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  • simbayless
    MVP
    • May 2011
    • 2009

    #1

    Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

    When will 2k finally put Authentic crowd Audio Atmosphere? Live animations was it's biggest flaws thru the years and 2k atmosphere is their flaws. I hope 2k will record every area crowd sounds especially the playoffs at least for the new next gen consoles. Live 10 did it and 2k just sold 12 million ,so no excuse this time around.
  • Goffs
    New Ork Giants
    • Feb 2003
    • 12278

    #2
    Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

    Ah yes...normally I would just necro bump 23's thread about sound but eh...I do like that they try to keep it authentic but something sounds off. The way NBA Live makes the organ sound like its part of the arena is well done.

    just open another tab and just give it a listen without watching....is it the ambiance? I dunno but 2k can't replicate the atmosphere for some reason. Granted 2k's arena bells and whistles for each arena is pretty on point BUT again sounding it like this seems to elude them.


    EDIT: It's the way the crowd transitions from defense to cheering is just flawless.
    Last edited by Goffs; 08-13-2019, 05:46 AM.

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    • Vni
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2011
      • 14831

      #3
      Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

      Lack of competition hurts when it comes to things like that.

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      • awg811
        Pro
        • Jul 2009
        • 768

        #4
        Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

        I don’t think people realize how much of an impact great atmosphere can have on a game.
        There’s was a Madden on the 3DO, really showing my age, that had the crowd and atmosphere of the game prefect for the time. Even though the gameplay wasn’t great, the atmosphere made that one of my favorite maddens of all time.
        A good atmosphere can change a bad game to good and a good game to great.
        There’s nothing like the immersion of a great atmosphere.


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        • wrestlinggod1
          MVP
          • Jan 2008
          • 2490

          #5
          Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

          Originally posted by Goffs
          Ah yes...normally I would just necro bump 23's thread about sound but eh...I do like that they try to keep it authentic but something sounds off. The way they make the organ sound like its part of the arena is well done.

          just open another tab and just give it a listen without watching....is it the ambiance? I dunno but 2k can't replicate the atmosphere for some reason. Granted 2k's arena bells and whistles for each arena is pretty on point BUT again sounding it like this seems to elude them.
          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SpFHUMNj_nc" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

          EDIT: It's the way the crowd transitions from defense to cheering is just flawless.
          Ignoring the commentary, you can't tell me that this doesn't sound like real life if you closed your eyes.
          #HeatNation
          #HeatLifer

          Go MIAMI Teams!!

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          • Klocker
            MVP
            • Jul 2003
            • 3239

            #6
            Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

            Yea Live craps all over the crowd atmosphere of 2k. In fact all EA sports games have fantastic crows sounds

            Please I hope they addressed it this year
            Last edited by Klocker; 08-12-2019, 10:02 PM.

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            • zrohman
              Pro
              • Nov 2013
              • 834

              #7
              Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

              Originally posted by Klocker
              Yea Live craps all over the crowd atmosphere of 2k. In fact all EA sports games have fantastic crows sounds

              Please I hope they addressed it this year
              For them to hear the crowd in Live 18 and not even address it in 2K19... But instead add dodgeball. Is incredible.

              It can't be that hard to record some extra crowd noise and up the noise. We've been complaining about this for years, I'm guessing they might have some legacy glitch that prevents some of this. I mean, think of the PA announcer glitch where they announce it is the opposite team's ball
              Last edited by zrohman; 08-13-2019, 10:28 AM.

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              • Klocker
                MVP
                • Jul 2003
                • 3239

                #8
                Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

                Originally posted by zrohman
                For them to hear the crowd in Live 18 and not even address it in 2K19... But instead add dodgeball. Is incredible.

                It can't be that hard to record some extra crowd noise and up the noise. We've been complaining about this for years, I'm guessing they might have some legacy glitch that prevents some of this. I mean, think of the PA announcer glitch where they announce it is thev opposite team's ball
                yeah I wear headphones when I play end in live or other EA games there's a Fidelity and an authenticity to the sound.

                not just the sound effects which include even more numerous and varied chants but a richness that feels like it fills the stadium whereas 2ks sound just feels like a generic roar with the same drum beat and chants over and over and the PA announcer is getting tired and worn out.

                I really do hope they addressed it made it more aurally pleasing and would not mind a new PA announcer at all

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                • simbayless
                  MVP
                  • May 2011
                  • 2009

                  #9
                  Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

                  Funny thing about this Mr wang introduce this in Live 10 (9yrs ago)

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                  • Goffs
                    New Ork Giants
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 12278

                    #10
                    Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

                    Originally posted by simbayless
                    Funny thing about this Mr wang introduce this in Live 10 (9yrs ago)
                    Yeah Mike is an awesome sound engineer /s

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                    • Fredette
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 305

                      #11
                      Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

                      Every year i hope they concentrate on details like atmosphere, crowd and overall presentation.it gets stale and boring in this area when buying every year NBA2k. improved atmosphere / presentation would add so much immersion and variety.

                      No news about this?

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                      • Goffs
                        New Ork Giants
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12278

                        #12
                        Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

                        Originally posted by Fredette
                        Every year i hope they concentrate on details like atmosphere, crowd and overall presentation.it gets stale and boring in this area when buying every year NBA2k. improved atmosphere / presentation would add so much immersion and variety.

                        No news about this?
                        If I recall I think there were only 2 blogs about sound. When Harlan joined the team and the infamous blog about going to every arena to capture authentic ball bounce....

                        I doubt they did anything this year either. Most likely just added more arena sounds. I just wish they made the crowd sound more organic and not sounding like a buzz.

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                        • SteveQ
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 411

                          #13
                          Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

                          I hope 2K improves a bit in this area (I think they partially have especially during a playoff game). What’s funny to me is back around Live 10 and 2K10 I would play 2K more often cause it was the better game, but hop on Live because they had better looking shoes at the time and better arenas and crowds. Don’t know if anyone remembers but the all star game that year was in cowboys stadium and Live had the rights so it was in the game, 2K had the all star game in American Airlines lol.

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                          • RunRickyRun24
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 384

                            #14
                            Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

                            Forget realistic sounds ... I just want the crowd to react correctly ... man this has never ever ever ever been right ever. It seems like the simplest logic to program I swear


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                            • GisherJohn24
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 4578

                              #15
                              Re: Authentic crowd atmosphere needs overhaul

                              Originally posted by awg811
                              I don’t think people realize how much of an impact great atmosphere can have on a game.
                              There’s was a Madden on the 3DO, really showing my age, that had the crowd and atmosphere of the game prefect for the time. Even though the gameplay wasn’t great, the atmosphere made that one of my favorite maddens of all time.
                              A good atmosphere can change a bad game to good and a good game to great.
                              There’s nothing like the immersion of a great atmosphere.


                              Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                              NBA 2K and honestly went down in this category too like you said, it's terrible. NBA 2k12 had authentic sounds for the different eras, not to mention you could do custom stadium sounds for all the venues, how do we honestly go backwards? I still say they lost focus, all sports developers have, they need to listen to the community, this has been complained about forever. Madden is suffering too, Presentation is just not important to them anymore, but obviously the community is still concerned about it not being addressed.

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