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  • CaseIH
    MVP
    • Sep 2013
    • 3945

    #16
    Re: Cpu not calling time outs when way behind ...

    Originally posted by GisherJohn24
    Uh oh cpu still barely calls timeouts. First quarter I’m up 22 to 3 and they never called a timeout in the quarter. They eventually called one time out in the 2nd, one in the 3rd and one in the 4th. This has been an ongoing issue... a bad one. I remember both 18 and 19 being like this and really want ever truly resolved...



    Yeah, Im not seeing the CPU call timeouts either, its very rare when they do. I had hoped this was something they fixed in NBA2k20, but nope, its still broken. I just played a close game, where it was tight thruout, and I had my timeouts set to auto as well and neither my team or the CPU called a timeout all game long. a Couple night ago, I beat the Wizards by like 43 points, and the Wizards called 1 timeout the entire game. Also I only play full games, 12 minute qtrs. Only 1 game, out of 15+ games have I seen a team call more than 1 timeout all game long.



    I just dont understand why the devs refuse to fix this issue every yr, Im not a game programmer, but I cant imagine it would be that dang hard to put timeout logic in the game. After all, there was a time many yrs ago, when they had it right, but the past few yrs, its been broken.
    Everyone who exalts themselves will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted- Luke14-11

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    • GisherJohn24
      MVP
      • Aug 2008
      • 4607

      #17
      Re: Cpu not calling time outs when way behind ...

      Originally posted by CaseIH
      Yeah, Im not seeing the CPU call timeouts either, its very rare when they do. I had hoped this was something they fixed in NBA2k20, but nope, its still broken. I just played a close game, where it was tight thruout, and I had my timeouts set to auto as well and neither my team or the CPU called a timeout all game long. a Couple night ago, I beat the Wizards by like 43 points, and the Wizards called 1 timeout the entire game. Also I only play full games, 12 minute qtrs. Only 1 game, out of 15+ games have I seen a team call more than 1 timeout all game long.



      I just dont understand why the devs refuse to fix this issue every yr, Im not a game programmer, but I cant imagine it would be that dang hard to put timeout logic in the game. After all, there was a time many yrs ago, when they had it right, but the past few yrs, its been broken.
      Did you notice this issue in 17 or 18? It was never an issue on 14, 15 or 16 for sure... And never an issue on previous gen either. I remember on the old gmes, they always used up nearly ever time out, especially during close games, but even when the cpu was up big, they always managed to use up 90% of their timeouts. Now I'd argue that they only use less than 40% of their time outs on a given game. I also wonder if this (glitch) as I call it, is determined by how long the quarters are?

      When I made my 9 min quarter game, that's when the cpu called a total of 2 time outs the whole game.

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      • iFnOtWhYnOt_
        Rookie
        • Oct 2018
        • 71

        #18
        Re: Cpu not calling time outs when way behind ...

        I was in MyLeague playing as the Wiz vs Rockets, they went up 13 - 2. I have manual settings for timeouts, fyi I play 12m quarters too, I did not call a timeout as I'm really slider testing. I then went on a 5 - 0 run to make it 13-7, and they called a timeout, 7:21 on the clock. I was shocked, I hit a 3, steal and layup.

        There are also times I don't see a timeout called late into 3rd and 4th quarter, unless there is a major run. So personally to me, I definitely see a change in timeouts, it's just not consistent. Last year, I've never seen a timeout called in what I assume the cpu thinks is a shift in momentum. I could go full 48m with the cpu not calling a single timeout.

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        • CaseIH
          MVP
          • Sep 2013
          • 3945

          #19
          Re: Cpu not calling time outs when way behind ...

          Originally posted by GisherJohn24
          Did you notice this issue in 17 or 18? It was never an issue on 14, 15 or 16 for sure... And never an issue on previous gen either. I remember on the old gmes, they always used up nearly ever time out, especially during close games, but even when the cpu was up big, they always managed to use up 90% of their timeouts. Now I'd argue that they only use less than 40% of their time outs on a given game. I also wonder if this (glitch) as I call it, is determined by how long the quarters are?

          When I made my 9 min quarter game, that's when the cpu called a total of 2 time outs the whole game.



          I cant remember exactly when the issue with a lack of timeouts started exactly, it may have been in 16. I dont think I remember it being a issue in 14 or 15, and it definitely wasnt a issue on old gen consoles.



          What I have been doing the last few yrs to counter this, is when I think the CPU should call a timeout, I will switch over and call it for them, and then switch my controller back to my team.

          I know this isnt a ideal way to have to play, but if they arent going to fix it, this is the only choice there is.
          Everyone who exalts themselves will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted- Luke14-11

          Favorite teams:
          MLB- Reds/ and whoever is playing the Cubs
          NBA- Pacers
          NFL- Dolphins & Colts

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          • jeremym480
            Speak it into existence
            • Oct 2008
            • 18198

            #20
            Re: Cpu not calling time outs when way behind ...

            Originally posted by CaseIH
            I cant remember exactly when the issue with a lack of timeouts started exactly, it may have been in 16. I dont think I remember it being a issue in 14 or 15, and it definitely wasnt a issue on old gen consoles.



            What I have been doing the last few yrs to counter this, is when I think the CPU should call a timeout, I will switch over and call it for them, and then switch my controller back to my team.

            I know this isnt a ideal way to have to play, but if they arent going to fix it, this is the only choice there is.

            I believe CPU timeouts became a problem once Advanced Rotations were introduced. In my 2k19 MyLeague, the CPU would call a TO once subs started getting ready to go in and would call them pretty much regardless of the score. I played some games outside of ML when the game first dropped and the CPU wouldn't call TO's nearly as much.
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            • CaseIH
              MVP
              • Sep 2013
              • 3945

              #21
              Re: Cpu not calling time outs when way behind ...

              Originally posted by jeremym480
              I believe CPU timeouts became a problem once Advanced Rotations were introduced. In my 2k19 MyLeague, the CPU would call a TO once subs started getting ready to go in and would call them pretty much regardless of the score. I played some games outside of ML when the game first dropped and the CPU wouldn't call TO's nearly as much.

              Advanced rotations have been there for a few yrs now, I forget when they introduced that, but now that I am thinking about it, I think that is when the lack of timeout issues by the CPU started.
              Now if you use advance rotations, the CPU will call timeouts, but the problem with using advanced rotations is the CPU manages fouls trouble even more poorly than it already does, because they will follow those minutes to a tee, and not pay any attention to how many fouls a player has. In past yrs using advanced rotations, you may see a player foul out before halftime.

              I havent tried advanced rotations this yr, but knowing how they do issues like this, I can about guarantee its still broken foul trouble logic using them. Its stuff liek this that pisses me off about these devs, instead of ignoring the issue, just be honest and say its a game engine issue, and we can find a fix, instead of just ignoring it every yr. I would have more respect for the company if they were more forthcoming on stuff like this. It may not even be the devs fault, they may have a gag order on them from the higher ups, to not talk about issues like they havent or cant fix, that I dont know.
              Everyone who exalts themselves will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted- Luke14-11

              Favorite teams:
              MLB- Reds/ and whoever is playing the Cubs
              NBA- Pacers
              NFL- Dolphins & Colts

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              • Hewitt
                Rookie
                • Dec 2020
                • 5

                #22
                Re: Cpu not calling time outs when way behind ...

                Yeah I'm having the same issue. It's driving me nuts because their players never get tired while mine do, even after I use up my own timeouts. I guess I need to mess with the CPU stamina sliders or something because none of my starters can even get to 30 minutes in a game due to getting so tired.

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                • dwayne12345
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1407

                  #23
                  Re: Cpu not calling time outs when way behind ...

                  Originally posted by jeremym480
                  I believe CPU timeouts became a problem once Advanced Rotations were introduced. In my 2k19 MyLeague, the CPU would call a TO once subs started getting ready to go in and would call them pretty much regardless of the score. I played some games outside of ML when the game first dropped and the CPU wouldn't call TO's nearly as much.

                  I've had this issue for years too. It's improved this year and I think I figured it out.

                  I've deduced that it is based on the CPU gameplan strategy. That being - if the right guy on your team gets hot, they will call a timeout, otherwise they wont. Or if you break their gameplan (whatever it may be) they'll call a timeout. Some coaches in the game truly call timeouts less than others.

                  However for some coaches just beating them by cheesing fast breaks and pick and rolls wont get them to call timeouts.


                  Try running plays every time down the floor or following the freelance sets

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