Basic Right Stick Defense Tutorial

[MrWrestling3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQqmTL4Tj-8

After the discussion on defending the drop step over in another thread, I realized not everyone may realize or remember the functions of the RS on defense;the video above covers it pretty in depth.

EDIT:After testing,it seems the "press B to bump/chuck" move no longer works as depicted in the video; I would disregard that section, the rest of the information in the video still works.

In addition to the material covered in the video I want to add a few things:

-In general, L2+RS into a moving player is how to trigger those little bump animations that forces a guy to pick up his dribble (that's how the CPU is stonewalling you on defense.... input reading+RS into you). L2+RS away/down on a shooter is basically a safe defense (think mini vertical contest)

-The system remains almost exactly the same in post,the only difference being you need to use both sticks into the post player when he tries to back down.

-It also works off ball to deny/bump offensive players that are in motion.

-RS also works when boxed out,move towards the open space/way you want to go is how to trigger those swim moves and chuck moves the CPU does to get to the ball.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

[alabamarob]

Re: Basic Right Stick Defense Tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQqmTL4Tj-8

After the discussion on defending the drop step over in another thread, I realized not everyone may realize or remember the functions of the RS on defense;the video above covers it pretty in depth.

In addition to the material covered in the video I want to add a few things:

-In general, L2+RS into a moving player is how to trigger those little bump animations that forces a guy to pick up his dribble (that's how the CPU is stonewalling you on defense.... input reading+RS into you). L2+RS away/down on a shooter is basically a safe defense (think mini vertical contest)

-The system remains almost exactly the same in post,the only difference being you need to use both sticks into the post player when he tries to back down.

-It also works off ball to deny/bump offensive players that are in motion.

-RS also works when boxed out,move towards the open space/way you want to go is how to trigger those swim moves and chuck moves the CPU does to get to the ball.

Except I think they took the B button chucking out of the game. I cant get my defenders to do it anymore.

[MrWrestling3]

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Except I think they took the B button chucking out of the game. I cant get my defenders to do it anymore.

I think you are right, I'll edit the OP.Thanks.

[WarMMA]

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Good tutorial. The only problem with right stick defense is it doesn't really work inside near the rim. Just play the AI on HOF, let it attack the paint and watch how right stick can't really stop anything anymore. Watch how it can just bump it's way inside and then throw up some lazy shot with your hands up all in their face and it still goes in majority of the time. This is why the CPU cheezes attacking the paint so much against the user. It pretty much put's you in a situation where you either allow them the easy basket or jump, with a high chance of fouling them.

[MrWrestling3]

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Good tutorial. The only problem with right stick defense is it doesn't really work inside near the rim. Just play the AI on HOF, let it attack the paint and watch how right stick can't really stop anything anymore. Watch how it can just bump it's way inside and then throw up some lazy shot with your hands up all in their face and it still goes in majority of the time. This is why the CPU cheezes attacking the paint so much against the user. It pretty much put's you in a situation where you either allow them the easy basket or jump, with a high chance of fouling them.

Are we talking post shots or inside shots?

[awg811]

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I literally just I had this dude pinned on the baseline and behind the backboard with his dribble picked up and I’m in hands up defense. There is nothing he can do except pass out.
However, 2k just slides me out of the way so he can get a half hook layup like I’m not even there.
I’m a 93 Overall 6’11 250 two way post scorer PF. 88 on strength, 80 shot contest, 78 block, and none of it matters against Mario Hezonja. SMH


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[MrWrestling3]

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I literally just I had this dude pinned on the baseline and behind the backboard with his dribble picked up and I’m in hands up defense. There is nothing he can do except pass out.
However, 2k just slides me out of the way so he can get a half hook layup like I’m not even there.
I’m a 93 Overall 6’11 250 two way post scorer PF. 88 on strength, 80 shot contest, 78 block, and none of it matters against Mario Hezonja. SMH


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Are you playing on HoF by any chance? That sounds like the cheese the CPU does when the sliders are out of whack.

[WarMMA]

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I literally just I had this dude pinned on the baseline and behind the backboard with his dribble picked up and I’m in hands up defense. There is nothing he can do except pass out.
However, 2k just slides me out of the way so he can get a half hook layup like I’m not even there.
I’m a 93 Overall 6’11 250 two way post scorer PF. 88 on strength, 80 shot contest, 78 block, and none of it matters against Mario Hezonja. SMH


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Yh this is the kind of thing i'm talking about. It's like your not even standing there. The game will just slide you over or straight up ignore your hands up defense and let them score the smothered inside shot. It's so annoying. Then if you jump, foul smh.

[awg811]

Basic Right Stick Defense Tutorial

Are you playing on HoF by any chance? That sounds like the cheese the CPU does when the sliders are out of whack.

Yes, it’s HOF, but I’ve seen it on every difficulty level, in the park, in pro am, and In the rec.
It’s not a difficulty level thing, it’s a 2k thing.


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[awg811]

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If I wasn’t an old man and had time to make YouTube videos, I would have hours of 15 second clips where this game does things that, in most cases, aren’t even possible.
There’s so many flaws, both large and small, in this game.
I’ve owned almost every console since console gaming was invented, including thousands of games, and I’ve never owned any other game that crashes as much as a 2k basketball game.
It’s not that I “want” to talk bad about the game, it’s that this game does so much wrong or bad, that it’s impossible to talk about 1 good in the game without having to dismiss 10 things that are bad.
Most of the people that work on NBA 2k seem like great people that want to have a great game, but because money is involved they can’t spend the time need to put out a good game because they have to add new selling points instead of fixing game breaking issues.


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[MrWrestling3]

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If I wasn’t an old man and had time to make YouTube videos, I would have hours of 15 second clips where this game does things that, in most cases, aren’t even possible.
There’s so many flaws, both large and small, in this game.
I’ve owned almost every console since console gaming was invented, including thousands of games, and I’ve never owned any other game that crashes as much as a 2k basketball game.
It’s not that I “want” to talk bad about the game, it’s that this game does so much wrong or bad, that it’s impossible to talk about 1 good in the game without having to dismiss 10 things that are bad.
Most of the people that work on NBA 2k seem like great people that want to have a great game, but because money is involved they can’t spend the time need to put out a good game because they have to add new selling points instead of fixing game breaking issues.


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I can agree with that, it's frustrating when it feels like you do everything right, then the game pulls out some type of odd wizardry that negates all the work you just did.It's especially bad when you see the exact same issue year after year.

[alabamarob]

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[MrWrestling3]

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Very nice! That's exactly what you're looking for...while it's not a guarantee,it definitely beats gets bullied all game.

[Nevertheles109]

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Great vid man.

Like AWG, I don't have much time on my schedule to compose clips to assist. However, I can assure you guys even on the highest level of HOF, you can put the clamps on the AI and even the drop step.

Another thing that I rarely hear getting mentioned is jumping straight up; if you press Y and pull the stick back at the same time, you can time and actually block the drop step shot attempt.

The last few posts mentioned getting pushed out of place -- you need to feather the LS gingerly along with the RS in the direction the offensive player is going to move. From there, once the offensive player is set and you have moved with him, immediately you need to move the RS towards the players chest (Camera relative works best for me... 2K Cam). This will ensure and engage you with the body of the offensive player.

When they go for their shot, you can aggressively try to block the shot, OR press Y and pull LS AWAY from the offensive player when they are going up (Timing is key). If you are the longer player, you'll either get a great block or a tremendous contest.

I will try to post more defensive videos. I feel like a lot of the complaints on this forum can be negated if some had a better grasp on the intricate nature of the controls.

[Marvlus91]

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this really helped me a lot, i’m forcing a lot more misses! thanks!

since i play with my controls on “absolute” it was kinda confusing, i didn’t know if right stick up was away from the defender or if right stick down was away from the defender. i’ve noticed when i point it up i get way better contest on shots.