Will NBA 2K20 fix defensive sliding?

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  • alabamarob
    MVP
    • Nov 2010
    • 3345

    #46
    Re: Will NBA 2K20 fix defensive sliding?

    Originally posted by lvnba
    I found the defensive system of NBA2k19 disgusting. Not only there was a lot of sliding, but you have all these USELESS big men in real life being able to stop quick guards with their hip or sliding.

    I'm talking PvP, not playings vs CPU. For example, I could use Kanter to stop players like Curry or Irving, when that would be murder every time in real life.

    I hope they can get this fixed without making offense OP as previous years with the "blow-by" animation.
    Yep. This is why on default sliders I said the defense is OP.
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    • WarMMA
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 4612

      #47
      Re: Will NBA 2K20 fix defensive sliding?

      Originally posted by lvnba
      I found the defensive system of NBA2k19 disgusting. Not only there was a lot of sliding, but you have all these USELESS big men in real life being able to stop quick guards with their hip or sliding.

      I'm talking PvP, not playings vs CPU. For example, I could use Kanter to stop players like Curry or Irving, when that would be murder every time in real life.

      I hope they can get this fixed without making offense OP as previous years with the "blow-by" animation.
      Yh this is something I hate seeing too. However, something that makes me at least hopeful was what we saw in that first bit of off screen "leaked" gameplay, where PG blew by Lebron. It seems they may be returning blow by's under more realistic and right circumstances this time around.

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      • Guard-ian
        Pro
        • Apr 2008
        • 612

        #48
        Re: Will NBA 2K20 fix defensive sliding?

        I agree with the sliding and the blow by stuff on defense, but to me, one of the big legacy issues still in 2k is that the difference between a good and bad defender is not as noticeable as it should be.

        Also mismatches in the half court must be much more exploitable, not only by strength/size but also by speed.

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        • derlaid
          Rookie
          • Oct 2015
          • 105

          #49
          Re: Will NBA 2K20 fix defensive sliding?

          Yeah a big problem this year is that big men aren't that much slower than guards allowing full court press and easy on-ball steals from players with great ball handling because of glitchy steal animations.

          Also it's very easy to swipe off-ball with no punishment and plenty of reward if you manage to guess the timing of a short pass.

          Lob passes also serve no purpose other than to get snatched out of the air by a defender.

          Basically the best kind of defence in this game is one where you don't actually don't stay with your man but just spam square.

          On the flip side, I think oops are too difficult to stop/too easy to hit, as much as I love using them in pro-am.

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          • born2playball
            Rookie
            • Dec 2011
            • 74

            #50
            Re: Will NBA 2K20 fix defensive sliding?

            I agree with you guys, the footplanting and responsiveness overall on defense need a lot of attention.

            Whether it's all the sliding on defense or the ability to shoot off the dribble without having to even plant your feet first, it's one of those things people have been complaining about for years on here in this game.

            I feel like on next gen 2k14 with the whole "Eco Motion" they were trying to address this issue and to a large extent it was much better initially. Unfortunetly over the years it has been largely forgotten about and neglected and we're back to where we were before with it.

            Basic physics and footplanting in a basketball game of all things, should be one of the core things that is done right.

            It's sad, but it looks like were gonna have to wait for a whole new console again for this to maybe get looked at and addressed again.

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            • zrohman
              Pro
              • Nov 2013
              • 834

              #51
              Re: Will NBA 2K20 fix defensive sliding?

              The defensive sliding obviously gets worse online. Most games I play online, I can't tell the difference between online and offline, unfortunately, 2k is not that type of game. Hopefully the servers improve

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              • Optimus James
                Rookie
                • Feb 2013
                • 393

                #52
                Re: Will NBA 2K20 fix defensive sliding?

                Originally posted by born2playball
                I agree with you guys, the footplanting and responsiveness overall on defense need a lot of attention.

                Whether it's all the sliding on defense or the ability to shoot off the dribble without having to even plant your feet first, it's one of those things people have been complaining about for years on here in this game.

                I feel like on next gen 2k14 with the whole "Eco Motion" they were trying to address this issue and to a large extent it was much better initially. Unfortunetly over the years it has been largely forgotten about and neglected and we're back to where we were before with it.

                Basic physics and footplanting in a basketball game of all things, should be one of the core things that is done right.

                It's sad, but it looks like were gonna have to wait for a whole new console again for this to maybe get looked at and addressed again.
                Exactly this.

                And not to go off-topic into offense, but everybody having the ability to catch bad passes like Randy Moss and shoot/finish all in one motion without any foot planting is another physics issue. Its like they just caved in to people complaining about bad passes being turnovers.

                No, they should be turnovers majority of the time like in previous editions.
                Instead everybody catch and shoot/finish like Klay Thompson and Anthony Davis.

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                • MarkWilliam
                  72-10
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 2325

                  #53
                  Re: Will NBA 2K20 fix defensive sliding?

                  The fact that they're now professing foot planting is in along with the emphasis on speed and first steps from the offensive player, I am cautiously optimistic about the ability to create space and take more pull up jumpers simply by forcing mismatches.

                  But this is highly dependent on the programming of the defender. If a defender is more planted, he will need to respect to possibility of a quicker player driving past him. As such, he should theoretically back up and allow the shot, hence pull up Js. Depending on the players of course....

                  But again, it is dependent on how the AI is programmed to react. I'd hate to see that defenders enter "sticky mode" to negate quickness.

                  .....cautiously optimistic.....

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                  • Vni
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 14833

                    #54
                    Re: Will NBA 2K20 fix defensive sliding?

                    Originally posted by MarkWilliam
                    The fact that they're now professing foot planting is in along with the emphasis on speed and first steps from the offensive player, I am cautiously optimistic about the ability to create space and take more pull up jumpers simply by forcing mismatches.

                    But this is highly dependent on the programming of the defender. If a defender is more planted, he will need to respect to possibility of a quicker player driving past him. As such, he should theoretically back up and allow the shot, hence pull up Js. Depending on the players of course....

                    But again, it is dependent on how the AI is programmed to react. I'd hate to see that defenders enter "sticky mode" to negate quickness.

                    .....cautiously optimistic.....

                    I'am excited about the improvements made to movements in general it's always been what's held the game back. But I think you shoudn't expect a revolution, more like small steps in the right direction.

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