's. Streaming music for a monthly fee or free seemed absurd years ago. But looking at trends, this is the direction of the video game industry. Don't get short sighted and think that because a $60 game is selling now, that it will ALWAYS be that way. The only constant is change. But the key is recognizing it early and using it to your advantage.
      Very true, very true. There's a CEO right now somewhere sweating bullets right now over making this decision.

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      • BA2929
        The Designated Hitter
        • Jul 2008
        • 3342

        #18
        Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

        Originally posted by ChiefKeef300
        Madden probably but not 2k



        No studio that pays to license the pro sports leagues are going free to play with their main sports title.



        That would be absolutely horrendous business and would probably get you fired for even mentioning it. If there's a CEO even thinking about making Madden, FIFA or 2k a F2P title, they're with another company that doesn't make those games because there's no way EA or Take Two is even thinking about it because it's absurd.
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        • Housh123
          Banned
          • Jan 2011
          • 1173

          #19
          Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

          So this would be a great fan idea but not great for 2k


          So many ppl that get 2k AUTOMATICALLY buy the version that comes with 200,000 VC.


          They’d lose money




          One thing 2k can do tho is make the preorder version come with enough VC to FULLY upgrade one guy. What they did this year was flat out predatory and disrespectful


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          • MrWrestling3
            MVP
            • May 2015
            • 1146

            #20
            Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

            Originally posted by jadert
            I know right now all of this seems crazy because 2K is successful with $60 pricepoint. But I've been around long enough to see trends. I remember buying physical copies of albums/tapes and CD's. Streaming music for a monthly fee or free seemed absurd years ago. But looking at trends, this is the direction of the video game industry. Don't get short sighted and think that because a $60 game is selling now, that it will ALWAYS be that way. The only constant is change. But the key is recognizing it early and using it to your advantage.
            You make a good point.Right now they are making a nice profit with the current model so I doubt it would change.That doesn't mean it will be that way forever; I think if at some point the sales see a huge sustained drop off for whatever reason, they would almost certainly at least consider a different business model such as F2P to try and get their market share back.
            Last edited by MrWrestling3; 03-02-2019, 11:43 AM.

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            • Real2KInsider
              MVP
              • Dec 2003
              • 4657

              #21
              Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

              MyTeam would work as a "Free-to-Play" because it's impossible to make any headway in that mode without dumping money into it.

              If treated as an actual CCG, users would be able to hold onto their collections from year-to-year (players would be released much differently than they are now).

              There's also a lot of untapped modes in MyTeam that have yet to be explored. Anyone whose ever done a CCG draft knows what I'm talking about. One addictive mode that encourages users to crack packs is all it'll take to break open the bank and make the model sustainable.

              The rest of the game (i.e. where the NBA license REALLY matters) doesn't make sense as a free-to-play because they aren't generating enough revenue in those modes (yes MyCareer is generating money, but is it actually offsetting development costs?)

              Reference point: I've played Magic: The Gathering (the world's longest running CCG) on/off for 25 years and they just made the jump to Online Free-to-Play.

              I'm sure the biggest obstacle for 2K doing this is they'd likely have to pay additional fees for what would amount to a separate game.
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              • DocHolliday
                Farewell and 'ado
                • Oct 2002
                • 4698

                #22
                Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

                Maybe a free version with just MyTeam, and if you want everything else it’s 60$.

                Could happen, like OP said, times are a changing in the video game biz, and it’s happening fast. Actvision, TTWO, and EA all shed between 30-50% of their value in like a month.

                Good topic.


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                • Kleinevos
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 599

                  #23
                  Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

                  I’m from belgium, the first country that banned lootboxes

                  My copy of 2k doesnt have an AH and i cant buy any mypacks.

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                  • Junior Moe
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 3869

                    #24
                    Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

                    Originally posted by Kleinevos
                    I’m from belgium, the first country that banned lootboxes

                    My copy of 2k doesnt have an AH and i cant buy any mypacks.
                    I would think something like that would preclude them from ever being free to play. That model relies heavily on microtransactions. Well, if the things those modes are based off are outlawed then they could lose everything. It makes even less sense. Especially when you consider the built in costs with the NBA and NBAPA.

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                    • isdatyt
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 672

                      #25
                      Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

                      There are some people who order a $100+ edition of this game every year before it even comes out and they still suck us dry with microtransactions. Without that upfront money, they'd start charging us VC to make substitutions.
                      "Blake Griffin is tired. Pay 1,000VC for Gatorade. Lmao. No way they move to free to play.

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                      • DC
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 17996

                        #26
                        Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

                        Stop giving them ideas.

                        Please. Stop.
                        Concrete evidence/videos please

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                        • jadert
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 234

                          #27
                          Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

                          We are assuming that a FREE to play model will generate less money than charging $60 per game.

                          Look into the future a little. As consumers get used to FREE to play games and eventually have the expectation of downloading titles without paying for them, the market will gradually shift.

                          Also, this model (for popular games) puts the game in most likely millions more hands. Who knows if doing it this way would be less profitable. We are assuming it. That's why people are saying they would be crazy to do so.

                          So yes, this is very profitable and working RIGHT NOW. But will the market be exactly the same 5 years from now, and with new consoles? We will see

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                          • ksuttonjr76
                            All Star
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 8662

                            #28
                            Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

                            Originally posted by jadert
                            We are assuming that a FREE to play model will generate less money than charging $60 per game.

                            Look into the future a little. As consumers get used to FREE to play games and eventually have the expectation of downloading titles without paying for them, the market will gradually shift.

                            Also, this model (for popular games) puts the game in most likely millions more hands. Who knows if doing it this way would be less profitable. We are assuming it. That's why people are saying they would be crazy to do so.

                            So yes, this is very profitable and working RIGHT NOW. But will the market be exactly the same 5 years from now, and with new consoles? We will see
                            I don't think no one is necessarily assuming that it won't be profitable. It's definitely uncharted territory when it comes to an existing IP. It really comes down to which publisher is willing to pull the trigger on one of their existing IPs to "test" the theory. It's a tough call, but it's why I mentioned NBA Live is the probably the best game to test the theory, because EA really doesn't have nothing to lose at this point when it comes to Live.

                            I guess 2K Sports could try it with a football game similar to All-Pro Football 2K8. Personally, I actually liked that game.

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                            • PippenFan
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2017
                              • 596

                              #29
                              Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

                              If anything NBA Live should consider doing this to get more attention for itself after working on making the game better. but they wont.

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                              • ksuttonjr76
                                All Star
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 8662

                                #30
                                Re: Should the 2K Series move to the FREE TO PLAY model?

                                Originally posted by PippenFan
                                If anything NBA Live should consider doing this to get more attention for itself after working on making the game better. but they wont.
                                Ironically, history has shown it could work. It's almost exactly what NBA/NFL 2K5 did when they sold their game for 19.99 on Day 1. To be fair, NBA/NFL 2K5 were SOLID games for the time. EA would only be able to pull this off if NBA Live 20 is game changer.

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